Only 25% percent of Black men over 25 hold a bachelors degrees

[King_Kamala61]

I would hope I feel that kind of pride, but im 50/50 in it. If I could just buy the degree for 5 figures, I would. On the other hand, I love the feeling of learning and applying it and seeing that email that I passed my course.

Im very matter of fact about me wanting the results and not caring for the grind, but there is a very good chance my ass gonna be blowing a tuition check at a restaurant after they call my name for graduation.

Lol. Yea man. It's bitter sweet and redundant depending your current skillset prior to college. But every little bit makes you look better compared to a whiteman/woman and immigrant. Remember that.

 

[Prodyson]

OK and??? plenty of black men own businesses with no degrees... it's like literally you both doing the same thing going to the same fukking goal...

The ability to be successful without a degree doesn’t negate the reality that you significantly improve your likelihood of success with a degree. While a degree isn’t the best path for a lot of people, it’s still the best path forward for most since it creates the most opportunities, if you approach it effectively.

The key is helping black people be strategic about obtaining a degree. Go to state colleges, use community colleges, better utilize grants and scholarships, etc. Get a useful degree and limit debt even it means getting a degree from a small local college instead spending ridiculous amounts of money on big name and private universities for useless degrees.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Yep. I don't think the Black populace understands how degrees work. This is why we not keen on college. I remember when I seen my Grandfather in 2011 right after I graduated he hugged me and the 1st thing he said was, "Where dat degree boy?" He held it in his hands for over 30mins and then stole it from me and I found it on his matle next to his GED and military awards. He was born in 1933 Jim Crow Louisiana. So he understood the power that paper.

We don't need no more trades, we need more black agricultural degrees, medical, educational, legal, history and fine art degree.

We done did all the hardworking jobs for years...leave that for the immigrants who don't geaux to college and brehs who exit out the prison system and don't wanna geaux to college.

I agree with your first part we definitely need more degreed black men and in mass. That includes more black men in the degree fields of Political Science, Law, Psychology, Medicine, Business, Art and History.

However I disagree with the bolded part. I do think trades will always need to be involved in some capacity. Whether that’s in advanced manufacturing, plumbing, Barbers, mechanics, etc those fields still need a healthy dosage of black men as well

 

[Peachstate]

This has been probably been pointed out already but the gap exists across all races in the US. It's probably more pronounced for us, but that's true of any stat for obvious reasons.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Great job ladies

Stop trolling.

This is not a gender war thread

 

[Luke Cage]

Lotta brehs in my freshman classes. but by senior year, i was usually one of about 3.
and i don't it was the curriculum they were struggling with. Seen alot breh talk about how the tuition was kicking their ass, and eventually just stopped seeing them altogether

 

[At30wecashout]

The black community needs to focus on income.

Obviously college statistically provides more income than other options but your sole purpose of going to college should be in a field that is going to generate income.

Nigerians and Indians have showed y’all the game forever now. Follow their path

Its more than income, tbh. Pay cats money but dont educate them on civics, long term investing, etc and you can have folks earning but still one hiccup away from financial ruin. Higher ed should aid in intellectual curiosity and focusing on more than just making cash. It doesnt matter if in clocking 200k but don’t understand inheritance, local politics and how it influences my quality of life or ability to earn in the first place. Endlessly hustling without knowing how to apply intelligence elsewhere doesnt help us long term.

 

[Maddmike]

I've been an electrician for 23 years and got my ba in human resources/MBA...my aim is to start a business in my trade and teach young brothers how to venture in getting thier journeymen license in electrical systems. With Alot of these trade jobs, they require that someone takes you under thier wing. These cacs try to gatekeep a lot of the game

 

[High Art]

The key is helping black people be strategic about obtaining a degree. Go to state colleges, use community colleges, better utilize grants and scholarships, etc. Get a useful degree and limit debt even it means getting a degree from a small local college instead spending ridiculous amounts of money on big name and private universities for useless degrees.

This is key. A lot of people don't understand how the system operates and how to use it to your advantage. Tell someone to use a combination of community college courses and 4 yr. courses to keep your GPA up, and they look incredulous. Tell them to do exam out of certain courses so they can gain prerequisites for higher level courses, take AP credits to do this as well, take community college courses to shorten the time they are in school and keep the costs down, be strategic in picking your major if going to graduate/post-undergrad school, they'll look at you like you've lost your mind. There's so many ways to use the system properly and too many aren't aware due to lack of guidance. I don't fault people but it is unfortunate.

 

[Uachet]

An education can drastically increase your earning potential. That does not have to be only received via a college campus though. There are other paths like Trade-schools and Apprenticeships. There are also jobs that pay in the 6 figure range that require you to be proficient in grade school mathematics up to Algebra. Not everyone is going to go college, and also not every college degree will garner you an income that is significantly higher than a Blue collar career. So a cost benefit analysis is perfectly fine when determining what you desire to do as your means of earning an income.

I am of the opinion that the most important thing for our children is to make sure they have the basics received from their grade school education mastered. Doing that insures that those various paths to earning a living wage are available to them. I see no problem with the differences in college degrees between Black women and Black men, as long as we recognize all of those paths are viable to making an income that allows you to live well and raise a family. So education is very important, but where you get said education (College or Hands on Training) is not as important as the actual act of acquiring the education.

 

[King_Kamala61]

I agree with your first part we definitely need more degreed black men and in mass. That includes more black men in the degree fields of Political Science, Law, Psychology, Medicine, Business, Art and History.

However I disagree with the bolded part. I do think trades will always need to be involved in some capacity. Whether that’s in advanced manufacturing, plumbing, Barbers, mechanics, etc those fields still need a healthy dosage of black men as well

That's a given. Not an absolute. Leave the trades for the prison brehs and those who come poor eduction structural homes. Those individual seem to fair well with those trades. But if you got a 2.6 GPA or better you need to be in college Moreno than getting a trade. Yes that a C+ avg but you have shown you can get grades somewhat, just gotta buckle down the C- and C students need to be in trades cause educational formatting isn't their thing.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

The Racial Gap in Educational Attainment in the United States


If we break the data down by gender, we find that 24.9 percent of African American men and 30.8 percent of African American women over the age of 25 had obtained at least a bachelor’s degree.

Some 1,591,000 Black women had earned a master’s degree but no higher degree. In 2021 there were 841,000 Black men who had earned a master’s degree but no higher degree.

Black women now hold a lead over Black men in professional fields such as law, medicine, dentistry, etc. In 2021, there were 125,000 Black men who had earned a professional degree compared to 139,000 Black women.




That is an abysmal stat


We need to really emphasize education in our community more and petition for laws that will make college education more obtainable for Black people especially Black men.

I'm part of the 25%

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

I think we need a balance of both.

By far the biggest issue is young black men doing nothing. Not going to school, not working in trades, not working in entry level jobs, just sitting around doing nothing. It's a huge problem.

I agree 100 percent with this. We’re producing way too many men without accomplishments who are broke and it’s leading to crazy radicalization

 

[Pirius Black]

Stop trolling.

This is not a gender war thread

The retort is that most of those degrees earned are in lower paying fields like the Humanities and less in STEM fields which pay more. Despite earning more degrees, they earn less and have heavier student debt loads. This is an interesting addendum in regards to the dating a Bus Driver as a Black professional woman. If the female professional is a public defender making 45-60k a year with high 5-6 figures in student debt, not that much of a flex to be looking down on the city busdriver pulling in the same or better with no debt.
I wish these conversations could be grounded in reality rather than gender ideology so that Black people could see that our shyt sucks on both sides instead of using our mutual misfortune to win gender war points. Black people are being lapped as a collective right now but its easier to try to bifurcate the community in the hopes of escaping it. But newsflash, there is no escaping the continuing failure of the Black Community through either passports, divestment, or whatever silly ass internet movement/podcast charlatans that assuages our failure by blaming it on the other gender. If the situation wasn't so serious, it would be hilarious!

 

[Voice of Reason]

The retort is that most of those degrees earned are in lower paying fields like the Humanities and less in STEM fields which pay more. Despite earning more degrees, they earn less and have heavier student debt loads. This is an interesting addendum in regards to the dating a Bus Driver as a Black professional woman. If the female professional is a public defender making 45-60k a year with high 5-6 figures in student debt, not that much of a flex to be looking down on the city busdriver pulling in the same or better with no debt.
I wish these conversations could be grounded in reality rather than gender ideology so that Black people could see that our shyt sucks on both sides instead of using our mutual misfortune to win gender war points. Black people are being lapped as a collective right now but its easier to try to bifurcate the community in the hopes of escaping it. But newsflash, there is no escaping the continuing failure of the Black Community through either passports, divestment, or whatever silly ass internet movement/podcast charlatans that assuages our failure by blaming it on the other gender. If the situation wasn't so serious, it would be hilarious!

Yep I made this thread to highlight how bad the situation is and as a wake up call.


We as Black Americans have a lot of forces against us.

We need to come up with solutions.