Only 25% percent of Black men over 25 hold a bachelors degrees

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Education is very important and plays a major role in uplifting disenfranchised people. But we have to be careful with the degree being a symbol of said knowledge. It is produced after a rigorous process of exploitative usury and indoctrination provided by the same people who made the world so bad that you need it so much to live decently.

I want to see black doctors like everyone else, but what I don’t want or care about is seeing another doctor, black or white, who does not care about the people he’s treating other than the check he gets. I want great black teachers for my kids, but we’re going to put them through that system and yank them back into the world 70k in debt then expect them to teach at the worst schools in the city while paying it back? That’s unreasonable.
 

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Absolutely, unfortunately. And yeah, mentoring is very important. I give my parents credit for exposing me to the idea of using long-term plans and essentially plotting out one's life, in regards to classes, degrees and all that visually so one could get an idea of what sort of obstacles one could face. Like someone planning a project, I had to come up with possible alternatives if this or that were to happen (if I got a racist teacher, I would already know the arbitration process and how to deal with that since it was already written down, if I wanted to take a class, I would know all the possible alternatives and paths to taking that class). Building on it over time made a huge difference as well. A lot of that information was from various people and put together over time, creating a roadmap/manual for my younger siblings, who skated through to their degrees and professions. Planning and mentors having a part in that is key.
Yep. Which is why we talented 10th folk gotta give back and put on. The whites, Asians and Jewish community build for their own, we gotta get our black elites ti build for their own too.
 

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Education is very important and plays a major role in uplifting disenfranchised people. But we have to be careful with the degree being a symbol of said knowledge. It is produced after a rigorous process of exploitative usury and indoctrination provided by the same people who made the world so bad that you need it so much to live decently.

I want to see black doctors like everyone else, but what I don’t want or care about is seeing another doctor, black or white, who does not care about the people he’s treating other than the check he gets. I want great black teachers for my kids, but we’re going to put them through that system and yank them back into the world 70k in debt then expect them to teach at the worst schools in the city while paying it back? That’s unreasonable.
100% true. I do believe people who generally care about their field will eventually make good money
 

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Yeah...I agree if I understood what this was...not everybody can get a degree and trade. This is correct. But you still should get educated atleast. So many community colleges out here giving away free education in 2023 and brehs and brehettes do not take advantage.

My professor Briscoe got his 2 yr degree at PGCC and then came to Morgan State for his BFA and then went to Howard for his MFA. It can be done but like I stated if no one exposes you to an education...do you really know it exist and the possibilities it can bring?

This is why the STEM only mantra that some of the dudes push on here makes no sense. We need more educated black people coming back into the community on a grassroots level on some, “Man, you can be an architect. You can write the great American novel. You can be the DuBois of our era,” tip. Collectively, we need more education in all fields: not less. Unless, you want all of your psychology, anthropology, history, etc., to be disseminated to you wholly by white people.

I’m the first in my family to do everything educationally: high school diploma, AA, bachelors, masters, and I’ll be the first one to get a PhD. I’m in a PhD program now at a top 15 school in the country—and I dropped out in the 11th grade. Much like your former professor, I started at a community college at 25. I faced every financial barrier and obstacle one could face, and undoubtedly, going to college is by huge fathoms the best decision I ever made. Yet, I would’ve been able to realize my academic potential way earlier if I actually knew anyone with an education in my family, neighborhood, or within close proximity (sans my public school teachers) that had an education.

I legit thought I had to get drafted to the NBA or bust to “make it.” You know what kind of flex it is to meet people from various walks of life, and they ask what you do? And you say, “Oh, I’m a doctoral student at ______.” And they Immediately hit the, “:picard: You must be a genius.” Not because I said something brilliant in that moment, but because of what I’m associated/affiliated with. In their mind, that connection speaks to my overall intellectual capability, capacity, and well roundedness. Little do they know, I’m even more thorough than they believed :wow:. That’s what Delaney was talking about.

There’s a reason why these Asian and White people have been killing themselves to get into the “top” schools, paying for wings and shyt, prepping for years to take a standardized test, and all those kids are not majoring in STEM; but y’all don’t hear me, though.
 
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So only 30% of black woman have a bachelors degree yet they were called the most educated group?

Also I don’t understand why men are the main focu group when it’s only 5% below black women.

You should know by now men don’t typically need just college to make money in this country. Women typically do.
I was thinking that too. A mere 5% difference, especially given how hard the criminal justice system goes to try and lock brehs up is interesting. And there is a strong presence of black males in trade schools (nearly 40.4%, compared to whites 50.9% and the rest being all other groups) so that alone accounts for some of these numbers as well.

American Trade School Diversity: Racial Demographics & Other Stats
 

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The black community needs to focus on income.

Obviously college statistically provides more income than other options but your sole purpose of going to college should be in a field that is going to generate income.

Nigerians and Indians have showed y’all the game forever now. Follow their path


Both groups homelands are in shambles a cherry picked group of immigrants are not an accurate representation.
 

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This is why the STEM only mantra that some of the dudes push on here makes no sense. We need more educated black people coming back into the community on a grassroots level on some, “Man, you can be an architect. You can write the great American novel. You can be the DuBois of our era,” tip. Collectively, we need more education in all fields: not less. Unless, you want all of your psychology, anthropology, history, etc., to be disseminated to you wholly by white people.

I’m the first in my family to do everything educationally: high school diploma, AA, bachelors, masters, and I’ll be the first one to get a PhD. I’m in a PhD program now at a top 15 school in the country—and I dropped out in the 11th grade. Much like your former professor, I started at a community college at 25. I faced every financial barrier and obstacle one could face, and undoubtedly, going to college is by huge fathoms the best decision I ever made. Yet, I would’ve been able to realize my academic potential way earlier if I actually knew anyone with an education in my family, neighborhood, or within close proximity (sans my public school teachers) that had an education.

I legit thought I had to get drafted to the NBA or bust to “make it.” You know what kind of flex it is to meet people from various walks of life, and they ask what you do? And you say, “Oh, I’m a doctoral student at ______.” And they Immediately hit the, “:picard: You must be a genius.” Not because I said something brilliant in that moment, but because of what I’m associated/affiliated with. In their mind, that connection speaks to my overall intellectually capability, capacity, and well roundedness. Little do they know, I’m even more thorough than they believed :wow:. That’s what Delaney was talking about.

There’s a reason why these Asian and White people have been killing themselves to get into the “top” schools, paying for wings and shyt, prepping for years to take a standardized test, and all those kids are not majoring in STEM; but y’all don’t hear me, though.
You got it out the mud-mud. 🙌🏿 Respect. Beacoup respect 👑let me polish that for you breh.

I spoke heavily in this thread about the power of educators and lawyers and judges and police chiefs. And I see the brehs here want everyone to be STEM.

But historian matter, school teachers matter, black agriculturists matter. You cannot create society that is totally dominant on tech, you will lose life sustaining skills. But they don't hear us breh.
 

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Education is very important and plays a major role in uplifting disenfranchised people. But we have to be careful with the degree being a symbol of said knowledge. It is produced after a rigorous process of exploitative usury and indoctrination provided by the same people who made the world so bad that you need it so much to live decently.

I want to see black doctors like everyone else, but what I don’t want or care about is seeing another doctor, black or white, who does not care about the people he’s treating other than the check he gets. I want great black teachers for my kids, but we’re going to put them through that system and yank them back into the world 70k in debt then expect them to teach at the worst schools in the city while paying it back? That’s unreasonable.
Yep. Like that thread of that one black female OB/gyn who killed some black woman's child during birth. You'd expect that kind of behavior from a white person, not your own.
 

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I was thinking that too. A mere 5% difference, especially given how hard the criminal justice system goes to try and lock brehs up is interesting. And there is a strong presence of black males in trade schools (nearly 40.4%, compared to whites 50.9% and the rest being all other groups) so that alone accounts for some of these numbers as well.

American Trade School Diversity: Racial Demographics & Other Stats
Exactly I use to audit carpentry unions in Long Island a few years ago. These carpenters were literally making more money than everyone in my office that was not a Partner. Smh
 

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I used to be a part of the degree having people that downplayed college. But we have to start advising young black men better.

Going to more affordable schools. Taking advantage of grants and scholarships. Working in college but at jobs and internships that are in their fields. But most importantly, reaching out for help whether in class or just emotionally.

Most things that you'll want to achieve will require the sacrifice. Perseverance. But you don't have to do it alone.
 

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"OGs who put us up on more G
How if I would have stayed in school for another grade
What I would have knew, would have got me more paid
But I ain't mad can't complain, blew like NASA
But I would have learned would have got me here faster."

One of my favorite Nas bars.
 

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Exactly I use to audit carpentry unions in Long Island a few years ago. These carpenters were literally making more money than everyone in my office that was not a Partner. Smh

88% of millionaires have a bachelors degree.


 
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