DaveyDave
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i don't agree with Ghostface, Lauren Hill or Wayne being on the list but other than that...not sure why anyone is outraged?
No Pac seems to be the main thing
i don't agree with Ghostface, Lauren Hill or Wayne being on the list but other than that...not sure why anyone is outraged?

most people in the business are white, a lot of them dont even fukk with hip hop like that and its sad. However, there are some that are actual fans and care about hip hop.
From my experience, i would have business meetings with people who worked in media, PR whether TV or print were corny hispter-ish who didnt care for the art.
They were so scared of real hip hop music. They got in position because of who they knew and were majoring in jornalism or media. They owned blogs or event spaces where i would try to host shows...
They only wanted to work with others yhat were like them. No lie, they looked and smelles dirty.
I can say with confidence, i only met 2 cool white people during my 5 years off putting out music. Everyone else either were scared of me or the people i was around.
Never will i forget cornballs at babygrande records that wouldnt allow me n my artist upstairs to the office lol
Blacks need ownership in hip hop. Even at the bottom of the totem pole, black people need to stop selling their art for pennies....not everyone needs to be a rapper or singer...i met at most 3 young black kids that were drawn to the business side of the music industry.
Crazy thing is, all crews that come out nowadays have inner city kids running behind the doors dealings but dont make it to the lyor cohens...
Those "hipster cacs" got let into the business by the old heads who sold out a long time ago. These are second and third generation cacs you're seeing now. They aren't going anywhere either. This is the result of casual relationships/friendships like the one Jay himself shared with the Jewish chick (who owned a record label herself) and being promised more access to the corporate side of things (commercialism without actually being in charge). The dudes you all revere on here are the ones who have ushered in the era you hate.
man... I'll never forget an experience I had in '04.
My distant cousin was an entertainment lawyer in Jersey. He invites me to come with him to see a hip hop show with Kiss, Fat Joe, Lloyd Banks and Lil Scrappy. Backstage.
A limo picks us up and there's 4 cacs sitting in the limo sipping champagne. And I'm like: 'wtf are these cacs doing here? aren't we going to the hip hop show?'.
Turns out they were label guys - 3 guys and 1 girl. It's me and my cousin - the only Black people in this limo.
We get backstage. Cacs are greeting the artists as they and their entourage come through metal detectors. Kiss, Lloyd and Scrappy had their lawyers with em. All cacs.
And I thought: 'wow, there are more white people in this hip hop shyt than I thought. and they're running shyt'
Great read. I always say that 1984 is the cut-off for experiencing hip hop in its prime. I'm biased to 84 being born that year, but honestly, I think shyt starts to change for kids born in '86 and onwards. Partly because they were teens when Ja Rule, Nelly and Eminem came through so pop rap is all they know.
Whereas I came into being a teen in '97. I was into pop rap like Mase (Mase could still spit though) and getting into Wu-tang, DMX, Lox, Gangstarr, etc because that was hot in 97/98.
truth.com unfortunately.

I had an indie label, put out a few projects and then tried to pull my friends into the game and show them how to make money in the game...sadly, i got burned out, i had the right vision but worked with people who feared success.
I had my own studio, production team, engineer and film crew.
One day i woke up after having a falling out with 2 artist for their lack of business acumen and decided to take a few years off.
Its been a year and im starting to get that itch to get back in the game...but this time ima start back again but do shows in nyc with artist such as fabolous, ghostface, dave east and so forth.
Im just stacking my money up and have 0 business partners.


:iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu::iseeu:Those "hipster cacs" got let into the business by the old heads who sold out a long time ago. These are second and third generation cacs you're seeing now. They aren't going anywhere either. This is the result of casual relationships/friendships like the one Jay himself shared with the Jewish chick (who owned a record label herself) and being promised more access to the corporate side of things (commercialism without actually being in charge). The dudes you all revere on here are the ones who have ushered in the era you hate.
so jay electronica dissing some white kids for being hipsters/part of the establishment while he paraded arolund WITH the establishmen knocking his heiress princess down to hoodrat status and getting denied entrance into clubs
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everything outta dudes mouth is pure filth
the true meaning of 'spark when you started, but now you just garbage'