I thought you also said there was no decline on Stankonia. If there’s no decline, I would take that to mean it was as good as the prior two albums.
OutKast vs. Mobb Deep | By The Numbers
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They leveled off with Stankonia. I consider Aquemini their peak at every level. With Stankonia, they grew artistically, but as MC's, they was no expansion on what they did on ATLiens and Aquemini.
DreadBrown
Feed the children
This thread is weird as fukk 
Outkast slander in here is ridiculous
Outkast slander in here is ridiculous
BmoreGorilla
Veteran
So Big was an industry placement too since he appeared on Martin and his shyt dropped around the same time as Kast right ? Method Man too? Why can’t yall just give the group props where they’re due? Kast was the first group from the south to be respected on a lyrical level. Up until then the south was known for its booty shaking music. Kast made it cool to be MCs. They got booed simply becuz they weren’t from NY and that’s it. Even Death Row got booed that night
You know damn well people weren’t talking about industry plants back in 95
DeuceCypherUno
knowledge God
and Andre couldn't? He did all that alone within a stretch of Aquemini
Not even you believe this. I'll say this though, i'm not calling HOE a bad album. I just don't think it compares to either artist's peak.
BmoreGorilla
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I like the Mobb more than Kast but I can’t agree at all that P had more range then Andre. That’s ridiculous and shows you really haven’t listened to Kast. I think P is better but no way he has more range
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
okay, youre just talking stupid now.
and I don't care about what your age was. you aint nobody oldhead nucca.
you based your entire outlook on your mom, who was clearly a casual listener. no disrespect.
now youre trying to base your argument on radio. another casual argument.
and it doesn't matter what outkast was rapping about. I'm talking about BASES. youre beating all around the bush. just acknowledge that you were out the loop & fallback.
and not that it matters but since you keep trying to lean on it, outkast rapped about that chit VAGUELY. you cant compare that to an 8ball & mjg. and more importantly, you cant compare the two groups in terms of sound, style, crossover appeal & label-backing.
just admit youre not up on what I'm talking about & keep pushin.
yea, they entered the pop realm with rosa parks & cemented it with stankonia.
but yall don't realize that they were in the r&b realm from day one.
chit their whole entrance into the game was r&b. they had no underground buzz or nothing, and came in under laface/arista.
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No shyt. I'm saying they both had those kind of moments, but Dre could never spit that street shyt like Prodigy. So who really has more range?
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
So Big was an industry placement too since he appeared on Martin and his shyt dropped around the same time as Kast right ? Method Man too? Why can’t yall just give the group props where they’re due? Kast was the first group from the south to be respected on a lyrical level. Up until then the south was known for its booty shaking music. Kast made it cool to be MCs. They got booed simply becuz they weren’t from NY and that’s it. Even Death Row got booed that night
You know damn well people weren’t talking about industry plants back in 95
lol @ "A industry placement". I'm starting to think youre kinda slow.
its all industry placement. just because you get put on a show, it doesn't mean youre the greatest thing going. biggie & method man were of course 2 of the biggest stars out, but that chit is industry placement too. just because they were on martin, it doesn't mean they were snoop dogg & dr dre.
whats funny is, outkast wasn't even the star rap cameo on the episode they appeared on. IT WAS COOLIO that made the biggest rap appearance that day. I don't see anybody vouching for him as a goat because of it. yall don't even mention coolio at all on this board. LOL. yall are so full of chit. no shame in reaching for your straws.
actually, "industry plants" is an old ass term, that's been around long before '95.
was I saying that people were running around using the term in hip-hop back then?? no I wasn't, so whats your point.
don't try to bring death row down with them. death row was all thru that show that night, winning numerous awards. they didn't get booed until they started talking slick on the mic.
did you actually watch the show, or are you just repeating media-generated internet rhetoric?
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Stop lying. I didn't switch up shyt.
They said a whole lot more than that. Dude was talking for at least 3 minutes and that's all you got from that?
The key points being that they wanted to appeal to a broader Atlanta crowd and they structured their music specifically to do that. It was more than just hip hop for them, which automatically makes their shyt alternative.They realized they were doing the exact same thing Dre was doing in Cali
So I guess Dr Dre was making alternative hip hop now?
First it was Tribe, now it's Dre. And you're pretending like you're not deflecting. Stay on topic, breh. We're talking about Outkast and only Outkast.
Feel free to go mute, though.
DeuceCypherUno
knowledge God
The difference is Andre shows his range waaaay more than P does.
And doesn't lose a step doing it.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
he showed more range but he didn't have the execution, which makes it all null & void.
DeuceCypherUno
knowledge God
didn't have the execution? LOL
A Life in the Day wasn't great?
Or his Royal Flush verse?
Or his What A Job verse?
Elevators?
Hootie Hoo?
Columbo
Lieutenant
Agreed, Outkast fell off and they had some weird garbage filler tracks on some of their album
Mobb Deep never fell off
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
elevators was cool.
some of this stuff was either meh or I don't really remember it, prolly because it was meh.