'Pac is a liar, Biggie setting him up is a lie' - DJ Clark Kent

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DJ Clark Kent has the comprehension skills of someone with a double digit IQ

It still cracks me up that just because Big didn’t return calls or visit Pac enough. That mean it was cool for Pac to accuse Big and dis him when Big never said nothing about him ever at that point. And 2pac was a direct reason of Big getting murdered. If Pac never accuses Big of that flagrant shyt Biggie would died of Diabetes at a old age instead of getting murdered at 24 coming from a industry party
That’s a stretch
 

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this whole thing started with pac spreading a rumour a lie an assumption that’s what everyone misses and try’s to spin it another way .... the debate here is was DJ Clark Kent correct wat he said in his interview n clearly he was ..... again most pacs own people don’t believe that bullshyt ..... zayd said clearly to me “ only pac knows why he went at big n them but I know they had nothing to do with quad he was going off the very little he did know n assuming things “ that right there is enough for me to know he ran with a lie ..... even later down the line he didn’t clear it up cause then the world would see the phony shyt he pulled he had to much ego for that so he ran with it ...
 

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Pac was jealous of the love and respect Biggie was getting. You can see it..He also had Suge in his ear because Death Row was no longer the only label making money.
They used the fact Big and Pac had crossed paths before as an excuse to go at Bad Boy.
 

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Pac was jealous of the love and respect Biggie was getting. You can see it..He also had Suge in his ear because Death Row was no longer the only label making money.
They used the fact Big and Pac had crossed paths before as an excuse to go at Bad Boy.
Pac had beef with Bad Boy while he was in jail before he was on Death Row. Puffy was talking shyt about him in Vibe magazine saying if you gon be a thug be a thug at all times. Suge didn't have to put a battery in his back to make him despise every nikka that was at Quad that night.
 

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All these pages later and can't nobody in here trying to rationalize Pac's behavior and duplicity can admit that the WHOLE thing woulda never played out how it did if he woulda never falsely implicated BIG in that Quad shyt.
Hence why I said what I said earlier in the thread

just accept that in threads like this Pac is a saint that can do no wrong and even if it is wrong...its justified because he’s Pac
 

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if only biggie told who was behind the set up and did something...

it would not even be a beef...


lol...
Right tho....Pac whole thing was if you know who behind it and won’t say nothing then you wit them....so you part of the set up too......just like the court will find a cat guilty by association......Pac was unreasonable I think the way he dealt with it.......but he wasn’t lying so much as he was drawing a line in the sand for big to assert his loyalty and big never went to pac side fully.....Pac was in jail reading art of war and shyt like that.....he went off the deep end, but he wasn’t lyin
 

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Right tho....Pac whole thing was if you know who behind it and won’t say nothing then you wit them....so you part of the set up too......just like the court will find a cat guilty by association......Pac was unreasonable I think the way he dealt with it.......but he wasn’t lying so much as he was drawing a line in the sand for big to assert his loyalty and big never went to pac side fully.....Pac was in jail reading art of war and shyt like that.....he went off the deep end, but he wasn’t lyin

Pac knew who set him up bro. It might not have been right away but shortly after things popped off Jimmy Henchman called Stretch & Maj’s mother house telling them the deal & if they (the Young Guns) were ready for war they’d need bread.
 

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Ignore Puff's man wolf killing Suge man Jake

Biggie ain't got nothing to do with this

Ignore Henchman getting pac robbed and shot

Biggie ain't got nothing to do with this

ignore Puff releasing who shot ya after the quad to ride the controversy

Biggie recorded that record way before the Quad incident. May had been the wrong time to drop it but no proof that it was dropped because of the Pac incident. Just another gangsta BIG record.

Ignore Biggie not going to see pac or contacting him in prison

If true...may be proof that BIG was a bad friend but it didn't lead to anything bad happening to Pac.

Ignore Biggie getting the dogg pound trailer shot up

Woulda happened to ANY rapper(s) in the history of Hip Hop music. [Insert any rapper] goes to another town to shoot a video dissing that town and that town's rappers, said rapper(s) is asking to get his assed fukked up, robbed and/or shot at. Please lie to us and say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Bad Boy if they went to LA and shot a video dissing LA and their rappers.

Ignore Puff hiring the south side crips and putting a bounty on death row chains

Biggie ain't got nothing to do with this.

Ignore Puff and Big going on a cali victory tour after Pac was killed

ONLY THING BIGGIE DID WRONG. BIG shoulda never been in LA after Pac got killed. Definitely shouldn't have been out there spitting that Long Kiss Good night verse dissing Pac. Really fukking bad judgement.

it was all Pac fault

Bingo.

Pac lying and inserting Biggie in that shyt is a big reason Biggie got killed.
 
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Pac knew who set him up bro. It might not have been right away but shortly after things popped off Jimmy Henchman called Stretch & Maj’s mother house telling them the deal & if they (the Young Guns) were ready for war they’d need bread.
He knew...but he also knew that puffy was cool wit jimmy, the two were together at the studio that night and that ain’t NO COINCIDENCE....and puffy in on it, biggie knew too in pacs mind. Remember Pac wanted biggie to leave bad boy and join him wit the thug life movement....Pac was tryin to steal big and I’m sure big played like it was possible at times....big felt too raw for puff RNB ways sometimes.....so when big didn’t tell Pac it was jimmy or puff or even elude to anybody it let Pac know the side Big was ridin on....and the rest is history. Puff allowed Pac set up, biggie likely didn’t know....but his dropping who shot ya and bein associated was enough
 

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What happened with Jake has NOTHING to do with Pac. He wasn't even on Death Row then.

No I'm not ignoring what Henchman did. Thats the point. HENCHMAN DID IT. WHY YOU GOING AT BIG???

Releasing Whotshotya at that time was a bad move, I will not deny that. But it was NOT made for Pac.

BIG tried to see Pac in the hospital and was turned away. You forgot?

DPG trailer incident and death row chains came AFTER Pac lied. Yeah, we dealing with street dudes or dudes hangin with street dudes, so once that fire was lit by PACS LIE, yeah plenty of bullshyt is gonna come after, back and forth . The DPG trialer incident came from BIG getting on the radio, which he did because DPG did that NY, NY song.

You made up that "cali victory tour" crap.

I'm sure you are smart enough to comprehend what I mean when I say the "START" of the bullshyt was. The FIRST WRONG that was committed. And that was Pac's lie. Period.


Rep. Didn't even see this.
 

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He knew...but he also knew that puffy was cool wit jimmy, the two were together at the studio that night and that ain’t NO COINCIDENCE....and puffy in on it, biggie knew too in pacs mind. Remember Pac wanted biggie to leave bad boy and join him wit the thug life movement....Pac was tryin to steal big and I’m sure big played like it was possible at times....big felt too raw for puff RNB ways sometimes.....so when big didn’t tell Pac it was jimmy or puff or even elude to anybody it let Pac know the side Big was ridin on....and the rest is history. Puff allowed Pac set up, biggie likely didn’t know....but his dropping who shot ya and bein associated was enough

Pac still was implicating Biggie LONG AFTER HE FOUND OUT THAT BIGGIE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUAD shyt. He just kept on going around telling the public that Biggie had something to do with that shyt and the really fukked up part is that a few people said he did that shyt for money.
 

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He knew...but he also knew that puffy was cool wit jimmy, the two were together at the studio that night and that ain’t NO COINCIDENCE....and puffy in on it, biggie knew too in pacs mind. Remember Pac wanted biggie to leave bad boy and join him wit the thug life movement....Pac was tryin to steal big and I’m sure big played like it was possible at times....big felt too raw for puff RNB ways sometimes.....so when big didn’t tell Pac it was jimmy or puff or even elude to anybody it let Pac know the side Big was ridin on....and the rest is history. Puff allowed Pac set up, biggie likely didn’t know....but his dropping who shot ya and bein associated was enough

Bro, Puff didn’t have anything to do with the Quad either. Pac knew this. None of them had any prior knowledge. This was Jimmy flexing on Pac. He kept pushing that lie for whatever reason
 

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Bro, Puff didn’t have anything to do with the Quad either. Pac knew this. None of them had any prior knowledge. This was Jimmy flexing on Pac. He kept pushing that lie for whatever reason
Fam...imagine it’s you in the situation tho, and you see footage of them two nikkas together standing outside the studio you just got shot in.....them two nikkas, together, whispering to one another....mtv caught that footage breh.....Pac had to of caught it too.....Pac ain’t dumb and came to the same conclusion any NIKKA would, friend of my enemy is my enemy
 

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Pac was jealous of the love and respect Biggie was getting. You can see it..He also had Suge in his ear because Death Row was no longer the only label making money.
They used the fact Big and Pac had crossed paths before as an excuse to go at Bad Boy.


they used the fact that jake was killed in atlanta....

so pac n suge had common foes..
 

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Fam...imagine it’s you in the situation tho, and you see footage of them two nikkas together standing outside the studio you just got shot in.....them two nikkas, together, whispering to one another....mtv caught that footage breh.....Pac had to of caught it too.....Pac ain’t dumb and came to the same conclusion any NIKKA would, friend of my enemy is my enemy
Pac was throwing the middle finger to them nikkas on the stretcher. He didn't have to see it on MTV. He was telling them nikkas they was in on it when he got off the elevator.
 
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