'Pac is a liar, Biggie setting him up is a lie' - DJ Clark Kent

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Let’s be honest it’s two friends caught up on opposite sides and we’re in a sense used as puppets and pawns ...

Pac took it more to the extreme publicly.. but BIG did his fare share also.

Big was affiliated with puff and hench so he couldn’t look like he’s choosing sides and go holla at Pac .,,he had a family to feed..

Pac got shot for not born taking no punk off and he’s in jail being told a certain narrative ...

I agree with most of this. I still don't know what this fare share y'all say Biggie did.
 

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People beef all day every day. Arguements & fist fights gonna happen. That's life. But the gunshots came from Bad Boy's camp.

I'd be fire hot at everybody over there too, especially when they're dissing on mixtapes but playing the innocent role on TV.

Bad Boy added fuel to a fire and everybody got burned.

So that's Puff's fault Suge was trying to bully him with a Blood gang banger & his security held him down?

Puff's a snake that I can stand & I can't believe I'm defending him but he did no wrong from all the accounts I heard out in ATL
 

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Yup. Pac was even lied to about the “Tut” being involved shyt. shyt could’ve been fully cleared up. But since nikkas wanna bring up E Money Bags. Pac tried to reach out to Biggie DIRECTLY. Biggie ignored his calls. And would never visit him. Why the fukk does it take the next man to clear UR name but u ain’t even man enough to answer a nikka calls?

Even if that's true (the phonecalls part) still don't make him responsible for anything that happened to Pac.
 

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Quad was setup by Badboy now?

Dogg Pound trailer got shot up cause them nikkas had the gall to make that video in NY. Same thing woulda happened to any out of towners in somebody home turf.

Jimmy Henchman/Haitian Jack are Bad Boy affiliates. You can see that even from the footage of the studio with them talking & Diddy's response in Vibe. Up until his last interview, Biggie and Bad Boy played up on the fact people thought they directly shot Pac.

Even Funkmaster Flex admits that Biggie was the one who basically got the Dogg Pound shot at via Hot 97. That's what really made it unsafe for people.

Bad Boy didn't directly shoot Pac but they were involved in Jake Robles being shot. You have to look at everything in proper context.
 

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stfu Pac didnt really turn up in Big until he got the video shoot shot up

You might wanna dab some sauce on Pac's nuts before you start gargling them with all of you simp stannery of him cornball lol

In typical stan fashion when faced with facts you ignore, get emotional, or move the goal post. STFU & don't quote anymore till you use some common sense
 

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Jimmy Henchman/Haitian Jack are Bad Boy affiliates. You can see that even from the footage of the studio with them talking & Diddy's response in Vibe. Up until his last interview, Biggie and Bad Boy played up on the fact people thought they directly shot Pac.

Even Funkmaster Flex admits that Biggie was the one who basically got the Dogg Pound shot at via Hot 97. That's what really made it unsafe for people.

Bad Boy didn't directly shoot Pac but they were involved in Jake Robles being shot. You have to look at everything in proper context.
Henchman and Jack were also Pac's affiliates :mjlit:

You might as well say that Roc-a-fella, Lighty, Stoute or someone else was involved, cause he was friends with them too.
 

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1: BIG told Pac before that Quad incident that he should keep away from Henchman and Jack.

2: There's absolutely zero proof that Biggie knew Pac was gonna get lined up that night at Quad. ZERO. No evidence, no audio, no people corroborating that claim. Pure bullshyt.

3: BIG wasn't used as no fukking decoy for that setup at Quad. He didn't even know Pac was going to be there. Pac was there for a whole different studio session.

4: Who said Pac should be some "human speed bump" for anybody? :dwillhuh:

Not sure anyone mentioned it yet, but folks might want to check out that recent Little Shawn/Shawn Pen Drink Champs episode where he actually speaks on it for the first time. Also speaks on the night of the Nells/Parker Meridian incident.
 

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Jimmy Henchman/Haitian Jack are Bad Boy affiliates. You can see that even from the footage of the studio with them talking & Diddy's response in Vibe. Up until his last interview, Biggie and Bad Boy played up on the fact people thought they directly shot Pac.

Even Funkmaster Flex admits that Biggie was the one who basically got the Dogg Pound shot at via Hot 97. That's what really made it unsafe for people.

Bad Boy didn't directly shoot Pac but they were involved in Jake Robles being shot. You have to look at everything in proper context.

Jimmy and Jack ain't no damn Badboy affiliates, stop it. That Quad incident was setup by Henchman. Badboy ain't have nothing to do with that.

And Biggie did what he was supposed to: called them nikkas out for doing that fukk shyt and nikkas represented they turf by clapping at them. Deathrow woulda done the same if the tables were turned.

Robles got popped cause Suge tried to son Puff in a club. Play stupid games...you know the rest.
 
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PAC got involved with street nikkas, biggie warned him. Y’all talking a bunch rap shyt in here. If pac was really on some shyt he shoulda handle the street nikkas in the street. Again I’m a pac fan. But seeing it from big perspective, pac was a clown why you throwing shots at me and you know who did it.i would distance my self too. Big still gotta be outside with the vultures on the east coast. You must be stupid if you think street nikkas care about east coast/west coast. Why you think crips from the west coast was fukking with big. The streets is different from rap. nikkas is motivated from money. Y’all in some fairytale rap shyt. This my last post.
 

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Not sure anyone mentioned it yet, but folks might want to check out that recent Little Shawn/Shawn Pen Drink Champs episode where he actually speaks on it for the first time. Also speaks on the night of the Nells/Parker Meridian incident.

I meant to check it out. Might check it out tonight.
 

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So that's Puff's fault Suge was trying to bully him with a Blood gang banger & his security held him down?

Puff's a snake that I can stand & I can't believe I'm defending him but he did no wrong from all the accounts I heard out in ATL

You didn't listen to Jermaine Dupri's account then. Diddy has been caught up in lies about the whole beef situation.

Suge & Jake were the only ones from Death Row at the party but Puffy was deep. Wolf shot Jake outside while Puff & Suge were outside arguing.
 

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PAC got involved with street nikkas, biggie warned him. Y’all talking a bunch rap shyt in here. If pac was really on some shyt he shoulda handle the street nikkas in the street. Again I’m a pac fan. But seeing it from big perspective, pac was a clown why you throwing shots at me and you know who did it.i would distance my self too. Big still gotta be outside with the vultures on the east coast. You must be stupid if you think street nikkas care about east coast/west coast. Why you think crips from the west coast was fukking with big. The streets is different from rap. nikkas is motivated from money. Y’all in some fairytale rap shyt. This my last post.

One of the realest shyts posted in here. BIG put his life and family and homies lives on the line by even telling Pac about them nikkas and Pac turn around and go on some one man campaign telling the whole world Biggie set him up.
 
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