Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!

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Just one quick question. Whose handling Floyd's training this time around? Snr. or Roger?
 

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Them nikkas can charge $200 and i'm buying it.Hell,i bought Jones/Hopkins 2 & went half with my pops for Pavlik/Espino .:skip:

My stepdad and I have a routine, he foots the bill on the PPV and I buy the food. Other people come over but I'm thinking they have are going to have to bring something this time. nikkas be freeloading with paper plates on deck to take shyt home.
 

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My stepdad and I have a routine, he foots the bill on the PPV and I buy the food. Other people come over but I'm thinking they have are going to have to bring something this time. nikkas be freeloading with paper plates on deck to take shyt home.
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Nacho Beristein: “Pacquiao will definitely win”
By Vitali Shaposhnikov | February 24, 2015 | 51 Comments





When it comes to picking a winner in the Mayweather Jr. vs. Pacquiao bout, you can’t help but be biased in one way or another. Of course it is essential to be rational and use the information available, and for Juan Manuel Marquez’s trainer Nacho Beristein, experience in preparing Marquez for both, Mayweather Jr. and Pacquiao, should technically add value to his opinion.

“Pacquiao will definitely win. Pacquiao is just too tough and too strong. Pressure and a lot of punches just beats Floyd up,” asserted Beristein via ringobserver.com.

There is no doubt that Pacquiao is one of the toughest fighters in the history of the sport, and packed with incredible stamina and power, he is an absolute freight train in the ring. It is also true that Mayweather’s kryptonite is a fighter that can throw a high volume of punches consistently.

On the other hand, it is also true that the more you throw the more you open up. Being that Mayweather Jr. is an absolute virtuoso when it comes precision counter-punching, camp Pacquiao might have to tighten up Manny’s defense when throwing, otherwise it might turn out to be an awfully one-sided fight.

”I know very well Pacquiao. I’ve seen him fight many times. He’s very good. And everybody picks Mayweather to win the fight because he wins so much against easy fighters, but Pacquiao is just too tough, too strong,” continued Beristein.

This statement is a good example of a biased angle. I think it would be hard to argue that Mayweather Jr. wins against easy fighters. Miguel Cotto, Saul Alvarez or Marcos Maidana, are all world class champions and are a class or two above Chris Alrigeri, and maybe even Brandon Rios.

It not a surprise to hear Beristein say such words, as it is popular to discredit Mayweather’s opposition, for reasons truly unknown. He fights top competition, but gets criticized for cherry- picking.

This fight is indeed good for boxing, because aside from the entertainment value, it will settle thousands of arguments, debates, and wagers.
 

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Nacho Beristein: “Pacquiao will definitely win”
By Vitali Shaposhnikov | February 24, 2015 | 51 Comments





When it comes to picking a winner in the Mayweather Jr. vs. Pacquiao bout, you can’t help but be biased in one way or another. Of course it is essential to be rational and use the information available, and for Juan Manuel Marquez’s trainer Nacho Beristein, experience in preparing Marquez for both, Mayweather Jr. and Pacquiao, should technically add value to his opinion.

“Pacquiao will definitely win. Pacquiao is just too tough and too strong. Pressure and a lot of punches just beats Floyd up,” asserted Beristein via ringobserver.com.

There is no doubt that Pacquiao is one of the toughest fighters in the history of the sport, and packed with incredible stamina and power, he is an absolute freight train in the ring. It is also true that Mayweather’s kryptonite is a fighter that can throw a high volume of punches consistently.

On the other hand, it is also true that the more you throw the more you open up. Being that Mayweather Jr. is an absolute virtuoso when it comes precision counter-punching, camp Pacquiao might have to tighten up Manny’s defense when throwing, otherwise it might turn out to be an awfully one-sided fight.

”I know very well Pacquiao. I’ve seen him fight many times. He’s very good. And everybody picks Mayweather to win the fight because he wins so much against easy fighters, but Pacquiao is just too tough, too strong,” continued Beristein.

This statement is a good example of a biased angle. I think it would be hard to argue that Mayweather Jr. wins against easy fighters. Miguel Cotto, Saul Alvarez or Marcos Maidana, are all world class champions and are a class or two above Chris Alrigeri, and maybe even Brandon Rios.

It not a surprise to hear Beristein say such words, as it is popular to discredit Mayweather’s opposition, for reasons truly unknown. He fights top competition, but gets criticized for cherry- picking.

This fight is indeed good for boxing, because aside from the entertainment value, it will settle thousands of arguments, debates, and wagers.
That's interesting he said that.... Nacho has always said great things about Floyd, all related to boxing...
 

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Gerry Penalosa: Manny Pacquiao will kick Floyd Mayweather’s ass
Ryan Songalia
February 23, 2015



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Gerry Penalosa held world titles at junior bantamweight and bantamweight during his underrated pro career. He now trains and manages fighters in his native Philippines.


MANILA, Philippines – While Las Vegas betting parlors are favoring Floyd Mayweather’s technical mastery and undefeated ledger, one of the Philippines’ greatest boxers is placing his chips for May 2 on Manny Pacquiao.

Gerry Penalosa, a retired former junior bantamweight and bantamweight champion, says he thinks Pacquiao’s southpaw punching power and hunger to disprove critics will carry him to victory at the MGM Grand.

“Pacquiao will kick Mayweather’s ass for sure. He can’t handle Manny’s power, he’s very explosive,” said Penalosa, whom Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach calls the “greatest technical Filipino boxer of all-time.”

“I don’t think Mayweather’s style can give a hard time for Manny. It’s Manny’s style that will be difficult to adjust for Mayweather’s corner, especially in-between rounds. I am sure because Mayweather can’t handle southpaw, Manny’s punching power, and the volume power.

“Assuming that he’s at 200 percent in shape, in late rounds Manny can stop Mayweather.”

The 36-year-old Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 knockouts), of General Santos City, Philippines, closed to a +210 underdog at the Las Vegas SuperBook over the weekend while Mayweather (47-0, 26 KOs) remained a sold 2-to-1 favorite at -250.

Penalosa, 43, thinks Mayweather’s trademark defensive posture – where he places his chin behind his left shoulder and counterpunches – can be effective against Pacquiao, who has spent the past three years rebuilding his reputation following a sixth-round knockout loss to Juan Manuel Marquez.

Mayweather, who turns 38 on Feb. 24, has never truly been knocked down and has scarcely been challenged in his career, having lost just one scorecard (in a split-decision win over Oscar de la Hoya in 2008) since turning professional in 1996.

“If he stays on the ropes, for sure Manny will kill him early,” said Penalosa. “Mayweather should be in top shape so he can run and try to outbox Manny. Maybe in the early rounds, he can run. But in the later rounds, if he feels to get tired, I think that’s the time Manny will kill him.”

Mayweather, who has won championships in five divisions, has defeated six southpaws in his career but had rocky moments in his bouts with lefties DeMarcus Corley and Zab Judah.

Floyd Mayweather Sr., the trainer/father of “Money” Mayweather, tells MLive.com that he feels Floyd Jr.’s body punching and straight right hands will lead to a knockout win over Pacquiao in the welterweight super-fight.

“A southpaw is definitely geared to be hit with right hands. I’m going to say that, along with the body work, it’s going to be a good right hand and a left hook that’s going to put him down,” Mayweather Sr. said.

Penalosa disagrees with Mayweather Sr. about body punching, feeling it’d open Mayweather Jr. to Pacquiao’s combinations but expressed concern about the lead right hand of Mayweather Jr.

Still, he doesn’t think Mayweather Jr. can hurt Pacquiao enough to dissuade his aggression.

Penalosa says he knew ahead of Mayweather’s signed contract announcement on the Shots app that the fight was a done deal and asked Pacquiao how he felt about the fight. “‘Trust me, I know it’s hard, but trust me and I will let you see,’” Penalosa said Pacquiao told him.

Penalosa also disputes Mayweather’s claims that he forced Pacquiao’s team to make their fight after five years of stop-and-start negotiations, saying that public pressure forced him into the fight.

“He has no choice. I think he was listening to his people say ‘Yeah, you can beat Manny.’ But deep down inside, Floyd is scared.”












*side note* :dead: at Pacquiao having to be at 200% in shape in order to stop Floyd in the late rounds though:heh:
 

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Ricky Hatton breaks down Mayweather vs. Pacquiao
Tom Gray
February 23, 2015


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In the six-plus years it’s taken welterweight superstars Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao to thrash out a deal for their mega-fight, both have had ample time to feast on the other’s prey.

Floyd had Oscar De La Hoya; Manny had Oscar. Manny had Miguel Cotto, Floyd had Cotto. Mayweather had Shane Mosley…OK, you get the idea.

One man who faced both parties, inarguably at the height of their powers is former two division titleholder, British boxing legend Ricky Hatton. “The Hitman” lost by 10th round TKO to Mayweather in 2007 and, 17 months later, was knocked out in the second by Pacquiao.

During a brief discussion with Hatton, this reporter pointed out that Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier had completed their epic trilogy in only four-and-a-half years. The question has to be: Why has the public remained so patient during an endless and energy-sapping build-up?

“Mayweather and Pacquiao have held the public’s interest for so long because this match-up has maintained its status as the biggest fight out there,” said Hatton. “When Ali and Frazier were around, there were less titles and, perhaps due to that, the best fought the best more often.

“We’re currently in an era where big fights can happen but they can also fall apart because there are more options available now. It would have been tragic had this fight not been signed and I take great pride in the fact that I’ve shared the ring with both of them.”

Now a successful promoter and trainer, Hatton is a student of the game and has always professed that if he hadn’t been a professional fighter, he would still have been a diehard fan of the sport.

So the fight is big but just how big is it?

Hatton said, “Floyd is 47-0 with titles in five divisions and Manny gets credited [in some quarters] with winning titles in eight divisions. In terms of what they’ve both accomplished, it’s up there with [Marvelous Marvin] Hagler versus [Sugar Ray] Leonard versus [Thomas] Hearns. It’s up there with any of them.

“Forget this particular era; Mayweather versus Pacquiao is one of the biggest fights of all time.”

It’s an uncomfortable fact for his loyal legion of fans but the Pacquiao Puzzle has been solved more than once whereas the “May-Vinci Code” is yet to be cracked. Hatton voiced similar concerns when tactics were discussed for May 2.

“Manny is a great fighter but when you look at the trouble he had with the counter-punching style of Juan Manuel Marquez, he could be in serious trouble with Floyd Mayweather,” said Hatton with trepidation in his voice.

“With that said, Manny will take a lot of heart from how Marcos Maidana was able to test Floyd and compete with him. For that reason, I give Manny a great shot in the fight because Mayweather has slowed down a touch.”

Pacquiao supporters also point out that styles make fights and that their man will bring too much heat for the frequently invisible Mayweather. The Filipino icon won’t mind missing with punches providing he connects on a few and the pace may extract a toll on his flashy nemesis.

“Manny is always on top of you and his hand and foot speed are very hard to read,” said Hatton, who held THE RING junior welterweight title for four years. “He’s very herky-jerky and extremely dangerous when he gets into punching range.

“Floyd will have his work cut out for him; that’s for sure.”

Suddenly the strategy conversation with Hatton changes pace. One of the best things about talking to an individual who has been there and done it at the top level is he can use his vast knowledge to open your eyes.

Consider this an example:

“I feel that Manny should box in and out against Mayweather, adopting a similar style to what he used against Oscar De La Hoya. Floyd’s shoulder roll defense wouldn’t be as effective and it would bring him out of his comfort zone,” said the former champion.

“The last time Floyd was forced to come forward against a speedy fighter was with Zab Judah [in 2006] and he struggled early on. Imagine Manny bouncing around, in and out, with Floyd hunting him down using the shoulder roll.

“Manny could make life very difficult for him if he does that.”

“The Hitman” clearly respects both fighters but one senses he retains a soft spot for Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather is simply not the type of person whom the Manchester man identifies with but he did not allow that to sway him in terms of a prediction.

Hatton said, “Floyd always finds a way to win, no matter the style, and that’s the reason that I make him a slight favorite over Manny.”
 

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Ricky Hatton breaks down Mayweather vs. Pacquiao
Tom Gray
February 23, 2015


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In the six-plus years it’s taken welterweight superstars Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao to thrash out a deal for their mega-fight, both have had ample time to feast on the other’s prey.

Floyd had Oscar De La Hoya; Manny had Oscar. Manny had Miguel Cotto, Floyd had Cotto. Mayweather had Shane Mosley…OK, you get the idea.

One man who faced both parties, inarguably at the height of their powers is former two division titleholder, British boxing legend Ricky Hatton. “The Hitman” lost by 10th round TKO to Mayweather in 2007 and, 17 months later, was knocked out in the second by Pacquiao.

During a brief discussion with Hatton, this reporter pointed out that Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier had completed their epic trilogy in only four-and-a-half years. The question has to be: Why has the public remained so patient during an endless and energy-sapping build-up?

“Mayweather and Pacquiao have held the public’s interest for so long because this match-up has maintained its status as the biggest fight out there,” said Hatton. “When Ali and Frazier were around, there were less titles and, perhaps due to that, the best fought the best more often.

“We’re currently in an era where big fights can happen but they can also fall apart because there are more options available now. It would have been tragic had this fight not been signed and I take great pride in the fact that I’ve shared the ring with both of them.”

Now a successful promoter and trainer, Hatton is a student of the game and has always professed that if he hadn’t been a professional fighter, he would still have been a diehard fan of the sport.

So the fight is big but just how big is it?

Hatton said, “Floyd is 47-0 with titles in five divisions and Manny gets credited [in some quarters] with winning titles in eight divisions. In terms of what they’ve both accomplished, it’s up there with [Marvelous Marvin] Hagler versus [Sugar Ray] Leonard versus [Thomas] Hearns. It’s up there with any of them.

“Forget this particular era; Mayweather versus Pacquiao is one of the biggest fights of all time.”

It’s an uncomfortable fact for his loyal legion of fans but the Pacquiao Puzzle has been solved more than once whereas the “May-Vinci Code” is yet to be cracked. Hatton voiced similar concerns when tactics were discussed for May 2.

“Manny is a great fighter but when you look at the trouble he had with the counter-punching style of Juan Manuel Marquez, he could be in serious trouble with Floyd Mayweather,” said Hatton with trepidation in his voice.

“With that said, Manny will take a lot of heart from how Marcos Maidana was able to test Floyd and compete with him. For that reason, I give Manny a great shot in the fight because Mayweather has slowed down a touch.”

Pacquiao supporters also point out that styles make fights and that their man will bring too much heat for the frequently invisible Mayweather. The Filipino icon won’t mind missing with punches providing he connects on a few and the pace may extract a toll on his flashy nemesis.

“Manny is always on top of you and his hand and foot speed are very hard to read,” said Hatton, who held THE RING junior welterweight title for four years. “He’s very herky-jerky and extremely dangerous when he gets into punching range.

“Floyd will have his work cut out for him; that’s for sure.”

Suddenly the strategy conversation with Hatton changes pace. One of the best things about talking to an individual who has been there and done it at the top level is he can use his vast knowledge to open your eyes.

Consider this an example:

“I feel that Manny should box in and out against Mayweather, adopting a similar style to what he used against Oscar De La Hoya. Floyd’s shoulder roll defense wouldn’t be as effective and it would bring him out of his comfort zone,” said the former champion.

“The last time Floyd was forced to come forward against a speedy fighter was with Zab Judah [in 2006] and he struggled early on. Imagine Manny bouncing around, in and out, with Floyd hunting him down using the shoulder roll.

“Manny could make life very difficult for him if he does that.”

“The Hitman” clearly respects both fighters but one senses he retains a soft spot for Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather is simply not the type of person whom the Manchester man identifies with but he did not allow that to sway him in terms of a prediction.

Hatton said, “Floyd always finds a way to win, no matter the style, and that’s the reason that I make him a slight favorite over Manny.”
I said that earlier, that manny should fight like he did vs oscar.
 

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Marquez: Pacquiao is Very Dangerous For Mayweather
Posted by: Miguel Rivera on 2/22/2015 .

By Miguel Rivera

Former four division world champion Juan Manuel Marquez appeared on El Golpe a Golpe and discussed the big fight, Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao. The fight is now finalized for May 2nd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Marquez faced both men in the ring. He was dominated over twelve rounds by Mayweather in 2009. He faced Pacquiao four times. They went to a draw the first time, with Pacquiao winning two controversial decisions in their following two fights. In the fourth meeting in 2012, Marquez visiously knocked out Pacquiao in the sixth round.

"We know that Manny Pacquiao is not at his best, but he is coming in with a lot of motivation, with a lot of hunger, but the level is not the same. After that big knockout in 2012, a fighter's mind can change. A big punch to the jaw and he can relive those moments of 2012. Hopefully this does not happen and it becomes a great fight for the fans who have waited, but in the end Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are not at their best," Marquez said.


"I'm not saying they are not [great fighters]. Floyd Mayweather is considered the best pound for pound, followed by Manny Pacquiao, but what I am saying is they are not at their best - athletically speaking - because that fight should have happened three years ago - but it remains as an interesting fight that all of the fans want to see."



"It's a very dangerous fight [for Mayweather], because he has not faced any opponent with the speed or aggression of Pacquiao, and in this case also with power. Mayweather has not faced an opponent with these characteristics."

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-pacquiao-very-dangerous-mayweather--87709
 
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