PANIC Time: If you're around 30 (flabby and sick) and still single.

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Nope. Malta has said he is not sure of whether his friend wants to be married/have kids. The guy Nemesis mentioned could be a social flub. I haven't read the post of any guy in here who seemed "successful" or even very smart (ie. Being +30 and still renting) Most of the posts have been people trying to get something they didn't get when they were 16-25.

Donating to charity and still having your own family wealth = Giving everything you've made to someone else. Got cha.

Your point about marriage proved my point.

The funny thing is, a thread from now, you'll be demeaning Reincar using the same things I've listed here (ie. saying he's been hurt by women, calling him a homo, using the fact that his woman got an abortion against him, etc.). I think the faux concern about what I'm saying is hilarious, especially when you will throw it on him in a heart beat.

Your dismissal of Nemesis' example is what I'm talking about. I know a few dudes who are successful (<30 millionaires, date women regularly) who don't have any plans to get married. They're not on the goofy "fukk a bytch" bullshyt dudes here are, but your qualifiers weren't that specific.

I was wrong. Bill Gates is giving it all to charity. He must have had no success with women, or must be gay, or socially maladjusted. It can't be that he set his kids up to be independently wealthy, and wants to use his accomplishments to do some good in the world

My point about marriage didn't prove your point. Again, not wanting to get married != not being able to get married. And on the flip side a lot of women will marry anybody just to get a ring and a day. So its not as cut and dry as you are suggesting.

And fukk Reincar No but seriously the difference is pretty obvious. We know dude's history & personality pretty well. You are making broad character indictments of people you've never met and know nothing about, aside from them not being married by 30, and making all kinds of convenient speculations about their dating history & financial standing to further validate your opinion.

I am not saying you don't have the right to your opinion, or that there is nothing of value in it... I'm just saying, let's separate opinions from facts.

 

[BillBanneker]

I say that because no one can seem to point out this 100% heterosexual male who has grown up with success and who has had great relationships/interactions with women who says "Hey, I wanna die alone and I don't want a woman".

Like, do these things even sound right together?

"I have achieved all these things, but fukk having a kid, when I die, I'm passing this on to someone else's family "

"I've had so much success with women and I've learned a lot of things from them, but fukk having a wife. I don't want to make a commitment to a woman. "

"I have a great social life and I really get along with people and I love hanging out with them, but fukk having a life long partner/friend "

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Your dismissal of Nemesis' example is what I'm talking about. I know a few dudes who are successful (<30 millionaires, date women regularly) who don't have any plans to get married. They're not on the goofy "fukk a bytch" bullshyt dudes here are, but your qualifiers weren't that specific.
I was wrong. Bill Gates is giving it all to charity. He must have had no success with women, or must be gay, or socially maladjusted. It can't be that he set his kids up to be independently wealthy, and wants to use his accomplishments to do some good in the world
My point about marriage didn't prove your point. Again, not wanting to get married != not being able to get married. And on the flip side a lot of women will marry anybody just to get a ring and a day. So its not as cut and dry as you are suggesting.
And fukk Reincar No but seriously the difference is pretty obvious. We know dude's history & personality pretty well. You are making broad character indictments of people you've never met and know nothing about, aside from them not being married by 30, and making all kinds of convenient speculations about their dating history & financial standing to further validate your opinion.
I am not saying you don't have the right to your opinion, or that there is nothing of value in it... I'm just saying, let's separate opinions from facts.

Ok. You can be successful, but how does that mean you aren't socially off? Or that you're good with people? You're trying to use "success" as the only qualifier when I've said other things too.

People don't want to get married for a good amount of reasons. Show me a person who is mature, who is a people person, who wants friends, who is successful, who is heterosexual, who wants to spend the rest of his life fukkin' hoes and then be alone. Nah. You know who these guys usually end up being? Those stupid as sugar daddies who will pay for companionship because they realized too late in the game that being alone and intruding on other people's family time when they need something ain't fun or cool.

And no, there is no difference. You will go in on Reincar and say all the things I'm saying as a way to villify him, when his main idea is only "don't get married". Don't tell me I'm wrong for the things I say, when I can catch you saying the same thing to someone else.

 

[JLova]

He's an athlete, though. I'm also pretty sure he'd like to settle down eventually.

 

[BillBanneker]

He's an athlete, though. I'm also pretty sure he'd like to settle down eventually.

Doesn't really matter, according to champ's logic, dude is a loser.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

He's an athlete, though. I'm also pretty sure he'd like to settle down eventually.

Yeah. He's even made attempts at atleast some form of committment by having girlfriends. Dudes in here are talking about being single bachelors, clubbin'/partyin' to pick up women forever.

He also has the herp

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Ok. You can be successful, but how does that mean you aren't socially off? Or that you're good with people? You're trying to use "success" as the only qualifier when I've said other things too.

Well for starters I am not sure how accurate a profile you can make of someone from superficial interactions. And your qualifiers are highly subjective. What is "socially off" to you might not be to someone else or vice versa.

People don't want to get married for a good amount of reasons. Show me a person who is mature, who is a people person, who wants friends, who is successful, who is heterosexual, who wants to spend the rest of his life fukkin' hoes and then be alone. Nah. You know who these guys usually end up being? Those stupid as sugar daddies who will pay for companionship because they realized too late in the game that being alone and intruding on other people's family time when they need something ain't fun or cool.

Again I know people like this personally. And having your own family or not is no indicator of whether you intrude on other people's family time. There are plenty of old people with kids who are deemed "intruders", rightfully or not.

And you keep coming back to this "alone" shyt. Not being married != being alone. Usually one person in a couple dies first. Does that mean the other person just sits in a room by themselves until they die too? I know older folks w/no kids and well developed social circles. Plus some people are able to make friends wherever they go, as well as maintain deep relationships with people over long periods of time. And there is always family. If your family's support/presence is contingent on you getting married they're not really there for you like they should be.

And no, there is no difference. You will go in on Reincar and say all the things I'm saying as a way to villify him, when his main idea is only "don't get married". Don't tell me I'm wrong for the things I say, when I can catch you saying the same thing to someone else.

There is a big difference between presenting the realities of marriage in the Western world and what Reincar does. You can choose to ignore it now since its convenient, but it is what it is. We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.

Bear in mind I also have never said people should do one thing or another... you want to be single, be single. You want to get married, get married. Just don't make character indictments or commands to the next man who you don't know from a can of paint, because he doesn't do what you do.

 

[*Angel*]

The hate in here is THICK! lol So much backwards thinking and failed shade.

 

[Jahmal]

Dudes in here are talking about being single bachelors, clubbin'/partyin' to pick up women forever.

As a man ,how could you other shame other men for picking up new puzzy? I dont know about you but when I'm old and grey I'm not trying to smash my wife's 50+ yr old puzz.

 

[BillBanneker]

Yeah. He's even made attempts at atleast some form of committment by having girlfriends. Dudes in here are talking about being single bachelors, clubbin'/partyin' to pick up women forever.

He also has the herp

DJ has had many girlfriends breh, (kind of like a rotation) according to the media.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Doesn't really matter, according to champ's logic, dude is a loser.

A guy who has made several attempts at courting women and who has also made commitments to them.

Jeter has girlfriends all the time. I don't see how this relates to the "I don't need a woman" crowd.

DJ has had many girlfriends breh, according to the media.

Making someone your "girlfriend" is seen as some form commitment right? Again, how does this relate to the "I don't need a woman for anything but sex" crowd. I've already stated that marriage isn't the only form of commitment.

Well for starters I am not sure how accurate a profile you can make of someone from superficial interactions. And your qualifiers are highly subjective. What is "socially off" to you might not be to someone else or vice versa.
Again I know people like this personally. And having your own family or not is no indicator of whether you intrude on other people's family time. There are plenty of old people with kids who are deemed "intruders", rightfully or not.
And you keep coming back to this "alone" shyt. Not being married != being alone. Usually one person in a couple dies first. Does that mean the other person just sits in a room by themselves until they die too? I know older folks w/no kids and well developed social circles. Plus some people are able to make friends wherever they go, as well as maintain deep relationships with people over long periods of time. And there is always family. If your family's support/presence is contingent on you getting married they're not really there for you like they should be.
There is a big difference between presenting the realities of marriage in the Western world and what Reincar does. You can choose to ignore it now since its convenient, but it is what it is. We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.
Bear in mind I also have never said people should do one thing or another... you want to be single, be single. You want to get married, get married. Just don't make character indictments or commands to the next man who you don't know from a can of paint, because he doesn't do what you do.

We all know what it means when someone is "socially off". 90% of this board will admit their are introverted/anti-social (which is probably why the shyt I'm typing seems so "wtf" to y'all").

Not being married doesn't equal being alone, of course, but the act of saying "I don't want to make an attempt at any kind of commitment" is telling. People in this thread are on some "playa for life" shyt and it sounds so stupid. Having "friends" ain't a life time comittment, and blood family is only an "obligatory" family commitment. "Relationship" commitment is the only one that is bent on someone actually wanting to be there for you.

The only way your argument survives is by separating everything I say into it's own thing and trying to judge my whole argument based on that. When you put all of those things together, the shyt becomes a lot clearer. Like I said, show me a successful hetero man who wants to give everything he and his parental family has worked for in life to someone else's family, who enjoys people, who respects and has had success with women, who doesn't want anyone who actually wants to be there for him and get vagina in the process.

I'm not ignoring anything. Reincar's general idea is "Don't get married, it's not a good idea", but you'll even argue stats (things that are real) with him with the things that I'm saying now.

As a man ,how could you other shame other men for picking up new puzzy? I dont know about you but when I'm old and grey I'm not trying to smash my wife's 50+ yr old puzz.

When known notorious trolls start taking your side of the argument, this is how you know you're wrong.

 

[the next guy]

I say that because no one can seem to point out this 100% heterosexual male who has grown up with success and who has had great relationships/interactions with women who says "Hey, I wanna die alone and I don't want a woman".

Like, do these things even sound right together?

"I have achieved all these things, but fukk having a kid, when I die, I'm passing this on to someone else's family "

"I've had so much success with women and I've learned a lot of things from them, but fukk having a wife. I don't want to make a commitment to a woman. "

"I have a great social life and I really get along with people and I love hanging out with them, but fukk having a life long partner/friend "

You don't pass it on to anyone. It dies with you.

So do you think you're a better man then Clooney or 50 cent? Be Honest.
Do you also think athletes should get married?
You were also crowing about black men/ white women marriages breaking up, so are you wrong in that thread or this one? Because to most people a marriage is a marriage, regardless of race,religion.


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Re Jeter, has has made commitments, but those are temporary. Derek is now dating a 22 year old and is catching heat for it. So techinically DaChamp has a point there, but overall if you have to make you happy with your choices. Not everyone getting married is a simp and not all old singles are hustlers.

 

[Jahmal]

When known notorious trolls start taking your side of the argument, this is how you know you're wrong.

You're a Troll

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

You don't pass it on to anyone. It dies with you.

So do you think you're a better man then Clooney or 50 cent? Be Honest.
Do you also think think athletes should get married?
You were also crowing about black men/ white women marriages breaking up, so are you wrong in that thread or this one? Because to most people a marriage is a marriage, regardless of race,religion.

 

[feelosofer]

Ehh it's worse for women than for men. If you have a job and your own place, you can still in your 30's.

But you shouldn't think of marraige until you're financially stable and that means being in your 30's in todays age.