Pawg (FBA) Is Cyber security oversaturated?

[L&HH]

Cyber Security Engineer for five years and Cyber Security Compliance Auditor for the past year and a half. Your job will be threaten by outsourcing. Why? A Senior Cyber Sec Engineer that knows firewalls, cloud and Endpoint Security. There was this American company I worked with, I jumped on the call, all the Firewall Engineers were based in India. Best way to be successful for me now is to be a shareholder.

My goal is to be ride this out for 4-5 years and make various investments so I don't rely on corporate america anymore

Are they from India because the company is specifically hiring outsourced talent or are they from India because there just isn’t enough American talent to fill the role?

My current job we need a firewall engineer and we’ve been struggling to hire for a year now (read post above)

My company hires foreign talent in other areas (development roles, database, sharepoint) and many of them are horrible.

 

[L&HH]

Anyone that actually works in IT knows that an advanced persistent threat is damn near unstoppable. 10 years ago, we had fancy cyber threat names like Heartbleed A few years later, we found out that anyone could be breached. We shifted to the response and recovery. eBay just said fukk it and kept quiet Companies do pay ransomware requests. It’s not reported but if the key isn’t readily available, you’ll just pay. My Info Sec guy doesn’t even understand networking.

pretty much. These roles are audit, insurance, and compliance checkboxes.

 

[shutterguy]

Yea thanks. I know it's a subset. Imma just be honest, I just want to do whatever sector of IT that pays well, is fully remote, has a market for it and the requirements to get in aren't too strenuous.

Weather that be cloud, coding etc. I know I most likely won't love what I'm doing, but If I like it enough and it gets me what I need, I can tolerate that. I'm not gonna be in the NBA or be a rich DJ which is really my passion lol.

I can put the work in, like I have multiple Sec+/Net + Textbooks and started multiple labs on Try Hack me, but no job experience.

This whole post I can relate to except I do have some job experience. 1 cert in Cyber the other in IT Support. Definitely feeling the fully remote part.

 

[Breh13]

It's not even about previous or current knowledge. IT is always about learning as quickly and efficiently as possible, like you're learning a new method or software literally a year after. Luckily most crucial software won't change too much as companies don't like changes unless its easy and quick.

Most of what you knew 5-10 years ago is limited. It's an industry where you have to keep up or it's going to fly past you. That's a double-edged sword. You won't be bored at medium to high levels in IT. But it can get tiring once you start getting older.

 

[Breh13]

Cybersecurity was and still is the biggest inside joke for IT professionals. Security in layers has always existed.

Anyone that actually works in IT knows that an advanced persistent threat is damn near unstoppable. 10 years ago, we had fancy cyber threat names like Heartbleed A few years later, we found out that anyone could be breached. We shifted to the response and recovery. eBay just said fukk it and kept quiet Companies do pay ransomware requests. It’s not reported but if the key isn’t readily available, you’ll just pay. My Info Sec guy doesn’t even understand networking.

Need that actual AI to monitor and react at light speed. Some time go.

 

[Breh13]

Are they from Indian because the company is specifically hiring outsourced talent or are they from India because there just isn’t a bough American talent to fill the role?

My current job we need a firewall engineer and we’ve been struggling to hire for a year now (read post above)

My company hires foreign talent in other areas (development roles, database, sharepoint) and many of them are horrible.

Yeah, higher level or specialised IT looks to be difficult to hire from within or most are already in a job so the internal industry is lacking.

There are jobs out there, I've been through places where they also struggle to hire medium to high-level people internally so they resort to H-1B.

At the same time though these companies might not be offering what these talents want and H-1B dudes will take mostly anything to get here. Plus they won't leave as long as they're needed due to the delicate situation being on a VISA.

 

[New Jeruz Jewelz]

pretty much. These roles are audit, insurance, and compliance checkboxes.

This ^^

 

[RamsayBolton]

how yall feel about this h1b debate btw

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

And even with all that, it’s never enough

People have to think of IT as in it’s a lot of moving parts… you have to specialize in something

Cyber is just a subset of IT that has it’s own subset of subsets. Just pick a direction you like and go for it. Don’t need to know or read code to be in cyber. It helps, but it’s not needed not even to be in IT. IT in itself is it’s own language and every subset has it’s own language and terminology, so impossible to know and do everything.

Security will always be there because the tech is always growing

Facts, OP you could do some lightweight shyt like A+ help desk shyt or get a Server+ cert and go that route (as far as I remember that’s one of the few Certs that doesn’t expire) but IT is super broad someone in Cybersecurity might be dumb as rocks when it comes to hardware issues because they don’t deal with that as much.

From all the advice I’d been given it’s good to have hybrid skills. So if you want to do networking then good to add Cloud under your belt eventually. Even in cybersecurity there’s hella different shyt you can do from being an analyst checking logs n shyt to building up whole infrastructure for companies and govt agencies. I was just chatting with a friend in the field earlier she’s in between jobs rn but even still she was encouraging me to get back into studying because the job market isn’t as bad as it seems depending on your skill set.

Best of luck OP, more of us need to get are Certs up myself included.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Facts, OP you could do some lightweight shyt like A+ help desk shyt or get a Server+ cert and go that route (as far as I remember that’s one of the few Certs that doesn’t expire) but IT is super broad someone in Cybersecurity might be dumb as rocks when it comes to hardware issues because they don’t deal with that as much.

From all the advice I’d been given it’s good to have hybrid skills. So if you want to do networking then good to add Cloud under your belt eventually. Even in cybersecurity there’s hella different shyt you can do from being an analyst checking logs n shyt to building up whole infrastructure for companies and govt agencies. I was just chatting with a friend in the field earlier she’s in between jobs rn but even still she was encouraging me to get back into studying because the job market isn’t as bad as it seems depending on your skill set.

Best of luck OP, more of us need to get are Certs up myself included.

Facts

I’m actually pivoting to Cloud now, instead of just focusing on Networking or On-Prem security.

So in that, I can go in any direction. Cloud Networking, Administration, or Security.

Just got to keep pivoting. My cousin already did the pivot from Security to Cloud.


This shyt is like a skill tree in an RPG to me.