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Are you really this dense? they are drawing a distinction between those who fantasize, and those who are compulsively willed to act on those fantasies. Its the difference between someone that needs to fukk kids, and one of those weirdo JBO nikkas that makes :shaq: smileys when discussing teenage girls, and sexualizes them, w/o necessarily harboring the intention of wanting to go through with the sexual act. This is consistent with the laws in this country, since we dont arrest people for thinking about about something, but acting on those impulsions....your example is between a category of people who have gone through with the act (serial killers) The APA are adding dimensions

This just demonstrates how conservatives habitually throw all logic and reason out the window, and power all of their arguments through their emotions, phobias, and biases. If any of you homophobes had bothered to actually read the article, w/o hyperventilating, you should have easily been able to understand the aims and objectives of the APA.

1. Fantasizing needs the whole book categorized. Those who have fantasies about being a serial killer, being raped, being the rapist, having gay experiences, etc. Why should this be singled out? If it's not acted on then....it's just that a fantasy. Therefor you really couldn't use that as a label without labeling everything fantasy period.

2. Im neither liberal or conservative. Your mind-set is stuff in the 2 party behavior. Black and White with no grey. The aims of the APA are just like any other bought off organization that places their standards over the people with control of laws, definitions. Actually APA hasn't really mentioned anything of the backgrounds of the these pedos? They don't mention household nor abuse. They look at effects and not causes. Their studies are really invalid that way.
 
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Ahhh, got you. I read a LOT about 'em when the Atlanta Child Murders were poppin' up to present-day. I think a lot of those cats were lying just to get some leniency upon sentencing. From what I understand, most of them think they're more intelligent than the rest of society, and that gives them impetus to do the things they do. Then, you got cats like Jeffrey Dahmer that completely fly past a 'normal' profile for a serial killer since there was no abuse in his developmental years.​

With in the serial killer mind that was developed some created the sociopath mind. So some believe it be smarter but that's only cause they weren't caught in the act. Dahmer was sexually abused by his neighbor( molested) but his parents didn't abuse him. He was neglected as a kid, his parents were always fighting.
 

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I would just like to say, I was the first to call it...at least on thecoli. The western world is screwing humanity.
 

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Pedophilia Now Classified as Sexual Orientation
Posted on October 29, 2013 by SBrinkmann

The American Psychiatric Association has changed the classification of pedophilia from a disorder to a sexual orientation or preference in its latest edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V). (Please see important update at end of article.)


Neon Tommy is reporting that the APA is drawing “a very distinct line between pedophilia and pedophilic disorder.”

For instance, pedophilia is defined in the new edition as referring “to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation, whereas pedophilic disorder is defined as a compulsion and is used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality,” the report states.

This is not a total surprise as the classification of pedophilia in the DSM has been steadily evolving over the years. The previous edition categorized pedophilia as a disorder only if the fantasies or urges involve children under the age of 13, if they last at least six months, if the individual has acted upon them, or if they cause distress such as legal problems.

Paul Christiano, a registered sex offender and spokesperson for B4U-ACT, a pedophila advocacy group that offers support for “minor-attracted persons”, wants to see the system changed because of its one-size-fits-all approach that treats a man who committed 20 consecutive rapes and a 19-year-old boy who had sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend the same way.

There is some basis for wanting a change, writes Hannah Maluyao for Neon Tommy, but the grounds for this change are “murky” with B4U-ACT.

For example, when questioned about the most responsible way in which a pedophile should manage his sexual desires, Christiano said they encourage their members to keep their preferences as a purely mental exercise that is never acted upon.

“B4U-ACT does not condone illegal activity,” Christiano insisted.

“Yet how can we be assured that such behavior remains entirely in the mind and not carried out in the bedroom?” Maluyao asks. “Answer: we can’t.”

Christiano has also advocated for the “sexual autonomy” of children, saying in his senior thesis as a graduate student, that they “should not be left in the dark about their own sexuality.” More education in sexuality would help them to better understand boundaries.

“However, there is an underlying suggestion that with sexual knowledge comes sexual consent,” Mulayao writes. “If children were permitted to be more sexually autonomous, would they then be able to fully consent to a sexual relationship or more importantly, a sexual relationship with an adult?”

Caitlin Myers, a doctorate student in Sociology at the University of Southern California told Mulayao that while open discussion of sexuality would be good, children still cannot give consent.

“In theory,” Myers says, “pedophilia as a practiced sexual orientation walks a thin line. There is no possibility of pedophilia becoming an accepted sexual orientation in current culture.”

Dr. Gregory Popcak of the Pastoral Solutions Institute, and organization dedicated to helping Catholics find faith-filled solutions to marriage, family, and personal problems, does not believe people should be too concerned about these changes to the DSM. The changes made were more editorial than clinical.

“From what I can tell, the DSM V criteria for Pedophilic Disorder shouldn’t bother anyone,” he writes for Patheos. “I’m, personally, not sure what to make of those who refer to the idea of a pedophilic orientation. If it is just to distinguish between ideation and actions, I think that’s fine. In fact, that would be exactly how the Catholic Church thinks of it. One can have a predisposition to a sin or even a strong temptation to a sin without committing a sin. There is a big difference between thinking about robbing a bank and actually robbing it. Neither is good, but only the latter is actually sinful.”

However, he goes on to warn that “if calling it an orientation is somehow used or co-opted by some social advocacy group to justify pedophilia as ‘just another normal expression of sexual desires’ then that would be seriously problematic. That said, I don’t really think that’s what’s happening–at this time, anyway.”

PLEASE NOTE: This article originally stated that the author of the DSM-5 was the American Psychological Association. This was an error. The DSM-5 is published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA). We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

- See more at: http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=25249#sthash.vRHKD5CL.dpuf

:beli: Thanks alot guys, i tried to warn you. I tried!! :to:









no wonder they tried to brainwash the public with this little stunt....an organization known for pedophilia-come on please that little kid has a remote controlled chip implanted in his brain

they stunt is all about getting the brainwashed public to accept pedophilia

soullless b*stards
 

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Pedophilia Now Classified as Sexual Orientation
Posted on October 29, 2013 by SBrinkmann

The American Psychiatric Association has changed the classification of pedophilia from a disorder to a sexual orientation or preference in its latest edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V). (Please see important update at end of article.)


Neon Tommy is reporting that the APA is drawing “a very distinct line between pedophilia and pedophilic disorder.”

For instance, pedophilia is defined in the new edition as referring “to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation, whereas pedophilic disorder is defined as a compulsion and is used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality,” the report states.

This is not a total surprise as the classification of pedophilia in the DSM has been steadily evolving over the years. The previous edition categorized pedophilia as a disorder only if the fantasies or urges involve children under the age of 13, if they last at least six months, if the individual has acted upon them, or if they cause distress such as legal problems.

Paul Christiano, a registered sex offender and spokesperson for B4U-ACT, a pedophila advocacy group that offers support for “minor-attracted persons”, wants to see the system changed because of its one-size-fits-all approach that treats a man who committed 20 consecutive rapes and a 19-year-old boy who had sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend the same way.

There is some basis for wanting a change, writes Hannah Maluyao for Neon Tommy, but the grounds for this change are “murky” with B4U-ACT.

For example, when questioned about the most responsible way in which a pedophile should manage his sexual desires, Christiano said they encourage their members to keep their preferences as a purely mental exercise that is never acted upon.

“B4U-ACT does not condone illegal activity,” Christiano insisted.

“Yet how can we be assured that such behavior remains entirely in the mind and not carried out in the bedroom?” Maluyao asks. “Answer: we can’t.”

Christiano has also advocated for the “sexual autonomy” of children, saying in his senior thesis as a graduate student, that they “should not be left in the dark about their own sexuality.” More education in sexuality would help them to better understand boundaries.

“However, there is an underlying suggestion that with sexual knowledge comes sexual consent,” Mulayao writes. “If children were permitted to be more sexually autonomous, would they then be able to fully consent to a sexual relationship or more importantly, a sexual relationship with an adult?”

Caitlin Myers, a doctorate student in Sociology at the University of Southern California told Mulayao that while open discussion of sexuality would be good, children still cannot give consent.

“In theory,” Myers says, “pedophilia as a practiced sexual orientation walks a thin line. There is no possibility of pedophilia becoming an accepted sexual orientation in current culture.”

Dr. Gregory Popcak of the Pastoral Solutions Institute, and organization dedicated to helping Catholics find faith-filled solutions to marriage, family, and personal problems, does not believe people should be too concerned about these changes to the DSM. The changes made were more editorial than clinical.

“From what I can tell, the DSM V criteria for Pedophilic Disorder shouldn’t bother anyone,” he writes for Patheos. “I’m, personally, not sure what to make of those who refer to the idea of a pedophilic orientation. If it is just to distinguish between ideation and actions, I think that’s fine. In fact, that would be exactly how the Catholic Church thinks of it. One can have a predisposition to a sin or even a strong temptation to a sin without committing a sin. There is a big difference between thinking about robbing a bank and actually robbing it. Neither is good, but only the latter is actually sinful.”

However, he goes on to warn that “if calling it an orientation is somehow used or co-opted by some social advocacy group to justify pedophilia as ‘just another normal expression of sexual desires’ then that would be seriously problematic. That said, I don’t really think that’s what’s happening–at this time, anyway.”

PLEASE NOTE: This article originally stated that the author of the DSM-5 was the American Psychological Association. This was an error. The DSM-5 is published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA). We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

- See more at: http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=25249#sthash.vRHKD5CL.dpuf

:beli: Thanks alot guys, i tried to warn you. I tried!! :to:









no wonder they tried to brainwash the public with this little stunt....an organization known for pedophilia-come on please that little kid has a remote controlled chip implanted in his brain

that stunt is all about getting the brainwashed public to accept pedophilia

soullless b*stards
 

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have any of you fukking morons that ramble at length about society's ills actually done any research in your lives? or have you for so long rested on the "ad hominem :beli: " retort that you just post whatever fukking source you want to, completely disregarding the idea of legitimate reporting?

OP is linking to a right-wing catholic women's blog, which is citing an amateur newspaper reporting on findings by the goddamn American Family Association

and nobody bothered to check this at all huh? :russ:

In response to media calls, including queries from Charisma News, the APA admitted there was an error in the DSM and announced plans to correct its manual to make it clear that it does not classify pedophilia as a sexual orientation.

“The American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5) has recently been published after a comprehensive multi-year research and review of all of its diagnostic categories,” the statement reads.

“In the case of pedophilic disorder, the diagnostic criteria essentially remained the same as in DSM-IV-TR. Only the disorder name was changed from 'pedophilia' to ‘pedophilic disorder’ to maintain consistency with the chapter’s other disorder listings.

“'Sexual orientation’ is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its use in the DSM-5 text discussion is an error and should read ‘sexual interest.’ In fact, APA considers pedophilic disorder a ‘paraphilia,’ not a ‘sexual orientation.’ This error will be corrected in the electronic version of DSM-5 and the next printing of the manual.

“APA stands firmly behind efforts to criminally prosecute those who sexually abuse and exploit children and adolescents. We also support continued efforts to develop treatments for those with pedophilic disorder with the goal of preventing future acts of abuse.”

all you chicken littles, shut the fukk up already
 

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Necrophilia, Zoophilia, Coprophilia(-phagia), etc. The list is a bit long, but I don't think there's really anything to worry about........yet.

They seriously need to do something about the laws, though. I know a couple dudes that are registered sex-offenders because they were with girls below the age-of-consent while they, also, were under the age of consent.

Makes very little sense, but efficiency in the courtroom >>>>>> justice many times.
yeah one of my boys is on the list because him and his wife got freaky one time in their car.
 

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have any of you fukking morons that ramble at length about society's ills actually done any research in your lives? or have you for so long rested on the "ad hominem :beli: " retort that you just post whatever fukking source you want to, completely disregarding the idea of legitimate reporting?

OP is linking to a right-wing catholic women's blog, which is citing an amateur newspaper reporting on findings by the goddamn American Family Association
In response to media calls, including queries from Charisma News, the APA admitted there was an error in the DSM and announced plans to correct its manual to make it clear that it does not classify pedophilia as a sexual orientation.

“The American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5) has recently been published after a comprehensive multi-year research and review of all of its diagnostic categories,” the statement reads.

“In the case of pedophilic disorder, the diagnostic criteria essentially remained the same as in DSM-IV-TR. Only the disorder name was changed from 'pedophilia' to ‘pedophilic disorder’ to maintain consistency with the chapter’s other disorder listings.

“'Sexual orientation’ is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its use in the DSM-5 text discussion is an error and should read ‘sexual interest.’ In fact, APA considers pedophilic disorder a ‘paraphilia,’ not a ‘sexual orientation.’ This error will be corrected in the electronic version of DSM-5 and the next printing of the manual.

“APA stands firmly behind efforts to criminally prosecute those who sexually abuse and exploit children and adolescents. We also support continued efforts to develop treatments for those with pedophilic disorder with the goal of preventing future acts of abuse.”

and nobody bothered to check this at all huh? :russ:



all you chicken littles, shut the fukk up already
someone should close this thread after this post....
 

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fukking sickening.
 
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Once again... all you outraged clowns can calm down.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/pedophilia-sexual-orientation_n_4183482.html

Whopping Pedophilia 'Sexual Orientation' Error Sparks Right-Wing Freakout

A mainstream Christian news site and a number of smaller, right-wing blogs published stories this week alleging that the American Psychiatric Association, or APA, had classified pedophilia as a sexual orientation.

"Just as the APA declared homosexuality an ‘orientation’ under tremendous pressure from homosexual activists in the mid-'70s, now, under pressure from pedophile activists, they have declared the desire for sex with children an ‘orientation,’ too. It's not hard to see where this will lead. More children will become sexual prey," said an article in Charisma News, a Christian media organization, quoting "cultural expert" Sandy Rios, a Fox News contributor and talking head for the anti-gay American Family Association's radio station.

The article quickly went viral, garnering over 100,000 Facebook shares within 24 hours of being published and lighting up the right-wing blogosphere. Among many bloggers and commenters, the shared sentiment was that this was a logical progression from the normalization of homosexuality that began in the 1960's.

The only problem is, the report wasn't true. The APA appears to have made a seemingly small mistake that set off a rapid chain reaction of confusion and hate.

In a text discussion of changes it made to the way it refers to sexually deviant behaviors in its updated Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM, for short), the APA accidentally called pedophilia a "sexual orientation." Conservative media outlets and pundits pounced on the statement and disseminated it on blogs and social networks.

The APA issued a statement to the press on Thursday, saying it had acted in "error," and clarifying that the only difference in how pedophilia is referred to from the last DSM is that "the disorder name was changed from 'pedophilia' to 'pedophilic disorder'" in order to "maintain consistency with the chapter’s other disorder listings."

Charisma News updated its article to say that "some are disputing" the claims made by Sandy Rios, but the article continues to be shared, and several of the blogs that picked up the story have yet to issue their own corrections.
 

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That is FBI standards not the Bible of Psy. I studied serial killers for years and you can trace 95% of them to abusive households.

Your 95% statistic is just nonsense. Some serial killers are abused as children; others are not. There are many serial killers who come from higher class families where there was no testimonied abuse for the killer, parents or siblings. It's usually a predisposition/environment thing. The environmental thing doesn't have to be bause, sometimes it's something which might trip psychopathy in some people like marijuana or a lack of social life.

Ahhh, got you. I read a LOT about 'em when the Atlanta Child Murders were poppin' up to present-day. I think a lot of those cats were lying just to get some leniency upon sentencing. From what I understand, most of them think they're more intelligent than the rest of society, and that gives them impetus to do the things they do. Then, you got cats like Jeffrey Dahmer that completely fly past a 'normal' profile for a serial killer since there was no abuse in his developmental years.​

Most serial killers are actually below average intelligence, though the rest of your post is correct.
 
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Your 95% statistic is just nonsense. Some serial killers are abused as children; others are not. There are many serial killers who come from higher class families where there was no testimonied abuse for the killer, parents or siblings. It's usually a predisposition/environment thing. The environmental thing doesn't have to be bause, sometimes it's something which might trip psychopathy in some people like marijuana or a lack of social life.



Most serial killers are actually below average intelligence, though the rest of your post is correct.

1. Ok I said 95% are and the 5% aren't but yet you say some are and some aren't. You ratio is 50/50....which is totally crap with no real evidence. The reason I left out 5% is b/c the serial killers who were in the past like( Zodiac) are unknown. No one knows what his story is and there are a few like him.

2. What serial killers were from higher class families? Name them. Environment is subjective. How did these high class families have serial killers in them with no predisposition to violence or violent acts? Anti-socialism is known to be for those who have been isolated, depraved and secluded from society.
 
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