Pedophilia now classified as Sexual Orientation
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The end is near friends, we didn't learn from the Romans or Greeks
That trolls can be serial killers.
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
it's hilarious how dudes just ignore the most important posts in a thread because it contradicts their point 
it's hilarious how dudes just ignore the most important posts in a thread because it contradicts their point
Maybe create a separate thread with the articles we posted here.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
ARE THERE VANDALS AND VISIGOTHS ON THE HORIZON, BROTHER?
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
im good breh, i don't have the energy to educate these buffoons. truth falling on deaf ears can deflate even the stoutest of hearts 
thevarangian
complete mark
the worst thing about how it currently stands in today's society is that people who are born attracted to children have no real recourse to fix it. they can't go to the police or anything and if they tell anyone they'll be demonized for it. if this is one step closer to creating a scenario where people can get some genuine help, i'm all for it.
as long as they don't rape any kids
as long as they don't rape any kids
i avoided this thread for like a week, but it keeps popping back on 1st page, so fukk it..........................
First off, no u weren't.. i called in on sohh... and two posters in this thread and like 5 posters not in here called it before me.
REgardless, it's common sense. however, Once something like this occurs... the goal post are moved 'forward'. Then when thekingsman sounds like a crazy fool on the next point that comes to fruition .... they are then like "well, what the research really means is this and not this, blah blah some fakkity bs".
Anyway, I don't even care about this shyt anymore. I'm not pro all of it.... but why be against it. We should let people just be who they are. We know what time it is these days. Who cares about the " all sexual desires is OK" crowd. , Their stance is that "lets Not say that society creates these defects but Please lets not call them mental disorders " They've essentially destroyed all chance at deeper research and possible preventive measures. We aren't allowed to call things what they are..... OR treat things as anything be natural. So we can't attempt to prevent them like we do most other defects.
Like a poster mentioned.... in the situation were a man beats up a man for pretending to be a female.. the first man is the wrong one. That = utopia in the minds of a few.
ANYWAY......
They are simply taking baby steps. APA DSM V fixed their classification. It doesn't say orientation any longer . it will now say 'sexual interest'. The printed versions are fukked up... but the electronic versions will have this correction.
Just let people be who they are? How far are you willing to allow people "be who they are?" Where would you say the line has been crossed?
when one of these young boys who supports this shyt... wakes up with his college roommates dikk in his ass like "nikka if u hit me I'm pressing charges and I'll tell everyone u hate the gays!!! - you'll be finished around these parts"naw, I'm joking....
we are a social animal.. we evolved into this shyt........ aka to the point were we falsely believe that family structure and societal norms are irrelevant. idk, shyt's probably an unavoidable side effect of being so advanced.
at the end of the day, we've advanced so much that none of this really matters. nikka as we speak the internet is tracking us to know what ads to push onto us... our thinking about everything will be gently guided in one direction or the next.
eventually a rock will hit our planet.... or the moon will move away far enough that it will stop our earths rotation and we'll perish and start over and do it right. But for now where a dude is sticking his dikk (or "desires" to put it) doesn't really affect my paper, so idc. Liberals have said it's OK for grown men to wanna fukk my sons.. so it's whatever at this point.
You question was... how far am i willing to go? I say it doesn't matter. When u have people changing the definitions of institutions like marriage that predate the oldest customs... when u have people choosing to dress up as the opposite sex then even compete in their competitions..... when you have the APA..... the freaking APA - the people who taught us how to write properly in college... telling us they are making classification mistakes, it's time to realize that ur ideas about normality are archaic and it's time to move on.
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?
Dr. James Cantor of CAMH has shown pedophilia is like a sexual orientation — a deep attraction that cannot change. Now, pedophiles who have never molested children are seeking social acceptance.
Pedophilia has been widely viewed as a psychological disorder triggered by early childhood trauma.
Now, many experts see it as a biologically rooted condition that does not change — like a sexual orientation — thanks largely to a decade of research by Dr. James Cantor at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health.
Cantor’s team has found that pedophiles share a number of physical characteristics, including differences in brain wiring. It’s now thought that about 1 to 5 per cent of men are pedophiles, meaning they are primarily attracted to children.
These findings have been widely accepted among scientists, but have had little impact on social attitudes or law. However, we are left with the alarming question: if some men are born pedophiles, what should society do with them?
Ethan Edwards has always loved little girls.
For years, he told himself his feelings were protective and loving, nothing more. But when he hit 50, he found he couldn’t stifle his desires any longer.
“I realized that young girls certainly took my breath away, more than grown-ups are usually charmed by kids,” he says.
Edwards, using a pseudonym, wrote about this realization on Virtuous Pedophiles, a website he co-founded for pedophiles who have never molested children. The group says their attraction is one they were born with and cannot change, but can control.
Edwards says the goal of Virtuous Pedophiles is to prevent child abuse, by reducing the stigma against non-offender pedophiles.
“We do not choose to be attracted to children, and we cannot make that attraction go away,” reads the website, which has about 200 members.
“But we can resist the temptation to abuse children sexually, and many of us present no danger to children whatsoever. Yet we are despised for having a sexual attraction that we did not choose, cannot change, and successfully resist.”
The biology of pedophiles
Sitting inside his office at the College St. research hospital, Cantor is surrounded by books on sexology and eccentric decor — a framed sign that reads “Data Is My Porn,” a throw pillow that spells “penis” in Braille.
Down the hall at the Kurt Freund Phallometric Lab, Cantor’s research team conducts experiments on convicted sex offenders. The men view nude images of children and adults of both sexes, while a device measures blood flow to their penises.
The method, called phallometry and invented by Freund in the 1950s, accurately measures sexual interests in 90 per cent of men, Cantor says.
“It’s the most obvious test in the world,” he says. “The procedure gives us a relative measure of how he reacts to the adult categories versus the child categories.”
His team has found that pedophiles share many physical characteristics. They are shorter, on average, than other men. They are three times more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous. Their IQs are about 10 to 15 points lower. Finally, they are more prone to childhood head injuries — which Cantor chalks up to a natural clumsiness.
These physical characteristics are determined before birth, so the explanation for pedophilia must be in part prenatal, Cantor says.
“It’s become harder and harder to explain pedophilia on just (early childhood events). It’s either purely biological or a mix of biological and experiential. But pure experience can’t explain these data.”
Cantor, an internationally respected clinical psychologist, has also conducted studies with sex offenders using MRIs. He has found they have less white matter — the connective tissue that carries messages to other parts of the brain — than other types of criminal offenders.
The evidence suggests pedophilia results from atypical wiring in the brain. Cantor calls it “cross-wiring”: the stimuli that usually evoke nurturing and protective reactions in adults is instead evoking sexual reactions in pedophiles.
Similar experiments are being conducted across the globe, most notably at Berlin’s Institute of Sexology and Sexual Medicine, but Cantor’s research has greatly influenced the view among researchers that pedophilia has a biological basis.
Pedophiles are thought to be overwhelmingly men. About a third of those men prefer boys, about a third prefer girls, and a third will be attracted to both.
Although female sex offenders exist, they are rare and it is more difficult to test their desires. Queen’s University sexologist Dr. Meredith Chiversconducted a similar genital-based test on women, but found, curiously, that females respond to everything — including images of bonobos copulating. (One theory is that during evolution, women developed this response as an automatic defence mechanism for rape.)
Some researchers disagree on whether the brain differences in pedophiles occurred before birth or in early development. Regardless, many are coming around to the view that pedophiles cannot be “cured” — but some can be stopped from molesting children.
Preventing child abuse
“Not all sex offenders who target children are pedophiles, and not all pedophiles are sex offenders,” says Dr. Michael Seto, a pedophilia expert and forensic researcher with the Royal Ottawa Health Care Group.
Seto, a former colleague of Cantor’s at CAMH, has found that only 50 to 60 per cent of convicted sex offenders are pedophiles. The rest have sexually abused children for reasons beyond attraction — personality disorders, chaotic households or violent impulses.
His research has focused on psychological traits shared by sex offenders, potentially providing insight into why some pedophiles molest children, while other “virtuous” pedophiles like Edwards are apparently able to control their urges.
Seto has found that sex offenders are much more likely to have a sexual abuse history than other types of criminal offenders. Certain traits, including impulsiveness, risk-taking behaviour, sexual preoccupation and lack of empathy, are also shared by sex offenders.
He has argued forcefully for pedophilia to be thought of as a sexual orientation — an idea he acknowledges is controversial, but hopes will actually help prevent child abuse.
“Right now, it’s really slanted so that the treatment services are for people who have gotten into trouble,” he says. “Obviously, we need that, but I think where there is a big gap is in terms of prevention. How do we reach people who are sexually attracted to children and are aware of it?”
Dr. James Cantor of CAMH has shown pedophilia is like a sexual orientation — a deep attraction that cannot change. Now, pedophiles who have never molested children are seeking social acceptance.
Pedophilia has been widely viewed as a psychological disorder triggered by early childhood trauma.
Now, many experts see it as a biologically rooted condition that does not change — like a sexual orientation — thanks largely to a decade of research by Dr. James Cantor at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health.
Cantor’s team has found that pedophiles share a number of physical characteristics, including differences in brain wiring. It’s now thought that about 1 to 5 per cent of men are pedophiles, meaning they are primarily attracted to children.
These findings have been widely accepted among scientists, but have had little impact on social attitudes or law. However, we are left with the alarming question: if some men are born pedophiles, what should society do with them?
- Bolstered by this research, pedophiles who have never molested children are seeking social acceptance.
Ethan Edwards has always loved little girls.
For years, he told himself his feelings were protective and loving, nothing more. But when he hit 50, he found he couldn’t stifle his desires any longer.
“I realized that young girls certainly took my breath away, more than grown-ups are usually charmed by kids,” he says.
Edwards, using a pseudonym, wrote about this realization on Virtuous Pedophiles, a website he co-founded for pedophiles who have never molested children. The group says their attraction is one they were born with and cannot change, but can control.
Edwards says the goal of Virtuous Pedophiles is to prevent child abuse, by reducing the stigma against non-offender pedophiles.
“We do not choose to be attracted to children, and we cannot make that attraction go away,” reads the website, which has about 200 members.
“But we can resist the temptation to abuse children sexually, and many of us present no danger to children whatsoever. Yet we are despised for having a sexual attraction that we did not choose, cannot change, and successfully resist.”
The biology of pedophiles
Sitting inside his office at the College St. research hospital, Cantor is surrounded by books on sexology and eccentric decor — a framed sign that reads “Data Is My Porn,” a throw pillow that spells “penis” in Braille.
Down the hall at the Kurt Freund Phallometric Lab, Cantor’s research team conducts experiments on convicted sex offenders. The men view nude images of children and adults of both sexes, while a device measures blood flow to their penises.
The method, called phallometry and invented by Freund in the 1950s, accurately measures sexual interests in 90 per cent of men, Cantor says.
“It’s the most obvious test in the world,” he says. “The procedure gives us a relative measure of how he reacts to the adult categories versus the child categories.”
His team has found that pedophiles share many physical characteristics. They are shorter, on average, than other men. They are three times more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous. Their IQs are about 10 to 15 points lower. Finally, they are more prone to childhood head injuries — which Cantor chalks up to a natural clumsiness.
These physical characteristics are determined before birth, so the explanation for pedophilia must be in part prenatal, Cantor says.
“It’s become harder and harder to explain pedophilia on just (early childhood events). It’s either purely biological or a mix of biological and experiential. But pure experience can’t explain these data.”
Cantor, an internationally respected clinical psychologist, has also conducted studies with sex offenders using MRIs. He has found they have less white matter — the connective tissue that carries messages to other parts of the brain — than other types of criminal offenders.
The evidence suggests pedophilia results from atypical wiring in the brain. Cantor calls it “cross-wiring”: the stimuli that usually evoke nurturing and protective reactions in adults is instead evoking sexual reactions in pedophiles.
Similar experiments are being conducted across the globe, most notably at Berlin’s Institute of Sexology and Sexual Medicine, but Cantor’s research has greatly influenced the view among researchers that pedophilia has a biological basis.
Pedophiles are thought to be overwhelmingly men. About a third of those men prefer boys, about a third prefer girls, and a third will be attracted to both.
Although female sex offenders exist, they are rare and it is more difficult to test their desires. Queen’s University sexologist Dr. Meredith Chiversconducted a similar genital-based test on women, but found, curiously, that females respond to everything — including images of bonobos copulating. (One theory is that during evolution, women developed this response as an automatic defence mechanism for rape.)
Some researchers disagree on whether the brain differences in pedophiles occurred before birth or in early development. Regardless, many are coming around to the view that pedophiles cannot be “cured” — but some can be stopped from molesting children.
Preventing child abuse
“Not all sex offenders who target children are pedophiles, and not all pedophiles are sex offenders,” says Dr. Michael Seto, a pedophilia expert and forensic researcher with the Royal Ottawa Health Care Group.
Seto, a former colleague of Cantor’s at CAMH, has found that only 50 to 60 per cent of convicted sex offenders are pedophiles. The rest have sexually abused children for reasons beyond attraction — personality disorders, chaotic households or violent impulses.
His research has focused on psychological traits shared by sex offenders, potentially providing insight into why some pedophiles molest children, while other “virtuous” pedophiles like Edwards are apparently able to control their urges.
Seto has found that sex offenders are much more likely to have a sexual abuse history than other types of criminal offenders. Certain traits, including impulsiveness, risk-taking behaviour, sexual preoccupation and lack of empathy, are also shared by sex offenders.
He has argued forcefully for pedophilia to be thought of as a sexual orientation — an idea he acknowledges is controversial, but hopes will actually help prevent child abuse.
“Right now, it’s really slanted so that the treatment services are for people who have gotten into trouble,” he says. “Obviously, we need that, but I think where there is a big gap is in terms of prevention. How do we reach people who are sexually attracted to children and are aware of it?”