Pete Rock Likes Twitter User-‘Only Nas would make 5 LP w/ The Least Inspired Producer of All Time" Tweet

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

1). Nas organically matches with any producer who inspires him. From 01-04 that producer was Salaam Remi. In 06 that Producer was Will I Am. In 2010 that Producer was Damien Marley. In 2012 it was the combination of Salaam Remi/No I.D. In the current era its Hit Boy

Whose names are missing from this list? I’ll let you use common sense to figure it out. Think REAL hard and you’ll get it champ.

Common sense tells me that, based on what you just wrote there, Nas can move on to different collaborators with ease and should have no problem finding a groove with another producer. I don't see any reason to believe Nas can't "organically match" with a producer other Than Hitboy. There's no reason any Nas fan is required to tie their wagon to the Hitboy train. Does Nas know you're the one who gets to decide who he "organically matches" with? When you say "Premo, Pete Rock, and Alchemist do NOT organically match up with Nas any longer," should Nas take it as a threat? Do you plan on hurting him if he goes against your narrative? Why don't you have a SNACK and take a NAP, because you SEEM a LITTLE unHINGED and probably need some REST.

2). Very recently is four years ago, on a Lost Tapes compilation, NOT a full on Nas album. These are songs that did NOT make actual Nas albums and some are upwards of 13 years old. The Pete Rock song The Art Of It was recorded for the OG Lost Tapes 2 in 2011 and QueensBridge Politics is an ode to Prodigy so we know that song had to have been recorded within the last two years of Lost Tapes 2 release so lets say 2018. Two years later Nas began what would become a run of 65 songs with Hit Boy, NOT Pete Rock, which if he was so “organically”’ meshing with he could’ve continued working with outside of ONE song recorded specifically for a COMPILATION of older records.

For one, you completely avoided responding to me pointing out Magic 1 is Nas creating the exact type of album you're claiming Nas would never make again. An album that we're not allowed to want from him any more, according to you. Two, clearly Nas doesn't agree with you that he's not allowed to connect with old collaborators again. Nothing you're saying negates the fact that Nas just dropped a more traditional boom bap album and has shown in the past his willingness to work with past collaborators. Reality does not fit your narrative. Pete Rock is a giant a$$hole and so they'll probably never work together again, but that has nothing to do about what Nas is or isn't open to creating soundwise.

3). I’m including Alchemist name because he’s become the new Coli poster boy for producers who could seemingly do a better job producing for Nas and frankly its an absurd notion when there is NO PROOF of this.

NO PROOF other than his vast discography and especially his work in recent years, but go off.

if you want to reference TWENTY YEAR OLD songs and say they were better, well that just makes you a “stuck in the 2000s” nikka instead of a 90’s one.

I don't need to go back twenty years when Alchemist has been consistently releasing music for over a decade. We don't need to guess if Alchemist is still a good producer or not, we can just listen to the massive amounts of material he is currently releasing and see that he is.

I’ve already outlined Nas work with Hit Boy versus Alchemist work with the MC’s he does full projects with and by ALL metrics one can use (Sales/Acclaim/Accolades) Nas/Hit Boy are above Alchemist/whatever pairing.

Which is false, and has been pointed out to you many times that Alc had a bigger hit with Johnny P's Caddy than anything Nas and HB have done together. Whatever excuses you want to make for it doesn't matter, reality does not fit your narrative. As I've told you before, I don't give a shyt about sales or accolades, just the quality of music. All of your ON and OFF capsLOCK is not going to make me give a shyt about any of that, so you can relax talking about sales. No one cares about that shyt but you.

See for ME its about enjoying what Nas puts out in the here and now. Not bytching about who he doesn’t work with or trying to pigeon hole him utilizing bullshyt rhetoric of whats “organic” when these entities haven’t appeared on official Nas albums in over TWENTY YEARS. Posters like you sound like Peter Rosenberg, trying to force a sound on an artist that they not rocking with anymore and then want to cry and post talk about how bumping One On One from the Street Fighter soundtrack 30 years ago makes you a real fan when really it just makes you look all the more pathetic

You're the one pigeonholing him. You're claiming Nas doesn't want to make that kind of music, when he clearly has already been doing just that. You're the one saying Nas can't collaborate with anyone other than Hitboy. People saying they don't like Hitboy's production is just their opinion. You saying Nas doesn't "organically match" with other producers is just some bullshyt you made up. You've never been in the studio with Nas and clearly have no idea what the fukk you're talking about. You like Hitboy. Good for you. Other people can have different opinions than you. That's normal. You don't need to start RANTING at Nas fans and shytTING on all of NAS' former COLLABORATORS and fukking UP the SHIFT key on all of your KEYBOARDS.

@Ziggiy thinks people who listen to old Nas joints are "pathetic" guys. Did you all read that? Listening to dope songs from the 90s makes you look pathetic according to @Ziggiy, so it must be fact. I repeat, listening to a song you personally enjoy makes you look pathetic, according to @Ziggiy. A man of sound mind, and decider of what makes a "real fan."

Bro, just let people have their opinions and preferences and stop trying to be Hitboy's one man defense team. This type of obsession can not be healthy. You look fukking crazy.

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Most these beats are just ite, nothing better than what Hitboy has been producing for Nas at all, if Nas listened to fans like y’all he would be Smoke Dza level, he don’t need to work with no Pete Rock, what GOAT rapper or current rapper has worked with him in the last 10 years ?

Different strokes for different folks.
But I don't know how you can front on that Smoke DZA/Benny joint where they're going back and forth like Styles and Jada, or the Smoke DZA Rick Ross joint.

Why would it matter to me what level he's at if the music is dope. I would still listen to Nas if he was Smoke DZA level. I really don't give a shyt about anything other than the music.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Nas literally has the most dusty ass stereotypical stanbase out of any of the GOAT rappers …whole contingency of B-Rabbit head ass nikkas …shyt is sad lol

Def not a Nas Stan. I like nas’ music but his ear for beats has always been average to me

 

[Piff Perkins]

Maybe Nas didn’t like it?

Again you can’t FORCE this stuff

Unsure if this is the one delivered but if it is...that's classic introspective Nas shyt.


If one of the top ten greatest producers of all time specifically made a beat for me in his prime, long before he passed, and his people brought it to me like it was a memorial flag for a WWII veteran lmao...I'd rap on it. Especially after showing respect and not doing what they typically/understandably do - heavily criticize people who rap over Dilla shyt that wasn't produced for them, which is what Nas did when he rapped over Gobstopper. That's a no brainer, given the level of respect shown and the high level of interest for Dilla shyt.

 

[King Ming]

"Ear for Beats"

New Nas album almost done

 

[Ziggiy]

Unsure if this is the one delivered but if it is...that's classic introspective Nas shyt.


If one of the top ten greatest producers of all time specifically made a beat for me in his prime, long before he passed, and his people brought it to me like it was a memorial flag for a WWII veteran lmao...I'd rap on it. Especially after showing respect and not doing what they typically/understandably do - heavily criticize people who rap over Dilla shyt that wasn't produced for them, which is what Nas did when he rapped over Gobstopper. That's a no brainer, given the level of respect shown and the high level of interest for Dilla shyt.

So again, he’s just SUPPOSED to rap over something because a legendary producer made it for him? If it doesn’t inspire him then it shouldn’t be forced, no matter the person or circumstances, these are artists we’re talking about. If Nas was in album mode and looking for a specific sound or in a certain mode when that beat was delivered, it might not have touched him CREATIVELY although i’m sure the gesture touched him personally. Gobstopper obviously moved something in him and it was fire, it was one of the few times he took a moment to directly address accusations and slander regarding his pen game. I’d rather Nas spit fire over a beat that moves him than some mid over a beat that he felt obligated to spit on. And I don’t remember there being any backlash over Nas spitting on that beat other than that one guy who worked for Dream Hampton who came on the coli and said Nas doesn’t do anything but sit around and smoke weed all day lol. He obviously got clearance from the estate AND went on to put out Dilla’s long awaited The Diary album on Mass Appeal. Sounds like Nas paid Jay homage and respect ten times over

 

[surv2syn]

I am not a fan of Nas/Hit. I liked His production on Burden better than any Nas/Hit project. Hit is ok. Pete Rock is capable still but his projects the past few years although containing some bangers just don’t do it for me for the entire project. The best producers for Nas are people we probably never heard of. His move to Hit was understandable as he was a successful producer, but imo Nas albums today just reaks of laziness. It’s super easy for him and Hit to do albums and they probably will do 10 total by the time it’s all said and done.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

I personally think Nas and Apollo Brown would make a killer album

 

[Consigliere]

Nas fans against Nas fans is much more interesting than Nas vs Jay.



Also Hit Boy should drop a Pete Rock diss track

 

[BlackMajik]

Loading Screen Beats tho

 

[Conan]

He shooting but nothing is landing

5 albums and not one song worth a damn for the culture. That’s a problem

Define the culture

 

[Icewatermetallik]

I agree in that sometimes I don't be feeling Hit's beats all that much, as they sound "tiny".....i dont know if it's his sample packs or plugins or the fact that he uses Fruity Loops but sometimes the beats don't sound professional and sound like they were made on a cheap Casio keyboard.

I would like to see Nas work more with Justice League, as their beats have that "epic" sound that would suit Nas really well. Like some of the beats they be giving Rick Ross...... Also maybe Apollo Brown too, as his kinda "dusty soul" style I also think would suit Nas well.

Hit-Boy might be a jack of all trades ( he can chop soul, or give you a trap beat). but he doesn't do any 1 thing really well.

 

[Cuban Pete]

This thread is going the way all Nas beat selection discussions go

People want Nas to work with fairly New York 90e retro based guys or underground soul guys. I dont even wanna call them boom bap cause thats putting them in a box

Which speaks to wanting that Illmatic experience. But he’s also a queens dude who’s outside and is just as much gonna hear or want something from the commercial or current guys as well as well as that classic sound hes used to (which is why I think he went full on with Hit after the Chauncey Hollis tape dropped when he initally just saw him for a couple of beats)


I wouldn’t say no to anyone yall picked that but at some point over the last 29 years knowing this I don’t see how he’d jump on a stones throw/conductor/ Daringer record for his own projects

He’ll definitely work with the producers you want for theirs or other peoples stuff or a Lost Tapes. We've had Nas rap over Pete Rock, Rza, Madlib, Alchemist, DJ Premier and Beatminerz records in the past 4 years

But knowing how he moves and how he'll look for someone with a more contemporary to the masses palette who can still get that 90s feel, thats who he'll get.

Before he got with Hit the only other person I would say is maybe Harry Fraud/Alchemist but theres the whole chemsitry lock down with someone thing as well.

So I dont know why you guys are setting yourselves for dissapointment when you've got in your head who he should rap with and anything that doesnt sound the same is asking to be let down

fukk the Illmatic experience I want the Stillmatic/Gods Son experience again, he needs beats with BITE, some AGGRESSIVE shyt. I kinda miss Salaam Remi off that vibe. Hit Boy is a once in a generation talent and he should be Nas main producer from here on out but even the Magic beats which are kinda dark all sound like neo boom bap versions of what Hit THINKS is some grimey/soulful shyt. I dont hear a beat like Made You Look or Thiefs Theme on these albums. A face scruncher. He has a great amount of variety but the projects are all starting to blend in at this point. I dont wanna feel bored about an upcoming Nas release, and working with a single producer for 5 albums is boring.

Matter fact fukk all the Pete Rock and Alchemist discussions, you know who I need to see Nas work with? HAVOC.

 

[Mike Wins]

Define the culture

I seen you ask this like a dozen times and they NEVER have an answer

 

[diggy]

Make my beats _______?