Phonte Sends message To Fans & ABB Records - "We Havent Seen a Dollar | Update : IGTV vid

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I’m real curious if we ever worked together at any point. I’m positive we had to have been in some studios together, or at the very least at some live shows together.

It's definitely possible.

I was down there with Kaze and Pooh all the time, heavy, until around '08. But I still catch up with all of them mad often.
 

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How exactly was it Phonte burning the bridges when he’s still highly respected and spoken of by his peers today? Who has any bad thing to say about Phonte?

Peers and industry executives aren't the same people. There's a gang of rappers who blew up using the formula that Phonte created, from Drake to J. Cole, to Wale, to Big Sean.... all of them owe and credited Phonte as an influence. Phonte had the potential to be UP THERE in the same levels of success as those dudes, but he kept bucking against the people that could've positioned him to those opportunities of success. And it mostly was due to how Minstrel Show flopped. He felt jaded from that and shunned many golden opportunities that could of helped him blow.
 

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9th can’t even accept being wrong about shyt. Bink was even tryna school him when it came to his Blueprint anniversary post but the nikka was in there going back n forth with Bink. Lol. He was also going back n forth with fans as well cause they was checkin him on his post.
Link that if it's still around.
 

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Bro. No, I didn’t make that nuanced argument because the crux of my first post in here wasn’t even about that. It’s about fans inability to fight these fights for them. Whether they abstain from the music or not doesn’t affect the fight for control

This is a lot simpler than you seem to be seeing it.

At this point, Little Brother would be viewed by most labels/distributors as a legacy act. Basically, whatever their core listener base is is bring in streaming (and in this situation vinyl) revenue for the nominal cost of whatever clerical work is occasionally required to keep the rights in house. All they really have to do to justify keeping the rights are occasionally special releases like this that will spike sales, and then just let streaming cover the rest.

Phone and Pooh are really just attempting to weaponize said base to distress the value of those two albums to the point where selling the rights back, or letting them revert is smartest option. This is a somewhat well known business strategy.
 

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The point is that now that artists have direct ways of interacting with their fans there is a modicum of leverage, no matter how small. An artist can say “don’t mess with X,Y,Z cause they screwing me over” and if even 1,000 fans listen, thats 1000 sales that that entity loses out on.


You can see that other artists such as Masta Ace, Questlove, etc are retweeting Phonte and Pooh spreading the word. You’d be surprised the power a few retweets can wield


Basically the Dave Chappelle approach... which if I had to guess, probably didn't even drastically effect actual consumption of the show for...but the public shaming and negative attention was enough to make the relevant parties concede and do right by Dave

And really, what's the risk vs reward from LB'S perspective? They're not making a dime off those projects already, what do they even have to lose?
 

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Their best work were with 9th or around the that era:francis:

The Minstrel Show best beat was Lovin It:francis:


I’m probably one of the biggest Justus League fans on here got all their music and thoroughly listen to all their shyt and I gotta say LB music Get Back and beyond is average as fukk. They need dope production seriously, I’m sad they don’t see any money off their first two albums. Those early Justus League tracks from Median to Joe Scudda really helped me when I was battling depression on sum real shyt. I don’t have to stream their music as I own all of it plus the NC mixtapes.
 
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Their best work were with 9th or around the that era:francis:

The Minstrel Show best beat was Lovin It:francis:


I’m probably one of the biggest Justus League fans on here got all their music and thoroughly listen to all their shyt and I gotta say LB music Get Back and beyond is average as fukk. They need dope production seriously, I’m sad they don’t see any money off their first two albums. Those early Justus League tracks from Median to Joe Scudda really helped me when I was battling depression on sum real shyt. I don’t have to stream their music as I own all of it plus the NC mixtapes.


There’s nothing average about Charity Starts At Home, No News Is Good News, or May The Lord Watch


May The Lord Watch is their produced work since Minstrel Show
 
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