Pitchfork gives Yeezus a 9.5

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you don't get "blackballed", from writing reviews..

where do yall come up with this shyt at..? :laff:

Blackballed too extreme?

Ok, the general point that was brought up was that writers who may have unfavorable reviews of the album probably won't get published in anything major, or even lose work/connects for outright shytting on a particular album. You can agree or disagree with that notion that but I don't think that sounds too far fetched.
 

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Listen to some Afrika Bambaataa, some Krs, some N.W.A., Beastie Boys, RUN-DMC.. The beat switches, the minimalism, the dirty mixing, the layers of the different sound being cut clean as fukk, the experimenting and on.. A lot of 80s inspiration album on this album, it doesn't sound like it's from the 80s (more like the 80s, than the modern music was the full sentence but I was too lazy on the iPad).

I dont see in any way how this album resembles the artists you mentioned. Sounds like youre just throwing shyt out there and trying to believe it yourself.

A polished-but-messy mix is not a trait of the 80s or any era for that matter. Its an aesthetic thats existed...basically forever, and every genre has taken a stab at it. The Cool Kids had an actual 80s wave going for a bit.

Its like people are just parroting what they "think" this album is now to give reasoning to why its incredible and why its detractors are ignorant to its "rich influences".

I do not hear Straight Outta Compton, Licensed to Ill or Raising Hell here, at all at all. I hear nods to 70s prog rock, some dancehall vibes and a bunch of acid-house experiments with "rap" vocals over them
 

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I dont see in any way how this album resembles the artists you mentioned. Sounds like youre just throwing shyt out there and trying to believe it yourself.

A polished-but-messy mix is not a trait of the 80s or any era for that matter. Its an aesthetic thats existed...basically forever, and every genre has taken a stab at it

Its like people are just parroting what they "think" this album is now. I do not hear Straight Outta Compton, Licensed to Ill or Raising Hell here, at all at all. I hear nods to 70s prog rock, some dancehall vibes and a bunch of acid-house experiments with "rap" vocals over them
So all you hear is music from the samples, I'm talking about music that sampled what you hear. Like when I hear BP, I can hear some old Pharcyde, Rza, some Dr. Dre drums etc I don't hear The Intruders, Ohio Players, Al Green and on.
 

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So all you hear is music from the samples, I'm talking about music that sampled what you hear. Like when I hear BP, I can hear some old Pharcyde, Rza, some Dr. Dre drums etc I don't hear The Intruders, Al Green and on.
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If you like the album, great. Youre absolutely entitled to that and dont have to explain yourself....but the notion that someone having an issue with this fellating pathetic excuse for a "music review" and the overall critical circle-jerk surrounding this album, is them being a "hater" or being too conservative and ignorant to other genres and eras is retarded
 

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If you like the album, great. Youre absolutely entitled to that and dont have to explain yourself....but the notion that someone having an issue with this fellating pathetic excuse for a "music review" and the overall critical circle-jerk surrounding this album, is them being a "hater" or being too conservative and ignorant to other genres and eras is retarded
True, I explained myself on that. I was referring to certain posters on the coli and certain other posters who I don't know just had such weak reasoning to where it couldn't be explained as anything else than hate. I still believe that people who are conservative in their taste of hiphop, won't like this. Now if it's a two-way casual relationship, is obviously not true, it just might be with some posters on here.
 

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True, I explained myself on that. I was referring to certain posters on the coli and certain other posters who I don't know just had such weak reasoning to where it couldn't be explained as anything else than hate. I still believe that people who are conservative in their taste of hiphop, won't like this. Now if it's a two-way casual relationship, is obviously not true, it just might be with some posters on here.

I think someone whos conservative-anything will prolly hate this album though. If anything, your average hip-hop fan has a better chance of liking it than a casual listener. But yeah, some rap fans are sticks-in-the-mud, like any other genre
 

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This is exactly what I mean by reasoning, "recreate" what the fukk is that?

I can recreate e=mc^2 as well, doesn't mean that I can fukking invent it.


And I don't know why you keep comparing it to TNGHT, Daft Punk or now even Marilyn Manson. I thought we were talking about hiphop here. There is not comparison, unless you have hiphop beats they've done before. Hudson Mohawke has some dope hiphop production, but nothing really classic or anything. I would say that Blood on the leaves might be his best beat, that's just me though.


Also know that I already called this Yeezys weakest album after 808s and that I don't agree with pitchforks high rating.

this shyt is hiphop in the loosest sense of the term man :pachaha:

and this isn't even the first time a mc has attempted something like this. Hell, death grips comes right to mind...

and likening recreating Albert Einstein's benchmark theory to 4 different entities needing to get together and loop a ponderosa twins sample is why nikkas CAN'T EVER TAKE STANS SERIOUSLY.:laff:
 
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Blackballed too extreme?

Ok, the general point that was brought up was that writers who may have unfavorable reviews of the album probably won't get published in anything major, or even lose work/connects for outright shytting on a particular album.

the point doesn't make sense.. whatsoever..

controversy sells.. if someone has a controversial outlook on something, they don't get blackballed.. they get more work..

you think only favorable reviews run for everything..? :laff:
 

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Kanye West: Yeezus | Album Reviews | Pitchfork

For starters, the track sounds less triumphant than breathtakingly vexed, starting with a gnarled dancehall vocal sample and paranoid sawtooth synths that aim to destroy.

Am I the only person that hates when reviews describe music like this? A gnarled dancehall vocal sample? Why not explain the words, why it would be placed in front of the song and the emotion you're supposed to feel.

Honestly, that's probably what I hate most about music reviews. There is a science to this shyt. They're never as in depth or about the music as I'd like. :manny:
 
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Nothing about this record is minimalist. It's loud, bombastic and in your face, quite the opposite of minimal. It's gonna drive me crazy If people keep calling it minimalistic
 

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I'm not feeling what you are saying, you are just saying hateful shyt.

Just from this post, hate is:

1. The contradiction in "This is trash ---> this is okey at best."
2. He's trying to make thriller.
3. He sounds like an amateur.
4. This album is for people who have no identity in themselves.
5. Daft Punk can do 20 times better (I didn't know they produced hiphop songs before, besides a remix of their own song).
6. People who like the music are idiots, yet you demand people to respect that you hate the album.

I mean this whole post is absolutely shyt, worthless, not anything said is worth more than 0/10 on the pitchfork scale.

As explained I respect everyones opinion, I don't respect reasoning. Big ass difference. I don't respect anyone calling Kanye's work amateurish. And me generalizing people into different categories is solely based on posters I know on The Coli. As far as calling out hate, there's a difference between saying I don't like this type of music, music with non-superb lyrics, too many mashed up sounds or whatever the fukk. Saying shyt like this is trash, anyone who likes is stupid and it's sounds amateurish same with (the generally considered classic) MBDTF.


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If you go...on spotufy or wherever the fukk and listen to a daft punk album all the way through...

you will see that this record is amateur compared to what they have done before

the reason so many of us are disappointed is because no matter the style of hip hop or music he has done so much better lyrically and production wise its really not comparable.

This IS his worst produced album, His lyrics are AMATEUR hour, HIS CONCEPTS AND TRANSISTIONS have been done before but 10 times better by other artists that HE is trying to emulate...


but you wouldn't know that because this is your first time hearing songs like these while other people on the board has heard sh1t like this since the turn of the millennium.



IM not demanding people respect anything, my whole original argument was against your wishy washy statement that posters who like this are usually this or that.

Ultimately this album lacks soul and direction.


Lets CALL this album for what it really is.... dark twisted and 808 leftovers with a couple of shining tracks that should have been saved for a more complete album that we hold kanye to.


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you're gonna want to read this

he doesn't like yeezus either

dude why didn't you make a thread about this review

this is EXACTLY what people need to read....this is the exact type of discussion I would hope would come from a forum on music

Someone who actually dissects and understands the music. Thanks breh.
 
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