Played the Destiny Beta... I'm sick and tired of these MMO's and Multiplayer game bullshyts.

[lutha]

And you can "get a great feel" of how the narrative will be presented in a game even if you don't play through the entire story.

What you are doing here is the equivalent of me telling you "how can you like the guns when you have not used them all"

presentation doesnt equal story, that's what you dont seem to understand...presentation is the things and method used to execute telling of said story, but its not the story....my original post was in response to people talking about the story, not the presentation.....

lol aight man....

 

[MeachTheMonster]

i havent ignored it, you just werent the only one talking about the story though....but i guess you speaking for everyone

I'm speaking for me, and if you look at the complaints.

"The concept of destiny could be greater of a solo campaign wherein you and 2 characters that cross your path go on a journey throughout the solar system blowing shyt up and beating the bad guys, all the while following the story of what the guardian is, and what is the shadows and other aliend races doing chasing it..."

People aren't talking about the narrative, but about the way the story/campaign is presented.

lol if you say so man...presentation helps, so do other things, but the story doesnt equal those things...you trying to put all those things under the story umbrella as if they are one, and they arent.....it's a reason people were able to have a live show of the story and people praised it....

They fit under that umbrella when talking about a video game.

couple i got that i remember off hand: meeting the speaker and being followed by a guardian...

You mean the dialog with the dude on the tower, and the quick shot of some mystery dude watching you?

Yeah now compare those to ANY other FPS and see how lacking they are.

couple different ways: how we attacked things (as a group/1 by 1); where people attacked from (high/low ground; close/far)....

Yeah hiding and shooting more.

again: the type of game, the gameplay, mechanics, etc.; doesnt equal the story of the game....like i said above: you trying to put all these differet things under a story umbrella, and it doesnt work like that.....cause my initial post was commenting on how some were talking about the story of the game, not all the other things you want to include...

And I'm explaining to you that people are not just talking about the narrative. They are talking about the entire package.

 

[lutha]

I'm speaking for me, and if you look at the complaints.

"The concept of destiny could be greater of a solo campaign wherein you and 2 characters that cross your path go on a journey throughout the solar system blowing shyt up and beating the bad guys, all the while following the story of what the guardian is, and what is the shadows and other aliend races doing chasing it..."

People aren't talking about the narrative, but about the way the story/campaign is presented.

They fit under that umbrella when talking about a video game.

You mean the dialog with the dude on the tower, and the quick shot of some mystery dude watching you?

Yeah now compare those to ANY other FPS and see how lacking they are.

Yeah hiding and shooting more.

And I'm explaining to you that people are not just talking about the narrative. They are talking about the entire package.

ok, when talking for you, and talking about the presentation, i have nothing to say....you dont like the presentation, ok...

others werent just talking about presentation....if they were, i wouldnt have made the initial comment i made...

no they dont...they dont fit under 1 umbrella when talking about anything....cause the story doesnt mean presentation...presentation is the execution of telling said story....

those are cutscenes that were in the beta that you seemed to ignore...by the way, it wasnt a guy, it was a woman watching you....anyway, next time i participate in a fps beta, i'll compare them....until then, i'm not comparing a beta to a full, retail game...

so how you actually go about attacking the enemy is equilvalent to hiding/shooting more? lol ok....man, you play games in a very boring way lol...

just cause you are, doesnt mean they were....if they were, i wouldnt have made the initial comment i did...i do have reading comprehension skills....

 

[MeachTheMonster]

ok, when talking for you, and talking about the presentation, i have nothing to say....you dont like the presentation, ok...

others werent just talking about presentation....if they were, i wouldnt have made the initial comment i made...

I gave you a quote from the OP. even though he says "story" he's talking about so much more. @Loose and myself have said similar things. Who is it that you are referring too?

no they dont...they dont fit under 1 umbrella when talking about anything....cause the story doesnt mean presentation...presentation is the execution of telling said story....

And when people say "_______ has a great story" they are not just talking about the narrative.

those are cutscenes that were in the beta that you seemed to ignore...by the way, it wasnt a guy, it was a woman watching you....anyway, next time i participate in a fps beta, i'll compare them....until then, i'm not comparing a beta to a full, retail game...

I didn't ignore them, I forgot they existed cause they were just that good.

The destiny beta is exactly how the game will play out for the first couple hours, compare that to the first few hours of any other FPSz

so how you actually go about attacking the enemy is equilvalent to hiding/shooting more? lol ok....man, you play games in a very boring way lol...

No. Your motivation for doing so was solely because the enemy has a larger health bar and outputs more damage. Not because he offered a different challenge than other enemies.

just cause you are, doesnt mean they were....if they were, i wouldnt have made the initial comment i did...i do have reading comprehension skills....

Read the posts, and stop concentrating on the word story.

 

[Loose]

So we have to play entire games to know story concepts is ass nowadays? You nikkas are fukking clowns

 

[Killer Instinct]

I lone wolfed the entire beta campaign without any problem. The couple of folks I did see were together and went their own way. By no means am I a big multi-player kind of guy, but I don't believe it'll be a problem in this particular game.

 

[lutha]

I gave you a quote from the OP. even though he says "story" he's talking about so much more. @Loose and myself have said similar things. Who is it that you are referring too?

And when people say "_______ has a great story" they are not just talking about the narrative.

I didn't ignore them, I forgot they existed cause they were just that good.

The destiny beta is exactly how the game will play out for the first couple hours, compare that to the first few hours of any other FPSz

No. Your motivation for doing so was solely because the enemy has a larger health bar and outputs more damage. Not because he offered a different challenge than other enemies.

Read the posts, and stop concentrating on the word story.

did you read the op's original post? it's talking about the story, not the presentaiton...

Alot of gamers care about the characters in which they play just look at the reboot tomb raider and the last of us and the abrupted poorly ending of the mass effect series...
The story DOES matter...
I look at games like titanfall and see guys falling over playing this repetitive multiplayer only garbage, Jeezus where does it end, why dont these devs realize the reason the game sucks is because your not giving players a choice and games where it's large in scope deserves a story to uphold it. Just imagine Gears with no backstory, halo with no backstory...
A war story without background is horrible. You need to KNOW, why your character fights, why he exists, the protagonists, antagonists, I mean is that all we as gamers want is to play some bullshyt that pc gamers love with no end.
That's why i fear what Destiny will become a game without any end, in which all DLC will have a high proce tag in which we all see us as gamers line up with credit cards screaming take our money.
These devs are halfassing us as gamers over these games, where does it end? If im gonna be shelling out $60-$80 for a game let it be a game i enjoy and REMEMBER!

^^^ that's from the post...i'll go back and find others for you

now they arent...when people talk about the story, they are talking about the story....it's a reason people say such and such has a good story, but it was poorly presented...

so since you didnt like them, they didnt exist? lol ok...

the beta wasnt a couple hours though....where are you getting that number from?....we got probably 30-45 mins (not including the strike mission) of the story....now, after i put a couple hours into destiny, i'll tell you how the story is...if i like it, i'll say so; if i dont, i'll say so...right now, i dont have enough of the story to say either way....i'm just curious about the story at this point....

lol if you say so....

think you need to take your own advice...my posts comment on what i'm quoting or talking about....you on the other hand, pick something out a post and go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with said post.....prime example: our exchange....

 

[MeachTheMonster]

did you read the op's original post? it's talking about the story, not the presentaiton...

You bolded the word story and ignore the rest of the context

now they arent...when people talk about the story, they are talking about the story....it's a reason people say such and such has a good story, but it was poorly presented...

Never heard anyone say that about a game

so since you didnt like them, they didnt exist? lol ok...

No. They were so uninteresting that I forgot they happened. And neither were during a mission as you claimed.

the beta wasnt a couple hours though....where are you getting that number from?....we got probably 30-45 mins (not including the strike mission) of the story....now, after i put a couple hours into destiny, i'll tell you how the story is...if i like it, i'll say so; if i dont, i'll say so...right now, i dont have enough of the story to say either way....i'm just curious about the story at this point....

compare the opening scenes to other games.

lol if you say so....

You know it's true, don't try to deflect with that "if you say so" shyt. The bosses are EXACTLY like any other enemy, except they have a larger health/armor bars.

think you need to take your own advice...my posts comment on what i'm quoting or talking about....you on the other hand, pick something out a post and go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with said post.....prime example: our exchange....

you quoted me

 

[GulfCoastGhost]

All that typing and Bungie doesn't consodee it a MMO so not to lead on people like yourself

 

[lutha]

You bolded the word story and ignore the rest of the context


Never heard anyone say that about a game

No. They were so uninteresting that I forgot they happened. And neither were during a mission as you claimed.

compare the opening scenes to other games.

You know it's true, don't try to deflect with that "if you say so" shyt. The bosses are EXACTLY like any other enemy, except they have a larger health/armor bars.

you quoted me

I bolded what his post was about....read the whole thing again, especially everything from the 'the story does matter'....it's him talking about games telling a good story....like I asked: did you read the op's post?...cause it seems like you didn't...

if you say so, but next time you hear someone talk about the story, listen and pay attention to what they say...I bet they talk about the story and presentation separately....

so, you forget they happened, but you can recall they werent in mission? lol ok....let me remind you: going to see the dude in the tower was after the first mission (the point of me mentioning it was to show it wasn't ghost, mission, ghost, mission as you said)....the chick following you was in the moon mission, right after you reached the temple door, before you fought the hive hoard....

so it went from compare the first couple hours to the beta, to compare the opening scenes?...lol come on man...

it's not true....before the free roam opens up: the sphere wasn't like any other enemy; the devil walker wasn't like any other enemy; the cap at the end of the first mission wasn't like any other enemy; the hive knight wasn't like any other enemy; the wizard wasn't like any other enemy; the drones weren't like any other enemy....would you like me to keep going?...

I quoted you cause your post right underneath mine was in relation to my post....again: lol come on man....

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I bolded what his post was about....read the whole thing again, especially everything from the 'the story does matter'....it's him talking about games telling a good story....like I asked: did you read the op's post?...cause it seems like you didn't...

Yeah I read it. He says the story is like an MMO. And why do people not like MMO stories?

Because the presentation is disjointed and shallow by nature.

so, you forget they happened, but you can recall they werent in mission? lol ok....let me remind you: going to see the dude in the tower was after the first mission (the point of me mentioning it was to show it wasn't ghost, mission, ghost, mission as you said)....the chick following you was in the moon mission, right after you reached the temple door, before you fought the hive hoard....

Now compare those cutscenes to other FPSs

so it went from compare the first couple hours to the beta, to compare the opening scenes?...lol come on man...

You keep claiming we have not played enough to compare, compare what you can. You won't because you know what I'm saying is true.

The only reason a person would ever come with the "it's not the final game" defense is because you can't deny the context of what I'm saying

it's not true....before the free roam opens up: the sphere wasn't like any other enemy; the devil walker wasn't like any other enemy; the cap at the end of the first mission wasn't like any other enemy; the hive knight wasn't like any other enemy; the wizard wasn't like any other enemy; the drones weren't like any other enemy....would you like me to keep going?...

How did they behave differently than other enemy's?

I quoted you cause your post right underneath mine was in relation to my post....again: lol come on man....

And I told you exactly where I was coming from but you continued to ignore it.

 

[lutha]

I'm with you, it does need a story and single-player mode.

IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?!?!?

A game of this magnitude would have been epic for it moreso...

fukk what everyone else is talking about.... i agree with you...

it's like 2 player games... slowly they just died off.. unless it's a fighter or a sports game, they are pretty much dead... i knew it was over when racing games weren't even two player anymore


the cod came and made 1 player minimal.. but at least they had it... now they pushing multiplayer only games, but charging the same damn price

so you charging me $60 for a long ass game like skyrim... then charging me $60 for titanfall which is basically a 8 map game... then come back around and charge me another 19-29 for every 4 maps you drop


it's all about the cash... if they don't have to take time paying someone to write, or voice act, or even program that whole side of the game, then they make more profit... not to mention you need that gold/ps plus membership so they getting money there too

that's why they had to put all their apps behind a paywall at first.. cause they know damn well people who didn't play online, wouldn't pay for it unless it meant no apps either... soon as they came down, my subscriptions got cancelled with the quickness

it's exactly why every game has some shytty multiplayer jammed in there for absolutely no reason... who's actually out here playing assassins creed multiplayer

gta multiplayer was supposed to be

and ended up letting everyone and their mother down.... when realistically, a 2 player gta would have done a LOT more for the genre


MMO's actually do have a story to them.. so i wouldn't mind that.. like the next skyrim if i could do all those missions but still have online players with me.... but this "lets play 8 maps and do the same thing for 10 hours a day" i've never gotten into it.. no matter how many times i've tried... i have played every cod and battlefield and haven't leveled a full player yet... shyt is boring after 3 months

destiny has a story and you can play it alone if you want to

/thread

@MeachTheMonster

I said I would find other posts talking about the story, i'm a man of my word, here you go.....these all before the thread started talking about titanfall....and what my initial post was in response to....have a good day...

 

[MeachTheMonster]

It has a story. Every game has a story. Space invaders has a story

But it doesn't have a traditional campaign. Which is what they are talking talking about when they say. "It needs a story and a single player campaign. You would call that "presentation"

Thanks for proving my point

 

[lutha]

It has a story. Every game has a story. Space invaders has a story

But it doesn't have a traditional campaign. Which is what they are talking talking about when they say. "It needs a story and a single player campaign.

Thanks for proving my point

they weren't talking about campaigns, they were talking about the story.....I swear, you need help lol...but whatever, i'm off work, no need to pass the time, have a good one...

 

[MeachTheMonster]

they weren't talking about campaigns, they were talking about the story.....I swear, you need help lol...but whatever, i'm off work, no need to pass the time, have a good one...

They said it doesn't have a story. Why? Because people think of "story" as very different in the context of games.

You have a good one too