Please help me understand why socialism is a bad thing.

[CHL]

Be ignorant, brehs.

Worker cooperatives = total State control

 

[Dr. Acula]

Worker cooperatives = total State control

Ask cultural revolutionary China about worker cooperatives on a wide spread scale breh. At the end of the day it was still controlled by the state because you need centralization for it to work in the benefit of all. You can't have a complete system of cooperatives without some state control at the end of day. Who would watch the watchmen in this case ? More than likely a centralized body like ... The state. Otherwise I don't see it working. I know we have a few here in the US like fat tire brewery but I get the impression you guys want to change the whole system. Educate me breh on what you personally believe if I'm wrong on what I think you're aiming for. This thead is full of one liner replies tbh.

I agree with socialized aspects of society and believe some public functions can and only should be socialized (schools, military, law enforcement , etc) and have no problem with cooperatives for example in individual cases like what I said above with fat tire.

 

[Dr. Acula]

i mean i dont want pure socialism, but i still think we need the benefits. especially the direction this country is headed

Don't disagree. You can take from both sides

 

[DEAD7]

Most of the problem is you refuse to just define basic terms first.

Is this your first time here?

 

[DEAD7]

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Fundamentally, making all sorts of other things "free"(American socialism) means more of those things being wasted...

It also has not been successfully implemented(on a large scale) anywhere ever... and attempts at it have ended awfully.

 

[SirReginald]

Please don't try to answer my question with a question.

That's when the start deflecting. I mean like you said, just answer the damn question.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

None and I say that with the notion that America isn't a completely capitalist economy structure

So we agree your argument is dumb as fukk right?

 

[plushcarpet]

no matter which way you spin it, socialism takes away personal freedoms to private property

simple as that

 

[CHL]

no matter which way you spin it, socialism takes away personal freedoms to private property

simple as that

Capitalists exploit workers and steal the fruits of their labour.

Simple as that

 

[MouseTeeth]

Socialism, no matter how great it sounds in theory, always fails.

Capitalism, though flawed, is the only system that works long term. However, its important to have some socialist safety nets in place to make sure people can't take advantage. I think the ideal scenario would be a healthy, balanced mixture or both capitalism and socialism. I also have no idea what i'm talking about so take this how you will.

 

[CACtain Planet]

So we agree your argument is dumb as fukk right?

Nope because no form of pure socialism will work in this country

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Nope because no form of pure socialism will work in this country

I've never heard anyone advocate for "pure socialism"

 

[CACtain Planet]

I've never heard anyone advocate for "pure socialism"

Ive heard plenty on thecoli.com

 

[ill]

Capitalists exploit workers and steal the fruits of their labour.

Simple as that

Why don't you have a "Supporter" tag under your name

Why are you stealing the fruit of this websites labor without contributing your fair share

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Socialism does not necessarily mean State ownership of the means of production

That is LITERALLY what socialism means

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so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.