PLEASE HELP. My tenants organized and are saying they won't pay rent this month. ALL OF THEM.

[southern.girl]

I didn’t even make that post, I just quoted it. But the books and verses start at Micah 2:1 and Isaiah 5:8. Rationalize who it talks about with your carnal mind and make excuses all you want, but I’m not who or what you’re going to have to explain your logic to.

To address your third point, YAH very much does have a problem with rich people and makes it very clear in many instances. I’ll start with Mark 10:17-25 which splits no hairs about the rich.

Mark 10:23-25
23Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God!” 24This amazed them. But Jesus said again, “Dear children, it is very hard to enter the Kingdom of God. 25In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!”

James 1:11
For the sun rises with its scorching heat and withers the grass; its flower falls, and its beauty perishes. So also will the rich man fade away in the midst of his pursuits.

James 5:1
Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you.

Proverbs 28:22
A stingy man hastens after wealth and does not know that poverty will come upon him.

Psalm 62:10

Put no trust in extortion; set no vain hopes on robbery; if riches increase, set not your heart on them.


Here are some more to dispel the lie that HE doesn’t have a problem with the rich.
Matthew 6:19-24, Matthew 6:31-34, Luke 1:50-55, James 5:1-6, Luke 16:19-31, Hebrews 13:5, 1 Timothy 6:6-10, 1 Timothy 6:17-19, Mark 12:41-44, Proverbs 19:17, Luke 6:24-26, Proverbs 23:4-5, Ecclesiastes 5:10, and I can do this al day.

King David distributed his wealth accordingly so as to leave no one in need of anything like in Luke 3:11 which says
Luke 3:11

And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”

He took care of his people as he should have with those riches which is a different kind of “rich” that surpasses material wealth. Job provided for those he could as well, apples to oranges with your worldly version of rich.

HE loves the righteous rich which are pretty much non-existent. If you have a home you live in and another you rent for more than it costs you monthly in expenses then it’s crooked riches you’re receiving or what’s known as extortion. You have to let people eat from your plate if you’re up. I know it’s hard to understand with a worldly mind, but does that explain it well enough for you?

Many of these scriptures do not apply to the landlord in the OP because they are seemingly not a gouging slumlord.

Also, Romans 13:8 says Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. If those tenants elect not to pay rent, the most certainly would owe back rent...and depending how the courts would handle this after the eviction halt is lifted, late fees & court fees too.

Proverbs 24:27 says Prepare your work outside; get everything ready for yourself in the field, and after that build your house. Basically, we all, myself included, need to be better prepared for a rainy day. After this season passes, we should be more diligent about having at least three months savings. I get that it is hard, but the battle is not with independent landlords. Coming together to close the wealth gap by way of increased wages & 1% taxes is a much better, long term solve for this.

 

[Pazzy]

My people decided to do promissory notes against my advice but it’s there decision

A couple of these buzzards work in healthcare so I know they’re still working




Or just don’t live in those places live the vast majority of people you entitled moron

if you can afford “overpriced” rent then you can afford to move...you’re the only coward here because this way of thinking relies on legal protections to help you. Landlord come bust your head and throw you out you ain’t doing shyt but running to the police...

Okay, mr gym bob.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Only thing you’ll do is take what the local laws of the land gives you, or you’ll be locked up and the people who you threaten will buy it.

You right.

If they want to renew their lease I would increase rent and force everyone to buy high ass renters insurance or they can fully gtfo

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

quick question about this

wont the landlords just evict everyone? because there are prolly some potential tenants who WILL pay the rent, right? the striking tenants can just be replaced.

In this climate, they'd be shooting themselves in da foot. Da media would be all over it and subsequently, no one would wanna rent from them again, potentially.

 

[5n0man]

Coli dudes taking political advice from cacs and Indians. @the cac mamba @śïñe•qúå_nøn

these two elitists are the worst .

I have suspicions that @the cac mamba is a trump supporter running a very elaborate troll job.

 

[Wild self]

I'll just throw this out there, didn't even think of it as a comparison because I never equate my situation with people living off of economic rents.

I'm paying all of my employees' full salaries throughout the shutdown. In fact for two of them I've already kicked in a little bit extra because I know their family don't got work no more and I'll be dammed if someone I see as my responsibility is fukked over in any way during this ordeal while I'm sitting here with more than I need.

I would think that should be the natural moral response of anyone in a good situation who is economically tied to someone in a bad situation. But we're in an age of entitled rich folk who love living off of economic rents so they obviously don't have the same sort of compassion or ethics to their business dealings.

They want to think that a life of excess at the expense of others, is the norm. They want to become the oppressor ans think that negative karma wont come back to harm them.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

This mindset is so common I give up lol. & Like the Hilarious thing is most Americans are NEVER 3 months away from being rich but they are 3 months away from poverty.

The poor hate themselves and won't even admit that they are poor. So they would rather believe in this fairytale of bootstraps and meritocracy. Meanwhile, rich people invest and ensure their progeny wealth. The only people who need to "work hard" are the poor. So delusional I can't.

A LOT of folks proclaim their disdain of peckerwoods & white supremacy on a daily basis only then to turn around and take on or adopt many of da views of those that they claim to hate and when that's pointed out, it's everyone else that has a problem except them.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I disagree with your interpretation of scripture entirely. For one, Leviticus is the book of law, which was fulfilled by Jesus crucifixion. But even with holding to said law (or rather obey His commands, which I have no problem with), the verses still describe price gouging and not a simple business transaction as described in this Reddit post. And if you are holding this scripture to the exact letter, are you observing the Sabbath every seventh year (aka, year of rest)? I find absolutely nothing wrong with that, btw, but one must have some level of financial freedom to adhere to this Leviticus scripture. The question is, if you're so against any form of capitalism, how did you arrive to such financial freedom?

Isaiah 5:8-10 again speaks to price gouging to the tune of pricing out your neighbors so much so that no one can afford property. There's a empty luxury apartment building across from the Staples Center in LA. It's less than 50% occupied b/c residents can't keep up with the COL. That extreme level of price gouging and the stubbornness to allow the building to remain empty is what this scripture speaks to...not an individual landlord who is worried about missing one month of rent.

And Micah is very clear that it speaks of evil wealthy men who think of evil plans...and not just men who are simply wealthy. Again, it is not irrational for a landlord to expect monthly rental payments. Truth be told, we don't even know how this landlord would have reacted to a small percentage of tenants inquiring about rent installments b/c said landlord wasn't given a change. Allegedly, all of the tenants banded together & determined that the landlord should pay for their housing, despite contracts, despite enduring the same Coronavirus pandemic, despite not knowing the profit margins or reserves, etc., etc. There are thieves in this scenario & this time, it's not the landlord.

All of my statements are under the assumption that this is not a slumlord.

How can you say that Isaiah and Micah are about "price gouging" when they're clearly both based on the Leviticus 25 command that every family has the right to their own land and that cannot be taken away from them? You can't say the rich made it so "no one in Israel can afford property" when property was already the BIRTHRIGHT of everyone in Israel, no matter how much money you had. An Israelite should not need to purchase land to claim their birthright. That's the entire point of Leviticus 25.

And yes, the Law is fulfilled in Jesus so we do not have to follow it ritually but the Law still demonstrate's Yahweh's intentions for the kind of life he wants his people to live. Just look at all these from the New Testament:

"Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys." - Luke 12

"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” - Matthew 19

"And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first." - Matthew 19

"All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need." - Acts 2

"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need." - Acts 4

"Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality. At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality, as it is written: “The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little.”" - 2 Corinthians 8

"If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth." - 1 John 3


It is abundantly clear from beginning to end. We are not to accumulate possessions in order to profit off of those with less than us. Instead, we are to redistribute what we have such that everyone has enough.

This is the EXACT issue I have with that man I was arguing with who says that he is against Black unity and feels no solidarity with his poor brothers. I believe our lives are tied together with our poor brothers. If we are profiting off of them, rather than sharing our blessings with them, something is incredibly wrong.

 

[Wild self]

You claimed I was a bum and that my life had been worthless...and I'm not supposed to respond with what I've actually done with my life? And that wasn't even the first time - you had repeatedly made up bullshyt lies about my personal situation because your ridiculous worldview tells you that only wealthy people have value and anyone caping for poor people must be poor themselves.

I don't live for a pat on the head, and I'd never expect to get one from such a self-centered person as you. I live for the uplift of the community. You wouldn't understand.





You said that Black folk aren't robbed of opportunities in America, that you have greater shared interests with your white counterparts than with impoverished members of the Black community, and that you oppose Black unity.

And as you admit I could pull a lot more than that - just do a search of your posts with "black" and it's all more of the same. Again, it says a lot about you.

Some of these "black" people in here want to be the oppressors and become the vulture capitalist that has no regulations.

 

[Wild self]

The Coli rich folk brigade.


"We're landlords and entrepreneurs, we know what's up cause we own shyt!"

"If you support renters then you must have a poor mentality."

"These idiots in here have zero business sense."

"We're not taking advantage of poor people, we're taking advantage of our superior knowledge and work ethic."



Also rich folk:

"PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAN THE GOVERNMENT BAIL US OUT FOR THE SECOND TIME IN TWELVE YEARS? OUR WHOLE SYSTEM THAT WE'VE DEVISED AND BRILLIANTLY MANAGED WITH OUR SUPERIOR FINANCIAL SENSE IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE IN A MATTER OF WEEKS UNLESS YOU DO IT!!!"

Some people just come with the guns blazing

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

In this climate, they'd be shooting themselves in da foot. Da media would be all over it and subsequently, no one would wanna rent from them again, potentially.

Man nobody cares... People are out here who have to pay their rent and don't have a choice. People who are renting homes out and don't have 2-3 months to allow someone else to not pay any bills. These people are going to get thrown the fukk out. Either by the landlord or by the bank after they kick the landlord out.

I don't know where we get this idea that people actually care about other people. People are being thrown out already and the news doesn't give a solitary fukk. And neither does anyone else besides some free tweets and internet concern that doesn't cost time or money. When it comes down to it, it's every man to themselves. And if I'm getting pressed to pay my bills, and you live there, you getting pressed too... Or getting the fukk out... Or I'll just keep reporting to your credit and you'll be fukked that way... Same way my bank is going to do to me

fukk the media

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Honestly being a landlord is always a gamble. We all have been told/taught that the easier way to wealth is owning property and let other people pay for it. But the downside is that you got to deal with people who don’t pay. It’s all in the game if u ask me

And when they don't pay, they get out... Then you move in someone else who will pay....

I mean I'm not seeing what people are upset about? Nobody told you to live where you live. You want cheaper, you may have to move further than you want.. Why? Cause more people want it and so it's more money. It ain't rocket science. Get you a nice rental in the country and drive an hour to work. Oh you don't want to do that but also want to live 5 minutes from Manhattan. Ummmmm nah.. Better take your ass to Yonkers. Or pay the price.

Oh but it's a basic need. So is water. You can get it free or pay $150 a bottle... Your choice. You can live in a $2000 1 bed or you can live in a $400 shytty apt or a $600 house 60 mins away... Your choice. Your name on the lease. You literally signing up for it. Unless they are some slum lord and not holding up their end of the bargain, you shouldn't have any complaints

This is America... Nobody gives a fukk about your problems

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Coli dudes taking political advice from cacs and Indians. @the cac mamba @śïñe•qúå_nøn

these two elitists are the worst .

I have suspicions that @the cac mamba is a trump supporter running a very elaborate troll job.

@the cac mamba admitted that he voted for Trump in 2016. Economically he's basically a Trumper, he just doesn't like how offensive and racist Trump is, so in 2020 he's trying to push up the Democrat most similar to Trump in everything but that.

@śïñe•qúå_nøn cosplays as an establishment Democratic operative who works for the rich and privileged. He would rather see Trump hold onto power than see wealthy establishment Democrats take a back seat to anyone who actually gave a shyt about the Black community or the poor.

A LOT of folks proclaim their disdain of peckerwoods & white supremacy on a daily basis only then to turn around and take on or adopt many of da views of those that they claim to hate and when that's pointed out, it's everyone else that has a problem except them.

I talk about this all the time. Poster here will literally say, "But White people do this so we should do it!" That @87 others guy explicitly said that Black folk should move like White people and give up any community solidarity or anything other than self-centered motives. fukking Ayn Rand-type shyt. Why would you want to BE like them?

 

[5n0man]

@the cac mamba admitted that he voted for Trump in 2016. Economically he's basically a Trumper, he just doesn't like how offensive and racist Trump is, so in 2020 he's trying to push up the Democrat most similar to Trump in everything but that.

I believe it's more elaborate than that.

Dude went hard for Bernie last time around and turned into one of those "Bernie bros" who claimed to vote for trump because he was anti establishment.

He did a complete 180 this time around, going super pro "establishment" anti Bernie bro.

He always falls back on "you just hate Democrat voters" whenever someone speaks out against the Democrats. He's literally trolling when he says that and it's clear as day.

He's already mentioned that he doesn't think trump is a bad president, he's just an a$$hole.

He was gonna slowly turn against biden the closer we got to election day, he just cant be open with his support of trump on this site because he's white and he'd get ran off.


People talk about concern trolling coming from some posters, but I think dude is the biggest culprit and nobody says anything about it.

 

[ArKane24]

Many of these scriptures do not apply to the landlord in the OP because they are seemingly not a gouging slumlord.

Also, Romans 13:8 says Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. If those tenants elect not to pay rent, the most certainly would owe back rent...and depending how the courts would handle this after the eviction halt is lifted, late fees & court fees too.

Proverbs 24:27 says Prepare your work outside; get everything ready for yourself in the field, and after that build your house. Basically, we all, myself included, need to be better prepared for a rainy day. After this season passes, we should be more diligent about having at least three months savings. I get that it is hard, but the battle is not with independent landlords. Coming together to close the wealth gap by way of increased wages & 1% taxes is a much better, long term solve for this.

To reply to the bolded, sure they do. As for the verses you posted, I never disagreed with the fact we should all work and contribute if possible. Our point of contention was the accumulation of more than you need and not operating accordingly with the those excess resources, ie rich and stingy.

The Romans verse you quoted is saying love your brother through equity and fairness, ie to not exploit him in any way which is a form of violence. Unfair, excessive rent is a form of exploitation. It doesn’t matter that this is how the system is set up in order to gain and you’re just doing what’s allowable by man’s law to gain unfair profit, it’s not justifiable to HIM.

The Proverbs verse you posted refers to taking care of your business as a man of God in the world to prepare your place or home in the coming kingdom through living in HIS laws of righteousness. Alternatively it refers to being prepared before you undertake anything, cross all t’s and dot all i’s, not literally a house Bro. Notice it’s a singular “house” as well not houses. The Bible’s wording is layered for a reason. It’s not meant to be read at face value or surface deep.

Let’s just agree to disagree fam, no malice. Nobody’s perfect and neither one of us have all the answers at this point, but this is pretty simple to see. We’ll all find out soon enough though it seems. Believe that, Slick.

Like the song says, “We gon’ see......when the sun goes down.....We gon’ see.......talk that fukk shyt now.....we gon’ see”