Police sergeant fired for having a Confederate flag in front of her house
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I don't think you grasp the rule of law.
I also don't think you grasp that blacks were literally slaves in the US, and unofficially slaves after the war in the US, with the US governments acceptance of the corporate slavary enacted by the south, with the crooked chain gangs and policing that saw some slaves jailed for loitering and forced to work in the same slave pens they just had been freed from.
You literally have to ignore the whole history of the US to look at the confederate flag as some how, worse than the US flag itself.
I dont really care about the hypocrisy of your average white american. I'm speaking as a black man. As far as i'm concerned someone hoisting up a confederate flag is the same as a idiot hoisting up the US flag and crying about that bullshyt.
fukk the US flag and government along with the confederate government.
That said, regardless of how i feel, i think society operates more peacefully when rules of law are followed and the rule of law was violated in this instance and unfortunately the taxpayers of that down are going to have to pay the price for it.
No, Its not a violation of her free speech. People always say this without knowing what it means
A violation of her free speech would have been going onto her property and forcibly removing it. That would be a violation of her rights.
Losing your job this is not a violation of your rights.
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you are wrong.
a government agency firing someone for political speech is a violation of the US constitution, the government is prohibited by law from taking such action.
Going to her home and removing the flag would have been a violation of her property rights as well as a curb on her free speech if the government allowed it to happen.
you need to understand the difference between when the government acts and when a private employer acts. That is what is going to be the major legal hurdle for the dept. in defending this.
Ski Mask
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It's a volation of our free speech.It's like some black person getting fired for having a pan African flag. ( I understand the pan African flag doesn't have the same history or bloodshed). You gotta let folks speak even if it's a shytty opinion. That's the way our country is set up.
How? I don't think she got arrested.
It's a volation of our free speech.
Governments restrict speech with varying limitations. Common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity,pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, right to privacy, right to be forgotten, political correctness, public security, public order, public nuisance,campaign finance reform, perjury, and oppression
Just when i started to lose faith in this board's intelligence level
Oceanicpuppy
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It's not that she has the flag its that they can't prove that she has a racial bias. If they can prove with enough substantial evidence that she has racial biases then that is grounds for termination. There is not enough proof just having a flag will not cut it. If she hasnt done anything or said anything ( I don't think their telling us the whole story) They have no proof other than that she has a confederate flag.
No, Its not a violation of her free speech. People always say this without knowing what it means
A violation of her free speech would have been going onto her property and forcibly removing it. That would be a violation of her rights.
Losing your job is not a violation of your rights.
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You got a point.
This is the first amendment in its entirety.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Point to where any of that bullshyt you just said is located.
A lady lost her Marriage licence government job because she did not want to print a license with two men marrying because it was against her religious beliefs. Guess what, that what, she lost her job, and there was nothing illegal about her firing (she was later reinstated). You should remember this event, it was a big one.
If you guys are interested in a debate, come with facts
There was nothing illegal about her losing her job.
Oceanicpuppy
Superstar
Like I said it's not really enough proof to terminate someone.Not so "free" afterall
Governments restrict speech with varying limitations. Common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity,pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, right to privacy, right to be forgotten, political correctness, public security, public order, public nuisance,campaign finance reform, perjury, and oppression
Oceanicpuppy
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I see, but now I am reading that she took it down after they told her to yet still fired her. I'm not still not understanding the termination.
Its that section that says "or abridging the freedom of speech" You know what I specifically said.This is the first amendment in its entirety.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Point to where any of that bullshyt you just said is located.
A lady lost her Marriage licence government job because she did not want to print a license with two men marrying because it was against her religious beliefs. Guess what, that what, she lost her job, and there was nothing illegal about her firing (she was later reinstated). You should remember this event, it was a big one.
If you guys are interested in a debate, come with facts
There was nothing illegal about her losing her job.
The lady in Kentucy lost her job because she did not fulfill her job. She was not stopped from exercising her religion, she was removed from her job because she would not fulfill her duties of the job.
That completely seperate, exercise of religion, argument, than the freedom of speech argument that this woman in georgia has.
She isn't arguing about religion stopping her from doing her job, this isn't job performance related.
This is purely her having a confederate flag in her yard and being fired by her local government agency, and they are going to have very real 1st amendment problems upholding the firing.