theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
but they have weak property rights and weak individual rights, there is nothing libertarian about china
Pollution in China is Out of Control
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but they have weak property rights and weak individual rights, there is nothing libertarian about china
Broke Wave
The GOAT
As usualyou lack any senblence of nuance. China is run by a politically party known as the Communist Party so forgive our comparisans for not being deathly accurate. The point we are trying to make in a thread about how polluted China is, is that America would be just as or more polluted without the various enviromental protection agencies and laws vehemtly opposed and defunded by lobertarians.
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
But people will always stan it over communism or socialism.. simply because greed is basically wired into our brains from a young age.
It's a shame but it'll always prevail because it affords the most believable vision of freedom and wealth.
People literally live by the words 'greed is good'
It's always better to look in your neighbour's bowl to see if he has ENOUGH food, not to see if he has MORE than you.
But people like that are few and far in between.
Richard Wright
Living Legend
Government is antithetical to environmental stewardship, stop it.
The EPA?
The only way to safeguard the environment IMO is by recognizing property rights, and the right to sue for damages.
It is government that bombards the planet with nuclear and conventional weapons, operates the most fuel-inefficient vehicles, and protects corporations from liability for their actions.
THE STATE REMOVES LIABILITY!!!!!!!! do you guys understand what this does/means?
Governments also distort the market's natural rationing mechanisms through price controls, subsidies, and irrational regulations.
I don't advocate for zero regulation, but its
to hear you guys speak as if more govt. is the answer here... Especially in a place like China.
One of your best posts ever.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Yeah and the comeback by libertarians is that the environment would be protected by property rights and individual rights, which China lacks
Broke Wave
The GOAT
How are individual and property rights going to protect the Yangzhee River? In Libertarian world, a compny could theoretically buy the whole thing amd pollute it.
How do those rights protect the air from pollution?
Broke Wave
The GOAT
I cant believe I let this completely nonsensical rant slide.
Government is antithetical to environmental stewardship, stop it.
The EPA?
The only way to safeguard the environment IMO is by recognizing property rights, and the right to sue for damages.
It is government that bombards the planet with nuclear and conventional weapons, operates the most fuel-inefficient vehicles, and protects corporations from liability for their actions.
THE STATE REMOVES LIABILITY!!!!!!!! do you guys understand what this does/means?
Governments also distort the market's natural rationing mechanisms through price controls, subsidies, and irrational regulations.
You fukking clown, if company A Is not restricted in any legal way from poisoning a lake that people live by, they would poison it to their hearts content. In the ensuing death and disease, the residents of the town would have to moint their own legal defense and find lawyers who are not only capable, but alturistic enough to take on a major corporation without a budget. The townsfolk would have to prove that the company was responsible for their problems and if they could not defeat the lawyers, they would get NOTHING.
How fukking stupid is that? Do you Libertarian idiots know anything about good laws? Laws are there to prevent not just to protect. What if the company owned the lake and the drinking company and in order to get water you had to sign a waiver acknowleding the possibility of pollution? You have not learned a single thing from anyone and still make juvenile posts like this. Im ashamed for both of us.
You can't beat gangsters in court like that.
Government is antithetical to environmental stewardship, stop it.
The EPA?
The only way to safeguard the environment IMO is by recognizing property rights, and the right to sue for damages.
It is government that bombards the planet with nuclear and conventional weapons, operates the most fuel-inefficient vehicles, and protects corporations from liability for their actions.
THE STATE REMOVES LIABILITY!!!!!!!! do you guys understand what this does/means?
Governments also distort the market's natural rationing mechanisms through price controls, subsidies, and irrational regulations.
If goods were actually manufactured in america we would have the same problems. This is the price of growth
Culturally there seems to be very little concern for the environment and other living things.
Asian brehs, enlighten us.
I was reading this article on the fur trade in china, specifically angora wool. That shyt is straight up horrific.
Asian brehs, enlighten us.
I was reading this article on the fur trade in china, specifically angora wool. That shyt is straight up horrific.
So you are going to ignore what I actually said, and pretend I said I want zero regulation...
Typical.
Anywho, i'm not even going to entertain this 'China is libertarian on pollution nonsense'. I feel sorry for anyone who believes that, and thats all I really got.
... and
@ China needing more govt. oversight.
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You're a peon, you cant win. You need a team, and muscle.
I disagree.
Sure, but it shouldn't be "you the peon" but the state, that is charging them with murder.
Which is where you enter the level of gangsters that read books, called elites.Sure, but it shouldn't be "you the peon" but the state, that is charging them with murder.
