Practice is no sweat, its the games that are a problem: 2024-5 Detroit Pistons thread

[dh86]

East is so damn weak. Magic made there move to move up the standings. Raptors acquired Ingram for next year. 76ers should be back and have top 3 pick. Pistons turn now. These trams could pass up pistons. Even Hornets, Hawks, Bulls could all turn it around. Signing Naz Reid seems safest option. Just have to get out of fontecchio contract to sign him without losing anyone. Could see Turner testing FA market despite the season they just had. Haliburton is out all next year. Indy not a real contender without him. Not sure langdon is a big Duren fan.

Anybody that don’t want Duren or Ivey on the block should tell us what contracts do they think we’ll give them

 

[eastside313]

Anybody that don’t want Duren or Ivey on the block should tell us what contracts do they think we’ll give them

Depends on how Ivey performs next year. Duren i would let him go to see what his value is. Im not giving no offensive and defensively challenged player no 30 million a year.

 

[eastside313]

A decision is gonna have to be made about holland and Thompson. Me personally i don’t have any faith in Thompson developing a jump shot. And how long is holland gonna take. Can he be ready for a Jalen Johnson type leap in year 3. Ready to start and score 17/18ppg with some shooting.

 

[manyfaces]

I’m saying that what we won’t do, other teams will and pass us up. Jaden Ivey has shown to be closer to Stuckey/Reggie Jackson than he is a franchise cornerstone we drafted him to be. That’s still a pretty good player in his prime and valuable to someone. There’s been a slew of stars traded the past year and I wouldn’t let Ivey get in the way of one.

Anybody that don’t want Duren or Ivey on the block should tell us what contracts do they think we’ll give them

I'm not even saying to hitch your wagon to Ivey. You don't have to give either any contract until you see what the the unit looks like. Still haven't seen that yet. If you don't extend them this summer then they're RFA going into next season. If they hit the ground running next season with all the parts together and a offseason of development being really productive and come back as a week oiled machine then you cooking with gas, if it looks clunky then you go shopping and make the needed adjustments by the trade deadline. My issue is they still don't really know what they're working with from a team perspective just yet. Some of that's their fault with bad hires and some of it out is their control with injuries. But there's no reason to rush the decision UNLESS there is a scenario that looks ideal fit wise or just too good to pass up.

And ftr I'm not saying I think Ivey is THE 2nd guy. I've always said I get more 6th man offensive heater role from him. But I would like to see if the sum is greater than it's parts with the team and he did show improvement in his half a season, so you swap out his minutes with THJ's while playing next to Twin and I could see better production offensively and no major dropoff on defense. There's no one way for this team to improve to a contender imo. Cade's versatility allows for different routes. My question to those that are strongly insistent on making a big move, what move do you want to see? And is there an understanding that some teams might just not be as willing to part with their star players as the media would like to think?

 

[manyfaces]

OKC figured out their core and made moves accordingly. Josh Giddey was their second leading scorer 2 years ago and was up for a new deal and they decided to trade him for a championship role player. A Dumars mistake would be thinking your core is 6-7 guys. It would be holding onto guys so many years too late where they become a salary dump. Both of those things gotta sound very familiar to you.

I think you hit it on the head. OKC identified their core. Pretty much same with Orlando too. I don't think Detroit does just yet. And with Giddy, there's a LOT more context that went unsaid with shipping him out too Situations aren't quite the same. But I agree, ultimately all those guys can't and won't be your core. But you do need to identify it. Because Dumars also traded Middleton as a throw in like the celery to some buffalo wings after his rookie year. Missteps can happen no matter the move or lack thereof

 

[dh86]

A decision is gonna have to be made about holland and Thompson. Me personally i don’t have any faith in Thompson developing a jump shot. And how long is holland gonna take. Can he be ready for a Jalen Johnson type leap in year 3. Ready to start and score 17/18ppg with some shooting.

Thompson is the only guy on the team that’s elite at something, I think seeing if he can make the same leap his twin brother made is worth exploring. Holland was the only player from last years draft that gave off superstar qualities to me. I think there’s a better chance of both gaining jump shots than there are Ivey or Duren flipping the switch to stardom in year 4.

 

[eastside313]

Thompson is the only guy on the team that’s elite at something, I think seeing if he can make the same leap his twin brother made is worth exploring. Holland was the only player from last years draft that gave off superstar qualities to me. I think there’s a better chance of both gaining jump shots than there are Ivey or Duren flipping the switch to stardom in year 4.

We’ve seen hundreds of players come into the nba a jump shot away and never get a jumper. Ivey and duren don’t have to be stars. I don’t think anybody expects them to be stars. But if your a wing in the nba you have to able to make a jumpshot. Thompson don’t even try. I like Ron holland but I’m not expecting him to become Kevin Durant. There ain’t many superstars in the nba.

 

[winb83]

Nah, impulse trades are not worth it for this team, I’d rather we wait run it back then see what it looks like at the deadline. Maybe grab a THJ type player now, resign Beasley and Schroeder. Unless JJJ becomes available for a reasonable return or some shyt it’s not worth it now.

I think you hold onto Ivey and Duren at least another year. Can they really even call it on either of them?

 

[dh86]

 

[GoldenGlove]

A decision is gonna have to be made about holland and Thompson. Me personally i don’t have any faith in Thompson developing a jump shot. And how long is holland gonna take. Can he be ready for a Jalen Johnson type leap in year 3. Ready to start and score 17/18ppg with some shooting.

 

[eastside313]

Yes a decision gotta be made. Do you wanna wait 5 years and hope niccas can hit a 3 or you ready for a finished product now.

 

[dh86]

Shoot me now

 

[eastside313]

Shoot me now

The epitome of a role player on a wonderful roster who gonna go somewhere else and be glued to the bench.

 

[dh86]

The epitome of a role player on a wonderful roster who gonna go somewhere else and be glued to the bench.

He’s 100% guaranteed to have had his best season already

 

[manyfaces]

Shoot me now

Who tf cares about acquiring Sam Hauser