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PSA: Please stop watching ads on YouTube/the internet
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BobbyWojak
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Vast, vast majority of YouTubers do not have even 1 million subscribers, and sponsors are performance based.
Aba and Preach, and Kevin Samuels, creators that I would classify as extremely successful, have about 1.5-1.7 million subs. This is the YouTube 1%. Most other "successful" YouTubers are in the hundreds of thousands of subs, not millions. Even more are in the 10s of thousands.
This is not even close to comparing to Drake, especially because Drake's revenue is not directly tied to ad revenue.
You people really have no comprehension of the relationship between ad revenue and the Internet. Basically everything on the web is connected to ad revenue, meaning the more ad blocks you try to run, the more you're fukking up the cash flow of people that run the internet, which means either the ads are going to get worse, or your favorite sites are going to shut down or become paid sites.
It is a direct correlation.
This site itself runs on ad revenue. Twitter. Facebook. Wikipedia. If you enjoy using the internet in any capacity, that site is being paid for in AD REVENUE.
You guys don't realize you are cutting off your own nose to spite your face
If they have to rely solely on YouTube ads then they shouldn't quit their day jobs, there is no situation where any ad revenue from any website is going to be able to pay someone's bills, it's an unrealistic expectation. It's not on the consumer to justify the existence of these services.
Incredibly vapid take.
First of all, trying to make a distinction between a "day job" and YouTube is ridiculous; anything that pays you money for work you performed is a job, period. YouTube literally gives YouTuber's 1099s, so it's more of a "day job" than things like being a barber, which you would never disrespect with this nonsense.
I have no clue why you nikkas try to denigrate making money on the Internet, when it's literally the current (not even the future). COVID-19 apparently taught you nothing.
Second of all, YouTube DOES pay bills; you are talking to a YouTuber fam. I am literal proof that you don't have to have millions of subscribers to pay your monthly bills, and I've been doing this for 5 years at this point. The people whose videos you are running adblock on rely on that money to pay their bills, period.
You are making the same mistake these politicians make, where they only ever talk about the billionaires, but forget that everyone else relies on the system. For every Pewdiepie and Aba and Preach, there are THOUSANDS of lesser known YouTubers getting by on their ad revenue, and those are the cats whose content YOU WANT TO WATCH.
You hurt the creatives with this rhetoric. People put out incredible content on these platforms. Nikkas are out here making independent films, releasing hundreds of hours of music, releasing artwork, sharing experiences and kicking knowledge. You hurt THESE people, and hinder their ability to do that.
But beyond all of that:
Explain to me how you get the content you want if the creator isn't able to put food on their table?
This shyt is mad fukking dumb.
It's incredible how humans cannot see the results of their actions. More adblock = worse ads or no content.
It's that simple.
I agree with y'all that ads can be intrusive.
But they are quite literally a necessary evil that makes the existence of your favorite content possible in the first place.
Until y'all can come up with a better system, what you are proposing is actually detrimental to YOU in the long term.
I would much rather my audience have to sit through 5 seconds of ads than force them to pay for Paid YouTube, because that is the end result of all this.
It's incredible how humans cannot see the results of their actions. More adblock = worse ads or no content.
It's that simple.
I agree with y'all that ads can be intrusive.
But they are quite literally a necessary evil that makes the existence of your favorite content possible in the first place.
Until y'all can come up with a better system, what you are proposing is actually detrimental to YOU in the long term.
I would much rather my audience have to sit through 5 seconds of ads than force them to pay for Paid YouTube, because that is the end result of all this.
I have studied ads professionally. Apple fukked up the game. But big tech is working very hard on finding a way to bring better ads to consumers. It’s a serious business. It’s not easy either.This shyt is mad fukking dumb.
It's incredible how humans cannot see the results of their actions. More adblock = worse ads or no content.
It's that simple.
I agree with y'all that ads can be intrusive.
But they are quite literally a necessary evil that makes the existence of your favorite content possible in the first place.
Until y'all can come up with a better system, what you are proposing is actually detrimental to YOU in the long term.
I would much rather my audience have to sit through 5 seconds of ads than force them to pay for Paid YouTube, because that is the end result of all this.
Right, because ads are the business model of the internet.
You are not going to outsmart trillion dollar companies whose entire business model is ad revenue. They are going to simply get better at putting them in your face, which means ads are going to get WORSE. This is exacerbating this problem.
For whatever reason, regular folks don't realize this. It's wild because that's been the business model since media was a thing-- you go to the movies, they run ads for other movies. TV shows have ad breaks. Comics have ads for other comics.
You cannot escape ads if you consume media, especially on the internet.
The irony is that Ad Block was JUST begging people to donate money to them, and still are. You cannot survive on the internet without donations or ads, currently. Until someone invents a better model, it's here to stay, and trying to subvert it only hurts the people you want the content from.
BobbyWojak
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Incredibly vapid take.
First of all, trying to make a distinction between a "day job" and YouTube is ridiculous; anything that pays you money for work you performed is a job, period. YouTube literally gives YouTuber's 1099s, so it's more of a "day job" than things like being a barber, which you would never disrespect with this nonsense.
I have no clue why you nikkas try to denigrate making money on the Internet, when it's literally the current (not even the future). COVID-19 apparently taught you nothing.
Second of all, YouTube DOES pay bills; you are talking to a YouTuber fam. I am literal proof that you don't have to have millions of subscribers to pay your monthly bills, and I've been doing this for 5 years at this point. The people whose videos you are running adblock on rely on that money to pay their bills, period.
You are making the same mistake these politicians make, where they only ever talk about the billionaires, but forget that everyone else relies on the system. For every Pewdiepie and Aba and Preach, there are THOUSANDS of lesser known YouTubers getting by on their ad revenue, and those are the cats whose content YOU WANT TO WATCH.
You hurt the creatives with this rhetoric. People put out incredible content on these platforms. Nikkas are out here making independent films, releasing hundreds of hours of music, releasing artwork, sharing experiences and kicking knowledge. You hurt THESE people, and hinder their ability to do that.
But beyond all of that:
Explain to me how you get the content you want if the creator isn't able to put food on their table?
I swear, artists see themselves as a marginalized group. You are not owed a living from YouTube, media is not gas or gold or water it is not my responsibility to subsidize the dreams of everyone who I watch on YouTube. Start a patreon, sell merch, whatever but if adblock is enough to make you worry about your livelihood then you do not have a reliable source of income. If the content creators cant afford to put food on the table then they are not fit to be content creators, there are millions of creators, don't worry we'll be fine without you. If you want to be an independent artist then sell your shyt independently, I pay for content on bandcamp and patreon.
NotAnFBIagent
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Then you won't have ads to complain about because no one would be making content goofy ass nikka
Non-industry people hate ads. It’s just the reality of the situation. So we gotta balance user dissatisfaction with monetizing a platform with ads. That balance is key and very complicated. They have PhDs from all over the world trying to figure it out.
NotAnFBIagent
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How did Apple mess it up? Isn't Google the big player in internet advertising
Google and Meta are the two big players. Apple implemented a feature (on their iPhones) last year where users can stop all sharing of information with 3rd parties like Meta and Google. So now those two companies have substantially less info on their users. This means they don’t know what ads to show and people are pissed off with non-relevant ads. Then they go to ad block
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BobbyWojak
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You are such a slave to the advertising industry you can't even imagine an alternative without it having a stranglehold on almost all art.
Capitalist Realism - Wikipedia
You don't even understand the slippery slope your weak ass argument hinges on, and it's sad.
Nowhere in the multiple posts I've made in this thread have I said anyone is owed anything. The problem is that YOU WANT that content, and you think you should get it for free.
That's not how this works. Creators create because they can afford to. They can afford to do so because they are getting paid from ad revenue. When you strip this from them, they are not afforded the space and time required to create something. Therefore YOU LOSE that creation, because the creator you like has to feed themselves another way that saps time and energy that was spent being creative.
This is all connected, my G.
This is not a tenable solution to the problem. Think about what you are saying:
Say you subscribe to 1000 creators, who can now only survive on Patreon donations. Are you donating to all these people? Because that's a thousand dollars a month, minimum
Whereas with the YouTube model, you simply sit through a couple seconds of ads, hit skip, and you have now supported all 1000 of those creators whose content you have consumed.
What's worse, is you people argue against YouTube Premium, and then in the same breath state you should donate to Patreon.
Jesus Christ
Nikka, name a single source of income that isn't directly affected by something that fukks up the revenue stream
If you were a barber during the pandemic, the pandemic made your source of income unreliable.
If you are a farmer, blight and drought makes your source of income unreliable.
If you are a mechanic, cars going electric makes your source of income unreliable.
There is no such thing as a "reliable source of income", as they all can be affected by things out of their control. But the problem here is this one is completely preventable by people understanding the relationship with the media they consume.
Another stupid take. They can ONLY afford to be content creators if they're getting paid. What are you not understanding about that????
You think nikkas wake up one day, decide to have a million subscribers, and it just happens?
That shyt takes time, and time is money. Every creator that is big and still here today got there because they were paid for their contribution breh.
If that were true, you wouldn't be in here looking for ways to avoid ads.
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You are such a slave to the advertising industry you can't even imagine an alternative without it having a stranglehold on almost all art.
Capitalist Realism - Wikipedia
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But you don't even have a solution, goofy.
Your plan is to NOT pay the creatives, meaning the content you are trying so hard to actually watch won't even exist.
How do you people not understand this?
Look at this stupid ass quote from you:
By saying there are millions of creators, you are admitting YOU WANT TO CONSUME WHAT THE REMAINING CREATORS MAKE.
You don't see the problem? There won't be ANY creators left, stupid. You won't get to watch anything.
Miss me with pretending you're cool with not consuming any content. I don't feel like being lied to today.