PSA: Please stop watching ads on YouTube/the internet

[BobbyWojak]

Google and Meta are the two big players. Apple implemented a feature last year where users can stop all sharing of information with 3rd parties like Meta and Google. So now those two companies have substantially less info on their users. This means they don’t know what ads to show and people are pissed off with non-relevant ads. Then they go to ad block

If companies want access to our user data then they should pay us for the privilege.

‘Who Owns The Future?’ Jaron Lanier thinks Google and the government should pay for your data

How the web killed the middle class and what’s coming next

www.theverge.com

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

You are such a slave to the advertising industry you can't even imagine an alternative without it having a stranglehold on almost all art.

Capitalist Realism - Wikipedia

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It costs money to make quality content. Either through ad revenue or payment.
If you want to keep getting content pay up one way or the other

 

[Ciggavelli]

If companies want access to our user data then they should pay us for the privilege.

‘Who Owns The Future?’ Jaron Lanier thinks Google and the government should pay for your data

How the web killed the middle class and what’s coming next

www.theverge.com

You forget Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube, etc. are free apps and services. In exchange for free access you are shown ads. That’s how the internet works. The money has to come from something.

 

[Th3Birdman]

You forget Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube, etc. are free apps and services. In exchange for free access you are shown ads. That’s how the internet works. The money has to come from something.

He doesn't get that.

They have no concept of how the chain works, they just want it to work.

Literally, the end result of their way of thinking is no content/apps or they become paid. This is internet 101.

 

[BobbyWojak]

But you don't even have a solution, goofy.

Your plan is to NOT pay the creatives, meaning the content you are trying so hard to actually watch won't even exist.

How do you people not understand this?

Look at this stupid ass quote from you:



By saying there are millions of creators, you are admitting YOU WANT TO CONSUME WHAT THE REMAINING CREATORS MAKE.

You don't see the problem? There won't be ANY creators left, stupid. You won't get to watch anything.

Miss me with pretending you're cool with not consuming any content. I don't feel like being lied to today.

You do not understand my argument, YouTube offers a lower barrier to entry for creators to get their content posted and uses ads to keep things afloat. It was never meant to support millions of youtubers if you want to live off your art then sell it don't expect the consumer to carry the slack, ad block isn't illegal. This is like a waitress getting mad at a customer for not tipping, it's not our responsibility to support you, I pay my isp already. And even that should be free

 

[BobbyWojak]

You forget Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube, etc. are free apps and services. In exchange for free access you are shown ads. That’s how the internet works. The money has to come from something.

That's how corporations have made the internet work for them, it's not going to be like this forever, things change.

 

[TripleAgent]

I created a Pi-Hole server to block ads on the network level

I haven't seen ads in a minute

On ANY device. Pi-Hole is godlike

 

[BobbyWojak]

It costs money to make quality content. Either through ad revenue or payment.
If you want to keep getting content pay up one way or the other

Then I'll gladly pay upfront.

Which I already do on Patreon

 

[Ciggavelli]

That's how corporations have made the internet work for them, it's not going to be like this forever, things change.

Whoever figures that out will be the next Zuckerberg. However, they have to figure it out, and I’m not convinced it’s possible. But who knows…

 

[Th3Birdman]

You do not understand my argument, YouTube offers a lower barrier to entry for creators to get their content posted and uses ads to keep things afloat. It was never meant to support millions of youtubers if you want to live off your art then sell it don't expect the consumer to carry the slack, ad block isn't illegal

Your argument is factually inaccurate.

It is debunked by the fact that this is precisely how YouTube operates as a business. A business that you like and consume, mind you.

This is like a waitress getting mad at a customer for not tipping, it's not our responsibility to support you, I pay my isp already. And even that should be free

It's not like this at all. Damn you are terrible at this


We ain't asking you to do anything but watch a 5 second ad, and that's only sometimes. There is no money coming out of your pocket.

The ironic part is YOU are the one telling us we should ask for tips. Nikka, you have suggested Patreon like three times! That's nearly 1:1 analogous with a waitress

 

[Th3Birdman]

That's how corporations have made the internet work for them, it's not going to be like this forever, things change.

Yeah-- everything is going to require subscriptions. YouTube premium will be mandatory, because y'all fukking up the game because you can't sit through an ad.

You gonna look back on these days and wish you hadn't.

Then I'll gladly pay upfront.

Which I already do on Patreon

Nikka, you donate to less people than you watch, guaranteed.

 

[BobbyWojak]

But you don't even have a solution, goofy.

Your plan is to NOT pay the creatives, meaning the content you are trying so hard to actually watch won't even exist.

How do you people not understand this?

Look at this stupid ass quote from you:



By saying there are millions of creators, you are admitting YOU WANT TO CONSUME WHAT THE REMAINING CREATORS MAKE.

You don't see the problem? There won't be ANY creators left, stupid. You won't get to watch anything.

Miss me with pretending you're cool with not consuming any content. I don't feel like being lied to today.

'My plan' You literally refuse to acknowledge I may have different beliefs regarding value than you. Since I don't agree with you, and you can't handle that, you're telling me what I mean instead of engaging with my argument. What can I say to that?

 

[StretfordRed]

YouTube Premium as I mainly watch via my TV and I block ADs/trackers via iOS. It thinking of doing it at a network level.

 

[BobbyWojak]

The ironic part is YOU are the one telling us we should ask for tips. Nikka, you have suggested Patreon like three times! That's nearly 1:1 analogous with a waitress

I don't know what restaurant you go to that has you paying monthly.

It's not like this at all. Damn you are terrible at this

You desperately want this to be a debate.

We ain't asking you to do anything but watch a 5 second ad, and that's only sometimes. There is no money coming out of your pocket.

My time nikka, I'm paying with my time!

 

[Th3Birdman]

'My plan' You literally refuse to acknowledge I may have different beliefs regarding value than you. Since I don't agree with you, and you can't handle that, you're telling me what I mean instead of engaging with my argument. What can I say to that?

Breh, these tactics don't work on nikkas with more than a few brain cells.

You have been in this thread campaigning for the usage of adblock which directly saps revenue from creators. That is literally your plan. Stop trying to play semantics.

You think that you should be able to consume content and not have to pay for it because you have mistakenly assumed that you already paid for YouTube content through your ISP.

That's not how literally anything else on the internet works. If you shop on Amazon, you paying for your ISP is immaterial-- you still gotta pay for those goods that you want to consume.

The same applies to the art you consume on YouTube-- you "pay" by watching an ad. It costs you nothing but a few seconds of your time, and the creator benefits, which means you benefit.

You're trying to fukk up this chain by NOT watching the ads-- those ads pay the creator my dude. This shyt is simple, I can't make it any simpler.


I completely understand that you don't like ads. But you have to understand that they are necessary for the internet to exist in its current form.

Somebody has to pay for servers. Someone has to pay for the electricity for those servers. Where the fukk do you think this money is coming from???????