at kane being a legit celeb. Outside of Hip Hop very few knew who he was. LL was a legit celeb. I don't know if you were listenting to Hip Hop back then but Ra and Kane were on the same level when it came to celeb status.
As for career it embodies EVERYTHING not just a lukewarm R&B crossover hit. Rakim had the better career...history has proven it, no need to revise it.
people in their 70s who still have their 45s record collections in their living room know who big daddy kane is. they dont know rakim.
you dudes are too much into rap.
sure, you can argue that the "legit celeb" title is a bit much. but the point is, people who dont listen to rap know who big daddy kane is. kane's name rings bells in circles that could care less about hip-hop and never heard of rakim. even
youre a serious rakim fan. i get it. but you dont have to try to vouch for him as the man in every single category.
, that doesn't mean he was bigger or more well known than Rakim, they basically went hand in hand, you could not separate one from the other.
youre a serious rakim fan. i get it. but you dont have to try to vouch for him as the man in every single category.
even
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If they know who Kane is how could they not know who Rakim is, your sounding stupid right now.
Speaking from experience all the people that I know from that era (late 30's to early 40's) who are non rap fans will always mention 3 rappers:
KRS One
Big Daddy Kane
Rakim
Those who are a little bit more knowledgeable will usually throw in 3 others:
Kool G Rap
LL Cool J
Slick Rick
I'm tired of the retroactive continuity.
In fact I'm tired of people who were either:
A: Not even born
or
B: Not old enough to tie their own shoe laces.
Trying to tell people what was popping back then.
The internet combined with programs like Kazaa, Soulseek and Limewire, web hosting sites like Blogspot, Wordpress and online knowledge bases a la Wikipedia have allowed people to front like there is no tomorrow, it's pathetic.
Kane enjoyed some modicum of celebrity sure, he posed for Playgirl and was a model in Madonna's book Sex
In a nutshell trying to argue about whose celebrity status was greater is just splitting hairs for arguments sake.
If they know who Kane is how could they not know who Rakim is, your sounding stupid right now.
Speaking from experience all the people that I know from that era (late 30's to early 40's) who are non rap fans will always mention 3 rappers:
KRS One
Big Daddy Kane
Rakim
Those who are a little bit more knowledgeable will usually throw in 3 others:
Kool G Rap
LL Cool J
Slick Rick
I'm tired of the retroactive continuity.
In fact I'm tired of people who were either:
A: Not even born
or
B: Not old enough to tie their own shoe laces.
Trying to tell people what was popping back then.
The internet combined with programs like Kazaa, Soulseek and Limewire, web hosting sites like Blogspot, Wordpress and online knowledge bases a la Wikipedia have allowed people to front like there is no tomorrow, it's pathetic.
Kane enjoyed some modicum of celebrity sure, he posed for Playgirl and was a model in Madonna's book Sex
In a nutshell trying to argue about whose celebrity status was greater is just splitting hairs for arguments sake.
man this is some clown chit.
no. YOURE THE ONE SOUNDING STUPID RIGHT NOW. and i could easily ether the f**k out of this entire post, and i should do that since you want to take pop-shots and try to play somebody out of nowhere, but i'll play nice....for now. oh and your little internet/limewire/blogspot comment applies moreso to you, not me. so basically what we have is someone who actually came up in this chit being labeled as an outsider BY AN ACTUAL OUTSIDER. watch yourself in here b.
speaking from experience of people you know in their late 30s/early 40s? do you not realize that this is rakim & bdk's age group? im speaking on people who are way older and could care less about rap. im also speaking on people who are of that age and younger who could care less about rap.
theres a reason why people are saying rakim was nas and kane was jay. do you not understand why?
and i could care less whos celebrity was greater. i just made one comment responding to someone and it got blown into a whole nother thing. next time you want to jump in side-arguments, make sure you know whats going on first.
also, are you really saying that LL has 2nd-tier notoriety behind people like rakim & krs-one and on the same level as a kool g. rap? LL is a name that best comes up amongst the more knowledgable crowd?
what reality is that?
youre still confusing albums & songs with star-power.
if you dont follow hip-hop or dont live with somebody who does, then you most likely dont know who rakim is. but theres a STRONG chance that you may know big daddy kane.
furious in fact based off of your opening salvo, truth hurts doesn't it?
for now.........
Firstly:
I should just throw your post in the bushes but I'll settle with the
I see you for what you are, your a poser a poor one at that, and your a hypocrite to boot, your the first person that usually says dumb stuff like:
Real heads didn't fukk with (insert rapper/song) in the hood.
Ross is better than Biggie.
or my personal favorite:
Mcgruff had more hits than Wu Tang.
Or....
As you have become known for doing, trying to pass off your personal opinion as actual fact, in one of those Homeboy runny ray retro throwback at the tail end of 86, black belt edition threads.
By the way your second paragraph is a classic example of personal opinion being passed off as fact, as I said how could you mention one and not the other generally the Big 5 go hand in hand:
KRS One, BDK, Kool G Rap, LL Cool J, Rakim.
Your position was that non hip hop fans would only mention Kane and not Rakim, mine was that your standpoint was a steaming crock of shyt.
At the end of the day it's all about beats and rhymes fukk all that star power bullshyt, which is a strawman argument people use when they realize that their standpoint holds no weight to begin with, but we already knew that didn't we?
I have to admit it, your master at moving the goalposts though.
