Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Mr. Jack Napier]

His "rotations" have them playing elite defense and a winning record (including the best road record in the East going into last night's game) through a brutal schedule against great teams. And um, Rolo was outscoring Miami's starters to start the game. Inevitably, that fell through. Ad-hominems and repeating yourself doesn't answer my question. My question was: Please tell us what 8-9 players made shots and kept Miami's bench from going off?

Knicks are NOT playing elite defense, yes they are a lot better than previous years. And again he needs to keep a 8-9 rotation for the season, not just the Miami game, why is that so hard to comprehend

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Can't wait for tomorrow's game!

Getting into downtown Orlando early to start pregaming

Rockin my Starks jersey gonna be sitting 6th row behind the basket

You gotta post some pics of your view from them seats, breh
How much did them tix run you though?

 

[Malta]

His "rotations" have them playing elite defense and a winning record (including the best road record in the East going into last night's game) through a brutal schedule against great teams. And um, Rolo was outscoring Miami's starters to start the game. Inevitably, that fell through. Ad-hominems and repeating yourself doesn't answer my question. My question was: Please tell us what 8-9 players made shots and kept Miami's bench from going off?

Knicks are 17th in the league defensively, far from elite, they are better than last year but calling them elite is comical. The Knicks have to balance offense and defense, they don't have very many two way players which is exactly why they're middle of the road in offense and defense. You can't play elite defense with Jose Calderon as your PG

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Knicks are 17th in the league defensively, far from elite, they are better than last year but calling them elite is comical. The Knicks have to balance offense and defense, they don't have very many two way players which is exactly why they're middle of the road in offense and defense. You can't play elite defense with Jose Calderon as your PG

But, wait... I thought point guard defense was overrated.

 

[Malta]

But, wait... I thought point guard defense was overrated.

Calderon is one of the worst defending PGs in the league, there's a difference between PG defense being overrated and being a sieve that leads to breakdowns all over the floor.

You been getting real passive aggressive lately, we gonna have to square up?

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Knicks are 17th in the league defensively, far from elite, they are better than last year but calling them elite is comical. The Knicks have to balance offense and defense, they don't have very many two way players which is exactly why they're middle of the road in offense and defense. You can't play elite defense with Jose Calderon as your PG

You ain't been seeing the back and forth the last few pages in this thread?


You in trouble now @Malta

 

[Malta]

You ain't been seeing the back and forth the last few pages in this thread?


You in trouble now @Malta

I know all about @ZemaPromos and her hatred of LeBron and overwhelming love of all things Melo, I'm surprised she didn't hit me with a 13 page dissertation for my Melo slander.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

You gotta post some pics of your view from them seats, breh
How much did them tix run you though?

Bout 85 bucks... MSG tickets were like 120 against the rockets 12th row behind the basket.

 

[I.V.]

Y'all need to hit the block and just move on.

the lack of spam has been


Beyond that, There's not a TON to say about this heat game, the Knicks got blown off the ball, and the bench never scored. At all. That makes it hard to win. I'd like to see the rotations get sussed out a little, I still don't see a reason for Amundson to be getting minutes, ever. And seeing KOQ get jerked is tough to watch, when his passing can open up offensive options.

 

[The War Report]

Just put Zema on ignore -- again!


I gave her a second chance but :mambashrug:

 

[Victim of Racism]

At first I hoped there was a method to his madness. But I see now he doesn't know what he's doing. He'll play somebody 20 mins one game, zero minutes next game, 5 minutes the next game... Like wtf you expect somebody to do in 5 mins

No explanation for why guys like O'Quinn and DWill get no playing time when they were killing in the preseason.

On top of that is his love affair with Lance Thomas. Lance has some solid games but Fisher doesn't know when to pull him when he's having an off night.

But probably worst of all is Galloway getting 25 minutes a game There's absolutely no excuse for that.

Aight I promise I'm done talking sh*t about D Fish's rotations just had to get it out.

Have you seen O'Quinn's defense?

What about D-Will's defense and rebounding? Is it that shocking that you won't play for Fish (who was a defensive beast as a player) if you don't play defense (unless the franchise is tanking for picks)? In 12 mins, D-Will is shooting 36% from the field and 27% from 3. Only Sasha (who gets similar mins) and Jerian (who gets more mins) are shooting as poorly as he is.

You do know that Lance played 5 mins, right? And that, Sasha played 3 mins. So much for the "Fish don't know when to yank" narrative.

Gallo's young legs need to be protect because we know he (and the rest of the young players) are gonna hit a wall. We all know the basketball season is a grind. KP had legs for the Houston game because he wasn't forced against OKC. Besides that, what exactly did Gallo do on either end last night to earn more mins? He was 1-9 and let Tyler go off.

If the way NY shot last night won't allow y'all to blame the team, I don't know what will. Even Rolo, who started well, finished shooting 5-12. Y'all just burying your collective heads in the sand and saying "what 78 pts on 32% shooting and 16% from 3?" It's a shame how y'all manage to blame everything on him, except getting a new team to play elite defense with a winning record (and best road record in the East going into last night's game) through a brutal schedule against great teams. Y'all act like he just made NY shoot like that.

Prediction for the rematch: Miami's bench will be who we thought they were. NY's bench will be who we thought they were. NY will play well defensively like they did last night, and much better offensively. I like their chances of winning. I fear the refs who like to see every star go off in the Garden, except 'Melo.

 

[ikbm]

zema straight up refused to respond to @Malta ...
that shyt wouldnt have ended well


in other news king po admits he listens to future before he plays

 

[Victim of Racism]

Knicks are NOT playing elite defense, yes they are a lot better than previous years. And again he needs to keep a 8-9 rotation for the season, not just the Miami game, why is that so hard to comprehend

Oh, no? What's not elite about 3rd in opp fg%, 1st in opp3fg%, 8th in fewest ppg allowed, 12th in opp ft%, 3rd in offensive rebounding, 11th in defensive rebounding, 3rd in overall rebounding, 9th in blks?

The reason your rotation argument is so hard to understand is because you complained about it for this game and because those "rotations" has a new team (who was injured for most of the season and still is) playing elite defense and a winning record (including the best road record in the East going into last night's game) through a brutal schedule against great teams. They are never out of a game. They had a chance to beat every team they've played. He has 'Melo playing better defense than he ever did when he had 2 knees. He has his guys playing hard for him. Fish has been very impressive, far beyond everyone's expectations. Y'all tryna play him like he has nothing to do with it. I find it extremely arrogant that you and others think you could do better at all, let alone in your second year.

 

[DPresidential]

Oh, no? What's not elite about 3rd in opp fg%, 1st in opp3fg%, 8th in fewest ppg allowed, 12th in opp ft%, 3rd in offensive rebounding, 11th in defensive rebounding, 3rd in rebounding, 9th in blks?

The reason your rotation argument is so hard to understand is because you complained about it for this game and because those "rotations" has a new team (who was injured for most of the season and still is) playing elite defense and a winning record (including the best road record in the East going into last night's game) through a brutal schedule against great teams. They are never out of a game. They had a chance to beat every team they played. He has 'Melo playing better defensive that he ever did when he had 2 knees. He has his guys playing hard for him. Fish has been very impressive, far beyond everyone's expectations. Y'all tryna play him like he has nothing to do with it. I find it extremely arrogant that you and others think you could do better at all, let alone in your second year.

 

[Knicksman20]

Have you seen O'Quinn's defense?

What about D-Will's defense and rebounding? Is it that shocking that you won't play for Fish if you don't play defense (unless the franchise is tanking for picks)? In 12 mins, D-Will is shooting 36% from the field and 27% from 3. Only Sasha (who gets similar mins) and Jerian (who gets more mins) are shooting as poorly as he is.

You do know that Lance played 5 mins, right? And that, Sasha played 3 mins. So much for the "Fish don't know when to yank" narrative.

Gallo's young legs needs to be preserved. And what exactly did he do on either end last night to earn more mins? He was 1-9 and let Tyler go off.

If the way NY shot last night won't allow y'all to blame the team, I don't know what will. Even Rolo, who started well, finished shooting 5-12. Y'all just sticking your collective heads in the sand and saying "what 78 pts on 32% shooting and 16% from 3?" It's a shame how y'all manage to blame everything on him, except getting a new team to play elite defense with a winning record (and best road record in the East going into last night's game) through a brutal schedule against great teams. Y'all act like he just made NY shoot like that.

Prediction for the rematch: Miami's bench will be who we thought they were. NY's bench will be who we thought they were. NY will play well defensively like they did last night, and much better offensively. I like their chances of winning. I fear the refs who like to see every star go off in the Garden, except 'Melo.

I agree with most of what you said. I think the grueling schedule is catching up to us yesterday. No energy on both sides of the ball & the bench didn't come in & do what they do. Fish can't take all of the blame for this when the players didn't bring it like they should've.