Question for Coli Drake haters

[DMGAINGREEN]

The fact that the greatest artist of our generation (Kanye West) called Drake in to help write on his most recent album would suggest Drake is still a respected writer amongst his peers too.

The songs Drake we've heard have been written have been on some experimental flow shyt. I think there's still a pattern of the majority of music having Drake sound.

But who knows he may have had some help , the problem is unless there's proof of it I'm just gonna continue to enjoy the music like most people. meh

If I hear somebody wrote Look What You've done for example shyt would amaze me, but 10 bands and know yourself, those experimental ATL songs. Whatever

Ye already confirm Drake didn't write anything on the album and was just present for creative assistance , the tweet is floating around this site some where ...

 

[10:31]

Ye already confirm Drake didn't write anything on the album and was just present for creative assistance , the tweet is floating around this site some where ...

Time stamp 35:57

36:15 he begins to talk about the euros who were actually in the Bronx experimenting with the elements during Hip Hop's inception

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Pray the real live forever man and the fakes get exposed

 

[mobbinfms]

Time stamp 35:57

36:15 he begins to talk about the euros who were actually in the Bronx experimenting with the elements during Hip Hop's inception

I agree with you that white people have been around since pretty much the beginning, but you are kind of making it seem as though white and black participation was equal on a percentage basis. That I disagree with. Even though the total number of white fans of the artists mentioned may have exceeded black fans.

 

[10:31]

I agree with you that white people have been around since pretty much the beginning, but you are kind of making it seem as though white and black participation was equal on a percentage basis. That I disagree with. Even though the total number of white fans of the artists mentioned may have exceeded black fans.

Nah I drew that line in the sand a few pages over lol

It's very clear who started it

 

[mobbinfms]

Nah I drew that line in the sand a few pages over lol

It's very clear who started it

That's not what I'm saying. I mean participation as in fans. I agree with you and @The HONORABLE SKJ that there was a generation gap with hip hop, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't the music of black youth in much higher percentages than it ever was for white youth.
I think that's what @DMGAINGREEN is getting at when he's talking about NWA, Run DMC and PE having predominant black fan bases. Even though the total number of white fans probably exceeded the number of black fans, the percentage of black kids who were fans probably greatly outpaced white kids.

 

[raoulduke187]

I understand that it's slowly becoming the cool thing to hate son because of all the accusations (some valid some still need proof) but when his music comes on in public places (clubs, bars, radio, arenas, festivals etc) do you deny the quality and begin trying to convince others that he is a "fraud" or do you enjoy the music?

Straight up question...

I've really grown to enjoy his music and seldom do I hear anyone throwing him shade offline so I want to know?

I'm not really hyped about "Views From The 6".. I wouldn't be mad if he scrapped that album and came with something fresh but for real.. I want to hear yall's answers

Props for asking

I've hated Drake since 2009 when I first heard his fakkit ass voice, to me he was a softer, more annoying and gimmicky version of Wayne, I hate him because he disrespected the late Pimp C by calling himself the young Sweet Jones, I hate him because he made a song called Wu-Tang Forever, I hate him because he fronts like he's hard when in reality he's a simp ass bytch that gets slapped around by Sean Combs

and throughout his career I've always hated him, I could really care less about the ghostwiter shyt, his music geniunely sucks so it doesn't matter who's writing it

I always sit down whenever his shyt comes on in the club. To be completely honest, I tried to vibe and dance to Started From The Bottom once but my body was having none of it and I just felt stupid for even considering it afterwards (I was fairly high at the time).

 

[OfTheCross]

Participating as fans was mostly black and inner city youths at the beginning.

It's not a surprise that the older generation didn't like the music kids were listening to.

But let's not pretend CACs were loving it from the start, they ain't even really know about it.

Now, once it became more popular and got some publicity CACs definitely got into the culture as well.

 

[mobbinfms]

Participating as fans was mostly black and inner city youths at the beginning.

It's not a surprise that the older generation didn't like the music kids were listening to.

But let's not pretend CACs were loving it from the start, they ain't even really know about it.

Now, once it became more popular and got some publicity CACs definitely got into the culture as well.

White people even in the 70s, even before hip hop was really on records, knew about hip hop and were vulturing from almost the very start. After a while there were hip hop parties downtown where whites would be. This is all in NY of course. There was that record "Caught Up in teh Rapture" too - I can't think of hte white lady's name. Original hipsters/vultures. I could be wrong about this. @IllmaticDelta am I wrong?

Once it got on records - my guess would be that whites bought more copies of Rappers Delight than blacks as a total number - the percentages of course would tell a completely different story.

 

[MikeyC]

Drake is a slimey, smarmy, snakey, simpy, bytchmade, backstabbing, wave riding, closeted, fukknikka who releses good music.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

White people even in the 70s, even before hip hop was really on records, knew about hip hop and were vulturing from almost the very start. After a while there were hip hop parties downtown where whites would be. This is all in NY of course. There was that record "Caught Up in teh Rapture" too - I can't think of hte white lady's name. Original hipsters/vultures. I could be wrong about this. @IllmaticDelta am I wrong?

The only white people who knew about HipHop before actual records were some of the Punk Rockers.

Once it got on records - my guess would be that whites bought more copies of Rappers Delight than blacks as a total number - the percentages of course would tell a completely different story.

I would agree

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Time stamp 35:57

36:15 he begins to talk about the euros who were actually in the Bronx experimenting with the elements during Hip Hop's inception

KRS is somewhat wrong. White people were part of the graff world but one must remember, it's older than HipHop and actually that scene and the musical aspect of HipHOp were not really connected until after the fact. So basically, there were no white people in early HipHop musical/dance culture. See @ :34 secs



Punk Rockers did discover Rap more toward the later 1970's though.

 

[Woodwerkz]

I'm not saying we don't create trends..

Not many my G. You can state the obvious and on the contrary the most influential and innovative artists have both large CAC & blk fan bases .

Bone Thugs
Dr.Dre
Future
Jeezy
G Unit (50 Cent & Game)
Murder Inc. (Ja Rule & Ashanit)
NWA (Eazy E, Ice cube, Dr.Dre)
Wu
Cash Money/No Limit ( in their primes)
Lil Wayne
Deathrow ( in their prime) ( 2 Pac, Snoop, Dr.Dre)
Kanye West
Public Enemy
Run DMC
Jay-Z
Nas
DMX, Eve, & The Lox
Puff & Mase
B.I.G

ummm.... I could go on and on. Cacs love the same ish we love.. You should go to more concerts and festivals



Drake does a great job of blending the modern hip hop sound with conventional R&B. He also is a pretty decent rapper. Whether he's reading someone else's raps or he's spitting his own. He makes good music.

No he doesn't and that's one of my issues with him. He has taken a lot of the soul out of real R&B to the point that "Conventional R&B" is damn near underground music now. All you hear is weak ass "for the moment" Trap Soul type of music that is nothing more than Rap. When you got Wiz singing as a single...shyt is gone too far. Yet real R&B artist can't get the proper burn like they use too. So nope...kill that argument...he's part of the problem with those hollow half baked songs he put out. None of his R&B joints are timeless.

 

[10:31]

Time Stamp 34:00

How do you all feel about J Prince's son discovering and signing him to his label? I get that almost all of you feel like he's a vulture, however, he's signed by a forefather's son. Isn't that a win for hip hop?

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Time Stamp 34:00

How do you all feel about J Prince's son discovering and signing him to his label? I get that almost all of you feel like he's a vulture, however, he's signed by a forefather's son. Isn't that a win for hip hop?

So was Iggy being signed to T.I. a win for Hip-Hop too? It's a win for J, Jas, and whoever else is raping his pockets but not the average fan.