"Race" = Bullshyt, According to Science

[Dzali OG]

Listen the only thing this leads to is admitting cacs are superior. If you really think race matters that much they whipped everyone in the world's was whether through outright war or scheming tactics.

Also tech and resources shape humans alot more. Native Americans didn't have horses, because of that they couldn't get over the bronze age. That small resource disadvantage fukked them over completely.

I want the unbiased truth, more than feel good rationale.

 

[Henri Christophe]

What simple and retarded view on history, Africa "collapsed" for a lot of different reasons "race" was not one of them.

Every group on earth puts their culture before their "race", and has done so for majority of civilization.

Race isn't real, it was popularised by Europeans as a way to justify the slave trade, thought the inventor didn't see it that way (he believed that all were equal)

Ok. Cool.

Now how does this revelation change the fact that black people are on the bottom of the global race-based hierarchy and every single black nation on Earth is an economic vassal state to Europeans & Asians?

How does this improve the situation? This topic is prison babble.

Black people all over the world struggling and you nikkas talkin bout "race is not real" from your comfortable homes equipped with air conditioning and Wi-Fi.

How does this help black men achieve power?

 

[Dzali OG]

You’re ignoring every relevant piece of information. But since you want to stick to that point, nothing on this planet shares 100% genes, not even identical twins or microbes. You speaking in absolutes doesn’t change any facts. Humans share enough of the same DNA that the small differences in allele expression and resulting phenotype don’t matter on a genetic level. The point you think you’re making is actually not relevant at all.

Perhaps I'm leading the exchange astray so lemme back up.

Do you agree that race can be = to subspecies?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

facts.

History has already proven that the "race is fake" mindset is a failure for black men.

Africa collapsed because of this shyt.

It should be race 1st & culture 2nd.

Why are you talking about a mindset when the OP is talking em empirical facts? There is no biological designation of race. Race is a concept (white) people came up with that groups people by subjectively by phenotype, but there is no genetic or morphological attribute that defines a Black person, Asian person, etc. distinct to them as a group that separates them from others that aren’t of race. This isn’t up for debate. Just say you’re uncomfortable accepting scientific reality.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Why are you talking about a mindset when the OP is talking em empirical facts? There is no biological designation of race. This isn’t up for debate. Just say you’re uncomfortable accepting scientific reality.

Ok. Cool.

Now how does this revelation change the fact that black people are on the bottom of the global race-based hierarchy and every single black nation on Earth is an economic vassal state to Europeans & Asians?

How does this improve the situation?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Listen the only thing this leads to is admitting cacs are superior. If you really think race matters that much they whipped everyone in the world's was whether through outright war or scheming tactics.

Also tech and resources shape humans alot more. Native Americans didn't have horses, because of that they couldn't get over the bronze age. That small resource disadvantage fukked them over completely.

White people invented the concept of race for nefarious exploitative purposes, and there’s supposed Black people here clinging to the European concept of race and basically calling the OP a c00n.

 

[OneManGang]

Perhaps I'm leading the exchange astray so lemme back up.

Do you agree that race can be = to subspecies?

Absolutely not. There is not enough to classify any race as a sub species of another. All modern humans are too similar. Anyone pushing that agenda has ulterior motives for some sort of dominance or superiority over another race.

 

[Phitz]

100% bro

We are not the same, we dont have the same diets, and we cant survive in the same locations.

This is bad logic for trying to prove 'we are not the same'. IJS

Not saying you're wrong but your comment about location is false, and there are stronger arguements for your point as well as the opposite.

 

[Asante]

I seen him in another thread saying white women can create black babies.

I dont know if he's mixed but he definitely has an agenda.

Maybe a white wife.... Maybe some white family members.

He's compromised for sure.

Yeah I first noticed how dedicated him and a dude who daps him all the time are to fighting Afrocentrism. It’s so text book white boy behavior, but many people ain’t peeping it because of the nature of the argument.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Notice you must keep including the word "almost" and no matter how slight, you do mention genetic difference.

Larger Genetic Differences Within Africans Than Between Africans and Eurasians

Racial frames don't account well for those genetic differences.

 

[Mook]

I want the unbiased truth, more than feel good rationale.

White people invented the concept of race for nefarious exploitative purposes, and there’s supposed Black people here clinging to the European concept of race and basically calling the OP a c00n.

I'm pretty sure mephisto has a biology degree. Maybe he can clear that up, I did have a thought a year that slangtoml also had. If you can classify differences in dogs why not humans?

At the same time cacs literally were at war ALL THE TIME. They win wars cause no one's more experienced. These dudes fought each other for every little thing and still do. Take any map of Europe and look at 100 years. The borders are changing at an erratic pace and whole countries disappear.

Even faq racist cacs had to make up lies when eugenics proved bullshyt.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Yeah I first noticed how dedicated him and a dude who daps him all the time are to fighting Afrocentrism. It’s so text book white boy behavior, but many people ain’t peeping it because of the nature of the argument.

Exactly.

Nobody goes around saying "race is not real" except Mulattos and European Imperialists.

Its just a dumb argument that serves no purpose.

Its like... cool... Race is fake.... now what? We still losing.

 

[JadeB]

Feminism is a color-blind ideology where all races of women are united under a single umbrella.

Feminism only works because most women have zero knowledge of history & dont know who they are.

Men will never achieve this because we study history and we want power.

Race is about resources. Its not about division.

and theres nothing wrong with division...I dont wanna be united with my colonial enemies.

There are certain beefs that will never die.

You have a degree?

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Article focuses on phenotype, but aren't there documented biological "variations" and differences between different racial groups?

There are in the instances where race intersects with specific populations, but not enough to give credence to race as a reliable scientific concept.

In fact, it leads to mistakes in medicine:

Race and genetics - Wikipedia

There are certain statistical differences between racial groups in susceptibility to certain diseases.[73] Genes change in response to local diseases; for example, people who are Duffy-negative tend to have a higher resistance to malaria. The Duffy negative phenotype is highly frequent in central Africa and the frequency decreases with distance away from Central Africa, with higher frequencies in global populations with high degrees of recent African immigration. This suggests that the Duffy negative genotype evolved in Sub-Saharan Africa and was subsequently positively selected for in the Malaria endemic zone.[74] A number of genetic conditions prevalent in malaria-endemic areas may provide genetic resistance to malaria, including sickle cell disease, thalassaemias and glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase. Cystic fibrosis is the most common life-limiting autosomal recessive disease among people of European ancestry; a hypothesized heterozygote advantage, providing resistance to diseases earlier common in Europe, has been challenged.[75] Scientists Michael Yudell, Dorothy Roberts, Rob DeSalle, and Sarah Tishkoff argue that using these associations in the practice of medicine has led doctors to overlook or misidentify disease: "For example, hemoglobinopathies can be misdiagnosed because of the identification of sickle-cell as a 'Black' disease and thalassemia as a 'Mediterranean' disease. Cystic fibrosis is underdiagnosed in populations of African ancestry, because it is thought of as a 'White' disease."[76]

Information about a person's population of origin may aid in diagnosis, and adverse drug responses may vary by group.[42][dubious – discuss] Because of the correlation between self-identified race and genetic clusters, medical treatments influenced by genetics have varying rates of success between self-defined racial groups.[77] For this reason, some physicians[who?] consider a patient's race in choosing the most effective treatment,[78] and some drugs are marketed with race-specific instructions.[79] Jorde and Wooding (2004) have argued that because of genetic variation within racial groups, when "it finally becomes feasible and available, individual genetic assessment of relevant genes will probably prove more useful than race in medical decision making". However, race continues to be a factor when examining groups (such as epidemiologic research).[61] Some doctors and scientists such as geneticist Neil Risch argue that using self-identified race as a proxy for ancestry is necessary to be able to get a sufficiently broad sample of different ancestral populations, and in turn to be able to provide health care that is tailored to the needs of minority groups.[80]

Spoiler

Race and genetics - Wikipedia

Troy Duster points out that genetics is often not the predominant determinant of disease susceptibilities, even though they might correlate with specific socially defined categories. This is because this research oftentimes lacks control for a multiplicity of socio-economic factors. He cites data collected by King and Rewers that indicates how dietary differences play a significant role in explaining variations of diabetes prevalence between populations.

Duster elaborates by putting forward the example of the Pima of Arizona, a population suffering from disproportionately high rates of diabetes. The reason for such, he argues, was not necessarily a result of the prevalence of the FABP2 gene, which is associated with insulin resistance. Rather he argues that scientists often discount the lifestyle implications under specific socio-historical contexts. For instance, near the end of the 19th century, the Pima economy was predominantly agriculture-based. However, as the European American population settles into traditionally Pima territory, the Pima lifestyles became heavily Westernised. Within three decades, the incidence of diabetes increased multiple folds. Governmental provision of free food to alleviate the prevalence of poverty in the population, which had comparatively high-fat contents, is noted as an explanation of this phenomenon.[92]

Lorusso and Bacchini argue against the assumption that "self-identified race is a good proxy for a specific genetic ancestry"[82] on the basis that self-identified race is complex: it depends on a range of psychological, cultural and social factors, and is therefore "not a robust proxy for genetic ancestry".[93] Furthermore, they explain that an individual's self-identified race is made up of further, collectively arbitrary factors: personal opinions about what race is and the extent to which it should be taken into consideration in everyday life. Furthermore, individuals who share a genetic ancestry may differ in their racial self-identification across historical or socioeconomic contexts. From this, Lorusso and Bacchini conclude that the accuracy in the prediction of genetic ancestry on the basis of self-identification is low, specifically in racially admixed populations born out of complex ancestral histories.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Feminism is a color-blind ideology where all races of women are united under a single umbrella.

Feminism only works because most women have zero knowledge of history & dont know who they are.

Men will never achieve this because we study history and we want power.

Race is about resources. Its not about division.

and theres nothing wrong with division...I dont wanna be united with my colonial enemies.

There are certain beefs that will never die.

This has gotta be one of the worst posts of all time. Deserves a low quality warning.