"Race" = Bullshyt, According to Science

[jerzboy]

mulatto babble.

This is no different than the idiot college chicks that say "gender" is a social construct of the white supremacist patriarchal system.

Regardless if "race" is real - men will always divide themselves based on location, tribal affiliation, or religious beliefs.

Before race, we divided ourselves based on culture & religion.

technically, you can say culture and religion is not real either.

also, how does this ideology of "race is fake" help black people achieve power in the world? How is this useful?

minus the mulatto part, this is accurate. I’ve always said race is bs initiated by Europeans, but the world doesn’t view it as such. While I think the whole concept of race is bs, I identify as black and know the challenges we always face. Until we see a direct change, I’m rocking till I die with my folks

 

[Edub]

So simply declaring a race is racist ….

 

[MischievousMonkey]

So simply declaring a race is racist ….

Not necessarily, it's a prerequisite though.

To be racist you have to believe that there is a hierarchy between some of those races (ie that there are superior and inferior races).

 

[Dzali OG]

Race being a social construct doesn't mean it doesn't have social implications. The fact that race is a social construct doesn't change anything about the negative impact of racism or the need to address racism in America, it just further proves how idiotic the arguments of the racists are. A social construct that has existed for 500+ years is still a real thing socially and can still be the basis of affirmative action, reparations, etc., it's just not a real thing biologically.








Subspecies are real and based on measurable genetic and phenotypic differences between populations.

Race is not real because there's no actual genetic differences that align best with race. If you want a scientific article on the subject, this is the best one I've seen. Genetically if we were to divide humans into genetic ancestry, then the most mathematically supported model would be 21 separate groups (though the differences are so vague there isn't that much difference in the modeling if you use as few as 12 groups or as many as 40) and over 97% of humans are mixed between two or more of those 21 groups. Plus none of the 21 groups would be different enough from each other to rise to the level of subspecies.

Human ancestry correlates with language and reveals that race is not an objective genomic classifier | Scientific Reports

Each of the colors represents a different genetic lineage. Notice how each of the different geographic areas are made up of people of completely different genetic backgrounds, and even individual groups are made up of different colors themselves meaning they have mixed genetic background, plus some of the genetic backgrounds are shared across different continents. There's no way to look at that chart and decide that 4-5 races is the most sensible way to divide people.

That's another way of showing the data. Notice that there is less genetic difference between the east african and west asian lineages than there is between east african and south african. Notice that native americans are closer genetically to many asian groups than some of those asian groups are to each other. Notice that southern european and northern african lineages are closer to each other than southern europeans are to northern europeans. Notice that the south indian and south asian (north indian) lineages are so different from each other that they're in two entire different sections.

Don't forget that those genetic groupings don't even represent actual human populations today either. For example, the average person in Iran today is some mix of the south asian, west asian, north asian, and arabian ancestries, with every person in Iran being a different mix. Whereas someone from Libya is a different mix of arabian, west asian, north african, southern european, east african, and other ancestries.

There's no way to look at that data and decide that our modern racial categories make biological/genetic sense.

Appreciate the link, I'm going delve into it. The little I've parsed thus far is eye opening. It goes into what the elites know, that it's about bloodline.

 

[Edub]

Not necessarily, it's a prerequisite though.

To be racist you have to believe that there is a hierarchy between some of those races (ie that there are superior and inferior races).

Right…. So basically still we create the conditions for the ailment to exist…. What would happen if we all stopped id’ bout race on apps, id’s etc.,….. wonder what that shake up would cause

 

[karim]

Ados milic00ns rejecting actual peer reviewed science as invented by the white men in order to defend white supremacist pseudo science from the 19th century. You really can't make this shyt up

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Right…. So basically still we create the conditions for the ailment to exist…. What would happen if we all stopped id’ bout race on apps, id’s etc.,….. wonder what that shake up would cause

It would disarm people discriminated against based on race by making them unable to articulate why and how they are being discriminated against.

See countries such as France where race is not institutionally recognized, but racism is still alive and well.

 

[Low End Derrick]

I see the Coli/#ADOS antiscience brigade is out in full force in this thread

Yuck

 

[Everythingg]

This is so dumb If you’re African American than you most likely have European dna which gives you Neanderthal dna as well.

It’s cac propaganda to say that they injected themselves into the DNA of millions and millions of African Americans that were here PRIOR to cacs arriving. Some? Sure. Most or all? Doubt it...

Im sorry you bought into it tho

Afro-Americans are a mixed group of people we are genetically different than a lot of other groups yet we’re all grouped with a racial category which isn’t based in anything real.

Ok cool, fine, whatever... My point was that cacs themselves say they have ape in their blood but nikkas don’t. But now we’re supposed to buy that “we’re all the same”?

 

[old boy]

Black​

you're a bright dude. we know race & ethnicity are different



dennis schroder of the lakers (formerly? ) is black but his ethnicity is german

rapper wale is black but his ethnicity is african nigerian

old boy is black but his ethnicity is caribbean st. lucian



so what's good with @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited 's ethnicity?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

dennis schroder of the lakers (formerly? ) is black but his ethnicity is german

German is his Nationality, his ethnicity is Black.​

rapper wale is black but his ethnicity is african nigerian

Black is his ethnicity (AFAIK....Nigerians have their own ethnic groups). African applies to his continent of origin, Nigerian is his Nationality.​

old boy is black but his ethnicity is caribbean st. lucian

Wrong for the same reasons as your first and second example. Your ethnicity is Black, same as mine.

Hopefully this clears-up the confusion you have and there'll be no need to keep asking this question.​

 

[King]

This is true and has always been true. Race is not a biological concept. Race is not real. It only exists socially. It has no basis in reality other than being fiction we were all indoctrinated to believe.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist. We’re taking about science here. Not beliefs.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ados milic00ns rejecting actual peer reviewed science as invented by the white men in order to defend white supremacist pseudo science from the 19th century. You really can't make this shyt up

This is every militant race debate on TLR, ever. One of the guys responding here posted crude racist pictures made by some 16th-century European who didn't even travel to the places in question as evidence of what race those people were, as opposed to giving two shyts about the people's own stated history, genetic lineage, or fossil and archeological evidence. You'll see the same sort of shyt to varying levels on every topic - they eat up the most ignorant, racist, uninformed right-wing drivel as their information source, then just put a black militant spin on it.

 

[africngiant]

cap

eugenics or not we clearly have physical adaptations from a racial and geographical standpoint that span from many generations

 

[Piff Perkins]

Everyone should watch that if you got HBO Max. Great documentary that goes over this idea, which is that our modern concept of race was created during the colonization period. You look at history going back thousands of years and don't see any real discussion of race. Wars were largely fought over cultural differences, mainly religion. During the Crusades the issue wasn't whites or Jews vs brown Arabs. It was Christendom vs Muslims.

When Greeks and Romans first came to Egypt they didn't say wow these black/brown/etc savages are smart. They immediately recognized them as fellow men and learned from them.