“Race doesn’t matter in America “ - Ice Cube

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And therein lies the problem. How are blacks supposed to form a strong unified nationalist movement like some of you militants preach about when love of money and business trumps all? Everybody is out to get paid. Becuse of that they say to hell with that unity shyt. Black people are not loyal to black bussiness because we always want the bigger better deal. "Why am I going to take less money to make a deal with a fellow black man, when I can make a lot more money doing business with this white man?" "I got mine, now you gotta get yours." "I didn't have any help, so why yall asking me for help?" "Its my money, I'll spend it wherever the hell I want." "If you pro-black as you say, then you should give me the hook up and charge me less than you do white folks." "Im just trying to get paid." A lot of the quotes I hear from other black when talking support black business. I'd say black people love money and business too much, which is why you don't see as much economic loyalty as you see in Jewish and Asain comminities.
I hear a lot of white men say you’re supposed to learn as much as possible at your job, then take that to create your own company. That’s what I’m talking about. This is what they do to each other. They aren’t super loyal like that. You have to compete.

If there is a choice between the black company, and white company, I’m going to go with the black business, providing they are high quality. We just don’t have enough businesses to choose from.
 

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As this OG Guppy continues to reveal his true colors, it's obvious he was a spoof from NWA's inception:lupe::mjpls::wow::unimpressed:
 

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I hear a lot of white men say you’re supposed to learn as much as possible at your job, then take that to create your own company. That’s what I’m talking about. This is what they do to each other. They aren’t super loyal like that. You have to compete.

If there is a choice between the black company, and white company, I’m going to go with the black business, providing they are high quality. We just don’t have enough businesses to choose from.
You know why we don't have enough black businesses now? it's because whites chose to destroy anything our ancestors built out of pure hatred, jealousy, and fear. When you see these ads about how businesses have been around for a hundred years, do you ever think that could've been our people too? They shut our shyt down then told folks to pull themselves up by their bootstraps :mjlol:. White companies brag about being around for over a hundred years, that's the type of shyt that makes me frustrated with cube.
 

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Not saying he is 100% correct, but, all of you replying to this thread...

Most of y'all were born after 1980/1990. Is there something you have not been able to do that you might have otherwise been able to do if you were white?

And it can't be, "if I was white, my grandparents would've had money and I could've gotten into Harvard due to their connections." That applies to establishment old money types who are less than 1% of the population.
I wasn't allowed to join a country club after moving into the neighborhood when i was living in GA because they didn't want any black members.
I was also unable to drive my car down certain streets without being pulled over by the cops and ask what i was doing there.
I remember in school in that city, i complained several times about white people calling me racial slurs and they gave me a shrug as well

But more generally, blatant rights violations is not as important as the subtle ones, having your neighborhood fall into disrepair because the banks refuse to sign off on loans that reasonably reflect the value of the home, is racism and directly responsible for the wealth gap. You either have to sell your house way below market value or hold on to it hoping someone one day will come and pay cash, meanwhile property values drop because they won't approve loans to maintain the properties around you either, basically manufacturing ghettos. All because of the race of the people living there. A bunch of white people move in, suddenly the properties are worth more and the loans are approved.
 

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Not saying he is 100% correct, but, all of you replying to this thread...

Most of y'all were born after 1980/1990. Is there something you have not been able to do that you might have otherwise been able to do if you were white?

And it can't be, "if I was white, my grandparents would've had money and I could've gotten into Harvard due to their connections." That applies to establishment old money types who are less than 1% of the population.


Black male mobility is terrible in this country



The massive new study on race and economic mobility in America, explained


Perhaps unsurprisingly, they find that downward mobility is much higher among black Americans and American Indians than among white, Hispanic, or Asian Americans. White children whose parents are in the top fifth of the income distribution have a 41.1 percent chance of staying there as adults; for Hispanic children, the rate is 30.6 percent, and for Asian-American children, 49.9 percent. But for black children, it’s only 18 percent, and for American Indian children only 23 percent.


Indeed, black and American Indian children born into upper- or upper-middle-class families are nearly as likely to fall to the bottom fifth of the income distribution as to stay in the top fifth.

Conversely, upward mobility for children born into the bottom fifth of the distribution is markedly higher among whites than among black or American Indian children. Among children who grew up in the bottom fifth of the distribution, 10.6 percent of whites make it into the top fifth of household incomes themselves, as do 25.5 percent of Asian-Americans. By contrast, only 7.1 percent of Hispanic children born in the bottom fifth make it to the top fifth, along with 3.3 percent of American Indian children and a tiny 2.5 percent of black children.
 

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you can't be a black male.

at least not a black male of some ambition and acuity, living in the west.

nope :mjpls: :hubie:

Not that it matters.

Big black dude. Definitely bigger/stronger than you.

Chest out everywhere I go. Not shy about any confrontation. Lived all over the country (DMV, ATL, LA, San Fran, etc.).

Worked big tech, Intel community, etc.

Stop with the corny shyt and discuss the topic.
 

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Black male mobility is terrible in this country



The massive new study on race and economic mobility in America, explained


Perhaps unsurprisingly, they find that downward mobility is much higher among black Americans and American Indians than among white, Hispanic, or Asian Americans. White children whose parents are in the top fifth of the income distribution have a 41.1 percent chance of staying there as adults; for Hispanic children, the rate is 30.6 percent, and for Asian-American children, 49.9 percent. But for black children, it’s only 18 percent, and for American Indian children only 23 percent.


Indeed, black and American Indian children born into upper- or upper-middle-class families are nearly as likely to fall to the bottom fifth of the income distribution as to stay in the top fifth.

Conversely, upward mobility for children born into the bottom fifth of the distribution is markedly higher among whites than among black or American Indian children. Among children who grew up in the bottom fifth of the distribution, 10.6 percent of whites make it into the top fifth of household incomes themselves, as do 25.5 percent of Asian-Americans. By contrast, only 7.1 percent of Hispanic children born in the bottom fifth make it to the top fifth, along with 3.3 percent of American Indian children and a tiny 2.5 percent of black children.

I asked a very specific question. What have YOU not been able to do that YOU might have otherwise been able to do if you were white?
 

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Affirmative action just got shot down. You’re about to see way fewer black people in elite spaces.

I don't understand why?

The affirmative action ruling applies to university admissions.

A few questions.

What do you consider an elite academic space? What percentage of undergrads are black?

If admission to an undergrad institution is based primarily on EC, test scores, essays, etc., why would "black" students be any less likely to gain entry than students of any other skin color?
 

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If admission to an undergrad institution is based primarily on EC, test scores, essays, etc., why would "black" students be any less likely to gain entry than students of any other skin color?
Because there is not equitable access to quality college prep schools. Schools with majority black students statistically test lower, and they are way less likely to have access to AP courses. Not to mention when they get accepted, they are more likely to have to take remedial courses.

So if they are not being properly prepared on a mass level, not having access to expensive tutors and community service projects, having important/socially impactful people writing your letters of recommendation, etc. it all impacts it.
 

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It was a joke!
Whats poor white people's excuse if black people are voting for these progressive policies?
poor white people are just too fukking stupid and short sighted, they get exploited for easy shoot-me-in-the-foot votes by the GOP

I have no sympathies for them but this is basic, basic American history

Cacs, even the lowest of white trash will do anything just to feel like they're above Black people
 

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Not that it matters.

Big black dude. Definitely bigger/stronger than you.

:mjlol: :camby:

you should look up 'acuity' :hubie: then re-read my OP.


Chest out everywhere I go. Not shy about any confrontation.

:bryan:

yeah i'll ignore that.

Lived all over the country (DMV, ATL, LA, San Fran, etc.).

lived all over the world.

Worked big tech, Intel community, etc.

yeah i worked @ investment banks .. bigger tech and i know what i am talking about.

just heading back to uni for my 3rd degree.

Stop with the corny shyt and discuss the topic.

nah. can't do sesame street level convos.

:hubie:
 
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