That's ABSOLUTELY what i'm saying. They're music has always been straight up

to me.
Not even possible...
and what you're really doing is trying to put your personal music preference on a plateau...and just cus certain folk don't share your particular taste...they must be stupid
And don't pretend like Public Enemy's & Rakim's core fanbase in their prime weren't practically all black folks and weren't the fanbase that actually put em on the map...you want to give credit to cacs for being "real hip-hop" fans that put more value in black music just cus they showed up 20-30 years late?
can say the same with wu-tang...i've seen videos of them in NY in the 90's with all-black audiences...those are the REAL fans....these creatures at their shows today are just cac hipsters being cac hipsters.