rakim vs nas who is better from a technical standpoint

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I was the guy who reviewed it and it was a hook away and one bad feature away from being a classic record.
Nas has not made a real classic lp since illmatic.
Nor has nas really made an album. as good as rakim coming back on universal the second time..after, being on mca.
Plus, rakim raps circles around nas.
To the point nas does not have a complete technical rubrick and if we are being honest is getting help from his peers.
While Ra actually used to do all the work from the boards to the mic.
All to cover up Eric b, lacking.
To then go work with dre and then back to basically orchestrating his entire projects again.


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lol, there's no such thing at one bad featuring or hook away from being a classic. all classic albums got at least one flaw somewhere

rakim is so ahead of nas that we never seen him got challenge the other greats on they own records. he reminds me of bjorn borg, great talent that retreat early at his peak afraid of competition or going downhill

and being multitask never been a way to rate an emcee. eminem can produce music too :mjlol:

with all due respect rakim always had the same delivery and rhyme structure. that's why even if he could always drop a nice verse, it gets kinda boring. always thought g rap >

this track alone prove that both surpassed ra



and this is the guy supposed to be a rap expert:mjlol:



I did not say it was a perfect album, I said it was a bad feature choice away and poor performed hook way from being a classic.
It would have been an actual perfect album.
if there was no maino feature and the person performing the hook was better in performance.
Past those two misnomers, it could have been a classic or a perfect album without those two negatives.
If there was no maino feature, I would have rated it a classic rather easily.
As rakim re-writes the same playbook on what would become the commercial credible rnb feature.
that his jody Whatley commissioned challenge and submission of work artistically brought to the dance.

If there is no maino feature.
Seventh seal was a classic with an opening bad hook record as its only negative.
With no maino and a different hook choice in another record that would have been high quality.
Rakim had a perfect album.

From a complete body of work, this is rakim best gateway album for any Gen as well.
As, he does everything better than any one within the culture, genre and business's history.
who makes what he originally submitted to the game and was b*stardized by commercialism.

Seventh seal is one of the last great rap albums and in timeline of release.
close out with krs's later body of work why both are the best all time.


Also, you are talking about having a large number rod features.
For an artist that cognitively you were not around for.
As you are asking rakim to have a large plethora of features.
When, the era Ra was from the posse cut or feature used to be a mechanism only reserved for otherworldly talented rappers to boost their draw with, who were unknown.
So asking Ra to be a large feature heavy artist shows you really were not cognitive for an era you are speaking on.
Which is also why the rant I quoted to respond to you.
Your content in that rant has no actual cultural factual relevency, and comes from the place of a person.
who is showing they were not around cognitively to know what took place to speak on it.
As someone who was around and knows and is apart of the culture and business.
Knows why ra is not held and not under any constraints of the arguments of rapper.
who debuted in generations after Ra debuted.

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No, seventh seal was a good rap album no more no less, but disappointing comin from ra and given the long wait. callin this a great album and even lore classic lol is being delusional. I listen to the album two time and I didn't touch it again. I love Ra but tehcnically and sonically, he's average now
 

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No, seventh seal was a good rap album no more no less, but disappointing comin from ra and given the long wait. callin this a great album and even lore classic lol is being delusional. I listen to the album two time and I didn't touch it again. I love Ra but tehcnically and sonically, he's average now

You're being really generous.
 

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No, seventh seal was a good rap album no more no less, but disappointing comin from ra and given the long wait. callin this a great album and even lore classic lol is being delusional. I listen to the album two time and I didn't touch it again. I love Ra but tehcnically and sonically, he's average now


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Rakim is more advance then all these new nikkas imo.
 
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I seen through the eyes of the prophets
King tutankhamun
And martins and malcolms
And elijah mohameds
Wise with knowledge
Paid in full interest aside in the pockets
Just rise with the topics
Rise economics I show you that time is more valuable than them diamonds in your watches
U grind where the block is you die for those dollars
Plus work for them too u know right where wallet is
Thugs is pitchin chicks is in the club stripping
Flippin drugs and pimpin hood is flood of grippin
Latin kings and black guerillas governments
In fact hopng we don't go at these go at these cracker killers
It sound like a set up and we the victims
One out of a million will beat the system
Here and wish for flippin brinks is over with
Take your chips and go legit
From the


Rakim is more advance then all these new nikkas imo.


that's the same types of lyrics people clown k rino, canibus or even nas talking about we don't want nas and his "pyramids" talk

like I said, good verse but it's ironicaly the perfect rakim's cliché bars. not saying it's bad, but it's pretty expected. that's why I'm saying ra was surpassed by nas a long time ago. and that's the same problem with cats like az or jadakiss. they are greats at what they do best, but they have just one or two cards on their sleeve, and therefore are very predictable
 
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