Random NBA Observations 2014 - 2015

[Malta]

Waiters for Koufos?


I can't believe Koufos is only 25, it seems like he's been in the league for 10 years and it doesn't help that he looks 38.

The Cleveland Cavaliers are interested in trading for Kosta Koufos, according to sources.

The Cavaliers are well aware landing a quality big man likely depends on selling on potential trade partners to take back Dion Waiters.

Koufos is an unrestricted free agent next summer. His camp has made it known to Grizzlies management that it has less than pleased with the limited role carved out for the 7-footer over the past two season, according to sources.

 

[holidayinn21]

mr.leuer AKA johnny badger AKA homeless man's dirk AKA rich man's bargnani AKA mr. 20 and 10

 

[jaguar paw]

Waiters for Koufos?


I can't believe Koufos is only 25, it seems like he's been in the league for 10 years and it doesn't help that he looks 38.

Not happening. Memphis doesn't have depth behind Gasol and Waiters is not a good fit for what the Grizzlies do.

 

[FTBS]

I said so far this year Kyrie has been the Cavs most consistent and best player. Obviously Lebron is a better player if we are getting anywhere near what Lebron normally brings to the table. I'm strictly judging of their play this year. There's a reason so many people have been asking what's wrong with Lebron because he's been nowhere near his normal self.

I don't think @threattonature was saying that Irving has surpassed Bron as a player, just that he's been performing better up this point.

I think this has more to do with expectations than how well each guy has actually played. The bar for Bron is so much higher that play that would qualify as stellar for pretty much any other player receives far more scrutiny and "What is going on"s. Bron is playing below expectations, while Kyrie is at the very least meeting his and depending on who you talk to, has surpassed his. Bron's stellar moments dont stick out because they are expected and par for the course. Kyrie's bad moments don't stick out because you aren't holding him to best player in the world and one of the best ever standards. By any fair objective measure Bron has been better. If they switched performances ya'll would not be saying that Bron has been better this season.

 

[Malta]

Not happening. Memphis doesn't have depth behind Gasol and Waiters is not a good fit for what the Grizzlies do.

Just the messenger breh, it seems pretty obvious you're going to make a move for a center.

I don't agree with Waiters not being a good fit for the Grizz though, outside of Conley they lack a creator and he could give them that.

 

[jaguar paw]

Just the messenger breh, it seems pretty obvious you're going to make a move for a center.

I don't agree with Waiters not being a good fit for the Grizz though, outside of Conley they lack a creator and he could give them that.

Waiters is having major problems scoring against 2nd unit defenses breh.

He's regressing back to his old form on his jumpers where he kicks his leg out awkwardly when he releases the ball. He's never been great at finishing at the rim or drawing contact. The Grizzlies don't want ball stoppage either...you saw what they did to .

I wouldn't say its a forgone conclusion that they make a trade for a center this season. Marc Stein or Windhorst report what they hear which could be something as simple as doing research to see what's out there....doesn't mean they are going to push the button.


Allen and Waiters would make for an interesting fight though.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I think this has more to do with expectations than how well each guy has actually played. The bar for Bron is so much higher that play that would qualify as stellar for pretty much any other player receives far more scrutiny and "What is going on"s. Bron is playing below expectations, while Kyrie is at the very least meeting his and depending on who you talk to, has surpassed his.

That's always going to be part and parcel with how we judge players: the fact still remains in just about every win and loss, Kyrie has been performing more efficiently and consistently (given their output has been relatively similar) + has been able to turn it on and break down defenses at any given moment whereas Bron has struggled at times to do the same thing.

Besides that Portland game, Kyrie has been for the most part this season, faultless.

Bron's stellar moments dont stick out because they are expected and par for the course. Kyrie's bad moments don't stick out because you aren't holding him to best player in the world and one of the best ever standards. By any fair objective measure Bron has been better. If they switched performances ya'll would not be saying that Bron has been better this season.

The problem with that is, as long as Bron has been definitively the best player in the league, there have been stretches in Miami where both Wade or Bosh were performing better than he was - which by nature either coincided with them not winning or where the team didn't play to the best of their abilities (then you have the antipodes of the regular situation). By a fair objective measure, Bron's highs have been better than Irving's this season, but they've been irregular to the point where his lows have made him fall short of Irving's overall consistent play.

 

[SchoolboyC]

If Denver decides to blow it up...Waiters, Haywood and a 1st for Mozgov & Foye?

 

[Ezra]

 

[tremonthustler1]

Waiters for Koufos?

Might as well check some old boxes and see if Memphis still has a Josh Selby jersey handy.

 

[jaguar paw]

If Denver decides to blow it up...Waiters, Haywood and a 1st for Mozgov & Foye?

 

[SchoolboyC]

 

[FTBS]

That's always going to be part and parcel with how we judge players: the fact still remains in just about every win and loss, Kyrie has been performing more efficiently and consistently (given their output has been relatively similar) + has been able to turn it on and break down defenses at any given moment whereas Bron has struggled at times to do the same thing.

Besides that Portland game, Kyrie has been for the most part this season, faultless.


The problem with that is, as long as Bron has been definitively the best player in the league, there have been stretches in Miami where both Wade or Bosh were performing better than he was - which by nature either coincided with them not winning or where the team didn't play to the best of their abilities (then you have the antipodes of the regular situation). By a fair objective measure, Bron's highs have been better than Irving's this season, but they've been irregular to the point where his lows have made him fall short of Irving's overall consistent play.

Has he played well? Yes. Has the nikka been perfect? Hell no.
nikkas are really hyping this dudes season up huh? . He's played well but come on. Dude gets some talent around him and doesn't have to be the top focus of the opposing D or the media or have to worry about setting others up and now he's outperforming Leborn . Once again this is all about perspective. Having Bron demanding the attention he demands is gonna make it easier to break down a defense. No matter how well Kyrie is playing, Bron is gonna be the focus of the opposing teams defense. nikkas only focus on his scoring outbursts and completely ignore every other facet of the game and instances where he didnt' step up and Bron did or where they both balled out.

If you are the best player, you are the best player. It's not like Kyrie has been THAT good ala D. Wade at points in that first season in MIA. He's shot well and had some hot stretches, that's about it. He shooting a career high and Bron is shooting a decade low and their scoring and shooting are pretty comparable. Like I said, switch their performances and ya'll would be saying the same shyt. It's about the players and expectations more so than the performances. Bron hasn't been himself but he's still clearly the best guy on that team and the leader and the most valuable piece.

 

[muzikfrk75]

Lin and Booz not starting?

 

[tremonthustler1]

If Denver decides to blow it up...Waiters, Haywood and a 1st for Mozgov & Foye?

Deal