We were talking at work and dude said he wouldn't put him in the top 50. I would probably put him at 47 or 48 but in top 50 all-time for sure. We were split on it and i was wondering what other people thought.
Rank Paul Pierce all-time spot
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Below TMac.
Pierce was a good player, but I find it difficult to overlook how garbage his teams were when he didn't have superteam with KG Rondo and Ray.
He had a few good years with Antoine. Never sniffed the Finals tho.
When it was just him, Celtics were very bad. In a bad conference.
Dirk anchored a team. AI carried to Finals. Vince carried to ECF, almost Finals. TMac carried to playoffs at least. DWade carried to playoffs and put up monster numbers. That 06 ring was a solo job with role players, Shaq was washed.
Pierce solo was not a good look.
Other star players have gotten roasted for less.
Probably not top 50 for me.
Pierce was a good player, but I find it difficult to overlook how garbage his teams were when he didn't have superteam with KG Rondo and Ray.
He had a few good years with Antoine. Never sniffed the Finals tho.
When it was just him, Celtics were very bad. In a bad conference.
Dirk anchored a team. AI carried to Finals. Vince carried to ECF, almost Finals. TMac carried to playoffs at least. DWade carried to playoffs and put up monster numbers. That 06 ring was a solo job with role players, Shaq was washed.
Pierce solo was not a good look.
Other star players have gotten roasted for less.
Probably not top 50 for me.
draymond is better than him
FREDDY RUGER
Pro
Are we talking talent or legacy?
Talent wise prime pierce was a PROBLEM. Top 50 easily. Maybe the asthetics of his game not that appealing, but that just speaks even more to his skills later in his career.
Talent wise prime pierce was a PROBLEM. Top 50 easily. Maybe the asthetics of his game not that appealing, but that just speaks even more to his skills later in his career.
Availability matters yes he top 50. Just don’t know where he lands
He's top 100 and that isn't a slight to him. I don't have an official list and don't feel like ranking 50 to 75 players. But if I did i'm sure that the Truth would rank somewhere between 50-100. It's been some great players to play in the NBA and it isn't a travesty if Pierce isn't in the top 50. With guys like Duncan Kobe KG Bron KD AD Giannis Steph Russy Harden CP3 Kyrie etc. it's going to be a lot of people on the original top 50 list left off.
You could argue James Harden with a little help has done more than Pierce ever did with a little help.
Anybody could win a ring alongside KG, Ray, and Rondo with Doc as the coach.
I don't think Paul Pierce is better than Damian Lillard.
Pierce just doesn't stack up well to prior legends. And some of these new bucks have already done more with less than he was able to accomplish for vast majority of his career.
I'm not even trying to hate or anything. Guy could get buckets, get to the line, and that mid-range old-man flabby stepback was lethal.
But dude didn't take care of his body, was never considered a franchise anchor, people were never like OMG YOU SEE PIERCE LAST NIGHT, has no legendary moments without a superteam around him, and in general was a constant underachiever.
Like I said, other star players have gotten roasted and shyt on for less. Don't let the ring blind you.
Anybody could win a ring alongside KG, Ray, and Rondo with Doc as the coach.
I don't think Paul Pierce is better than Damian Lillard.
Pierce just doesn't stack up well to prior legends. And some of these new bucks have already done more with less than he was able to accomplish for vast majority of his career.
I'm not even trying to hate or anything. Guy could get buckets, get to the line, and that mid-range old-man flabby stepback was lethal.
But dude didn't take care of his body, was never considered a franchise anchor, people were never like OMG YOU SEE PIERCE LAST NIGHT, has no legendary moments without a superteam around him, and in general was a constant underachiever.
Like I said, other star players have gotten roasted and shyt on for less. Don't let the ring blind you.
stepbackj34spud
Top 75 All-Time
ESPN top 100 list has him ranked over Iverson. Talent wise Pierce is a top 30-40 player ever.
stepbackj34spud
Top 75 All-Time
People talking about Pierce’s teams prior to the big 3 era don’t know shyt about basketball. The top 3 players Pierce has ever played with before Garnett were: Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis and Wally Sczeebiak 
Somebody said Pierce had little help.. no you fool, Pierce had no fcking help! Paul Pierce played with D leaguers for most of his career so his teams were terrible. Not only did he play with D leaguers, he played within the offense with d league talent.
He played in the era before the star wing player played PG/dominated the ball. I never once thought Harden was a better player than Pierce, but these guys play in these gimmick offenses now and super fast pace. If we’re talking pure stats, Then James Harden is better than Kobe ever was because of the system he plays in.
Talent wise and skill wise, Pierce was one of the all time greats.
Somebody said Pierce had little help.. no you fool, Pierce had no fcking help! Paul Pierce played with D leaguers for most of his career so his teams were terrible. Not only did he play with D leaguers, he played within the offense with d league talent.
He played in the era before the star wing player played PG/dominated the ball. I never once thought Harden was a better player than Pierce, but these guys play in these gimmick offenses now and super fast pace. If we’re talking pure stats, Then James Harden is better than Kobe ever was because of the system he plays in.
Talent wise and skill wise, Pierce was one of the all time greats.
stepbackj34spud
Top 75 All-Time
None of the players you listed ever did anything team success wise playing ALONE. Pierce was two games away from taking the Celtics to the Finals. That’s huge.
TMac carried a team nowhere. Never mad it to the finals.
Vince Carter didn’t do anything after that ECF run with the Raptors.
Dirk’s Mavericks teams were stacked. Dude had Finley and fukking Steve Nash and never won anything. Then when he did win in 2011 he had a great players around him. I’m not saying they were all star level, but Dirk always had great talent around him unlike Pierce.
How many playoff series has Wade won without Shaq or Bron on his team?
You coli dudes are fukking clueless. I get it most of you don’t like Pierce and didn’t watch him play, but stop posting bullshyt.
The reasoning some of you guys have as to why Pierce isn’t top 50 is outright dumb.
You mean in 01-02?None of the players you listed ever did anything team success wise playing ALONE. Pierce was two games away from taking the Celtics to the Finals. That’s huge.
TMac carried a team nowhere. Never mad it to the finals.
Vince Carter didn’t do anything after that ECF run with the Raptors.
Dirk’s Mavericks teams were stacked. Dude had Finley and fukking Steve Nash and never won anything. Then when he did win in 2011 he had a great players around him. I’m not saying they were all star level, but Dirk always had great talent around him unlike Pierce.
How many playoff series has Wade won without Shaq or Bron on his team?
You coli dudes are fukking clueless. I get it most of you don’t like Pierce and didn’t watch him play, but stop posting bullshyt.
The reasoning some of you guys have as to why Pierce isn’t top 50 is outright dumb.
When he had Antoine who averaged 22 a game and was an All Star?
So he had 1 good showing over 15 years ago with an All Star teammate...
What happened after 01-02? Constant first round exits or missing the playoffs. The one constant on that team was Pierce.
No, seriously. What the fukk was Paul Pierce doing from 2002 to 2007? After the one outlier year and before he got a Superteam. What was he doing? You shade Vince but your mans is guilty of the same thing... Hypocrisy is disgusting.
Both of Dirk's title appearances came after Nash and Finley. Nobody on those 2 teams was an All Star other than Dirk. His best teammate on both squads was 6th man Jason Terry. This is where you tell me washed up 59 year old Jason Kidd was incredible and All Pro teammate for Dirk... Wade won in 06 with Shaq being a corpse. Shaq was garbage in those playoffs and especially in the Finals. Go ahead and be disingenuous, though.
Like I said, Pierce had like 1 good year where he made some noise with Antoine and then his team was absolutely flabbynsick for YEARS. All of this in an awful, watered down East.
All the talent was in the West, consolidated on the Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Kings, and Suns in the early-mid 2000s. Pierce ain't do a damn thing outside 1 run in 02 playoffs.
Pierce's entire legacy is his GM acquiring KG and Ray and drafting Rondo.
stepbackj34spud
Top 75 All-Time
1.First off, Doc Divers is a terrible coach. He only has a job now because of that ring. The Celtics won in spite of him, not because of him.
2.”little help”? Hahahaha! Paul Pierce played with D Leaguers most of his career. He didn’t have little help, he had no help. People don’t realize how terribly the Celtics orginazation was ran prior to the KG trade. If not for that trade Ainge and Rivers wouldn’t have a fukking job right now!
Harden has CP3, Cappella and Eric Gordon. Those players are better than any of the players Pierce has ever played with prior to the big 3 era. You guys come in here and talk shyt about teams and players you didn’t watch. Do you even know who Orien Green is? Jeri Welsch? You know Gerald Green, right? The ducking Celtics drafted him with their first round pick in Pierce’s prime
Pierce had zero talent around him When he was playing alone. Your second best player can’t be Ricky Davis or an over the hill Wally Sczebiak 3. None of these “new bucks”have done more with less. Stop pulling shyt out of your ass. Who are you even talking about?
4. He didn’t take care of his body but he never had any major injuries and his longevity speaks for itself. Bro, you are dumb as shyt. Not considered a franchise anchor but he played 15 seasons with the Celtics and scored the second most points in franchise history and got his number retired
Dude your post was fukking awful. Go suck a dikk.
This dude all up in his feelings.
"Dude your post was fukking awful. Go suck a dikk."
Same guy saying Dirk had GREAT teammates when he carries Adrian Griffin and Desagana Diop as starters to the Finals in 06.
Same guy who said Wade can't win without Shaq when anybody who watches basketball knows he won that 06 title SOLO. That was Jordan level of dominance.
Now he's crying bu-bu-bu-but Celtics roster was weak!!!
I'm done. Don't quote me anymore, weirdo.
