I listen to NBA Young Boy from the moment I wake up till the time I go to sleep and I ain't caught a body....
..Yet
"I spend every waking hour listening to a Black man rap about murdering other Black men and I'm just fine"
“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”
- Thread starter TAYLONDO SAMSWORTHY
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"I spend every waking hour listening to a Black man rap about murdering other Black men and I'm just fine"
OperationNumbNutts
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Poverty. Staying in context with this thread music does play a factor on culture. Rap always talk about hustling, hood, and struggling. Yet when you look up businesses created by race, blacks fall three times behind hispanics creating business. And most of the black businesses are sole proprietorships that don't hire any one and rarely create brick and mortar locations. I know this sounds like rabbling but just connect to dots. Now does rap create these problems? Absolutely not! It does however create a mindset that a lot of people fall into. And at the end of the day, rap is also a reflection of black America. Rap is one of the most popular genre of music in the world. Yet, it's mainly white people who are profiting from it. No different than white real estate developers profiting from hoods with low property value. I guess I'm saying look deeper into and not on a surface level.
If you search how many threads, topics, or comments on the coli as to what the main issue is, I can guarantee you it won’t be poverty. But you will find damn near endless rehashing of the same rhetoric, blaming rap. So I just wonder, if black crime is a topic so near and dear to posters hearts, why would they focus on rap much more than true leading and root causes? Where are all the outrage at poverty conditions that we have in relation to the threads on rap music? Where are all these threads? Is it about the community or is it about having fun shytting on an easy target like rappers?
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
No disrespect but your perception if off. People are not saying rap is a sole factor to crime and other problems. They are saying it's one of many factors. Yet the same people who are against the argument don't acknowledge they can't think of another genre of music that disrespects their own women and only talk about killing their own men.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
Fair statement. Rappers and rap music is a convienent excuse to blame. Still, I don't think rap is the sole source of the problem but it is a major factor. I listen to music outside rap and R&B. I can't think of any genre of music that disrespects their own women and killing their own men like rap. All the while it's white people pushing the narrative and getting paid. People can be on either side of the argument but at the end of the day the joke is squarely on us.
In The Zone '98
Superstar
White people kill each other in movies all day. You can make art about whatever you want.
Respectability Politics are not more important than curbing poverty and institutionalized racism.
I agree with you pretty much except I don’t think rap is a major factor at all. It’s only a factor, not a major one. I believe all negative music could be eliminated right now and crime wouldn’t be affected much at all. I agree 100% rap has influence, but it is not significant at all. Societies ills do not get created from music.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
It's old but a terrible comparison. The Bourne Identify doesn't have the same influence as Young Durk. Movies are not as intimate as music. People don't walk around repeating lines in a movie but a verse from a song. It's like comparing apples to a block of cheese.
Because it's, this is just another variation of the "it's the culture" nonsense that cacs have latched on ever since race science became to controversial.
Just a complete lack of basic of socio-economic criticism.
Yes, but what about the second part of his statement?
And people do go around quoting movie lines
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Facts. Nikkas would still be sliding because the drill music is actually a symptom of nikkas inability to get along with one another. I would go as far as to say if you removed alot of these dudes ability to talk shyt on the internet, you'd see a slight decline in violence in certain cities.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
That is correct but it can influence it. I have no idea how old you are. If you are over 40, you would have noticed a shift in behavior when gangsta music hit the scene. Prior to that it was break dancing and people partying. Obviously yes crime was still around. Yet, it was evident after a while how attitudes shifted. The hustle mentality pushed individualism. One phrase I haven't heard in years is "it takes a village to raise a child." That was said and a lot of people acted that way. Now it's I got to get mind or I'll do bad by myself. And people are acting as such.
IIVI
Superstar
Voted yes, but really meant to vote no.
Someone should actually run the data: collect all the positive and uplifting songs by an artist and put those numbers up against that same artist's ignorant songs. It's really that simple. I bet I know that most of their hit songs will be more of the latter.
At the end of the day the problem is: people love clout and clout is ignorant af.
Don't agree with Ak much, but dude is dead on the mark here. Dude knows that very well: it's that dude's job to stay relevant.
Said the same thing in the other thread.
Problem is their viewers want more of that negativity than positivity, so they'll keep showing more of it to make money and keep their jobs.
If positivity really took off and negative music faded, you think they'll be pushing negative music? They wouldn't, there'd be no need to at all.
Everybody from booking, to radio, to management, to the executives have to make sure the cash is flowing in the maximum positive direction they can. That's simply their job - to give the people what they want so they can cake off it. Those people are making sure to the camera focuses on who the people gravitate towards and who the people have chosen their interests are.
Nobody is "controlling" the message than they are reacting to what people want and that feedback is determined with real numbers, analytics and data. If anything, they tried to "control" the message to make it more positive, but probably lose too much money compared to showing the opposite. Note how they'll rarely emphasize some of the "positive" aspects to Megan's personality and story. If anything that's their effort to at least try and generate something positive, but people don't want to hear that.
Someone should actually run the data: collect all the positive and uplifting songs by an artist and put those numbers up against that same artist's ignorant songs. It's really that simple. I bet I know that most of their hit songs will be more of the latter.
At the end of the day the problem is: people love clout and clout is ignorant af.
Don't agree with Ak much, but dude is dead on the mark here. Dude knows that very well: it's that dude's job to stay relevant.
Said the same thing in the other thread.
Problem is their viewers want more of that negativity than positivity, so they'll keep showing more of it to make money and keep their jobs.
If positivity really took off and negative music faded, you think they'll be pushing negative music? They wouldn't, there'd be no need to at all.
Everybody from booking, to radio, to management, to the executives have to make sure the cash is flowing in the maximum positive direction they can. That's simply their job - to give the people what they want so they can cake off it. Those people are making sure to the camera focuses on who the people gravitate towards and who the people have chosen their interests are.
Nobody is "controlling" the message than they are reacting to what people want and that feedback is determined with real numbers, analytics and data. If anything, they tried to "control" the message to make it more positive, but probably lose too much money compared to showing the opposite. Note how they'll rarely emphasize some of the "positive" aspects to Megan's personality and story. If anything that's their effort to at least try and generate something positive, but people don't want to hear that.
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Black Mamba
Superstar
This. Same for me never did crimes.
This is just people trying to take the blame away from who raised these demons and pin it on artists. It ain’t their fault its more than likely the parents fault
Not everyone should be having kids