Nope. I specifically remember the beginning of the r&b thug era when hiphop began to dominate late 90's/early 2000's. r&b singers didn't rap for the most part, claim gangs & call women the b-word as frequently as they do now
Rap Is The Only Major Genre That Doesnt Have Any Non-Commercialized Outlets
- Thread starter Homeboy Runny-Ray
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Why do people still not understand this??
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
^some of you are missing the point. and then you want to turn around and complain about the state of hip-hop.
nobody is looking to depend on the airwaves for music. i just want to be able to hop in the car, turn on the radio and pull off if i dont feel like fiddling thru cds or an mp3. i can do it for r&b twice over. why cant i do it for rap?
actually there were artists like that long before then.
but in terms of singers having a hip-hop image, you can take it all the way back to bobby brown, who was genuinely more hood than alot of gangsta rappers. i dont remember him winning any source awards.
nobody is looking to depend on the airwaves for music. i just want to be able to hop in the car, turn on the radio and pull off if i dont feel like fiddling thru cds or an mp3. i can do it for r&b twice over. why cant i do it for rap?
actually there were artists like that long before then.
but in terms of singers having a hip-hop image, you can take it all the way back to bobby brown, who was genuinely more hood than alot of gangsta rappers. i dont remember him winning any source awards.
because hip-hop on the radio has turned into pretty much 100% pop music
again, you're not gonna get much sympathy from me. I used to have to stay up til 1am, with my finger on the pause button, to hear hip-hop on the radio
if anything you should feel lucky that you were able to witness an era when they played decent hip-hop on commercial radio. but that shyt ain't gonna last forever. that's just the way of popular music. maybe in the near future there will be more of a push for 'classic hip-hop' on the radio (just like 'classic rock'). they already have channels dedicated to that on satilite radio
Hip-hop is popular music...one of the most popular and definitely the most trendsetting genre in North America (and maybe the world)...when ANY music becomes popular, it's the fluff that gets the most attention and the real shyt doesn't get real play. In the 90's my white friends growing up used to shyt on commercial alternative rock the same way we shyt on commercial hip hop now that it's the popular art form.
Yea I agree with this, the issue we're seeing now isnt probably mutually exclusive to hiphop. Im sure some rock enthusiast feel the same way about punk rock, pop rock, or alternative rock (they probably feel the same way towards maroon 5 and green day that some of y'all feel about drake and lil wayne).
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
You have to understand 2 things:
1. radio might not be directly aimed towards you anymore and you're struggling with that.
2. you're not the only one that has to deal with this. Every genre eventually has a generation of fans that can't just turn on the radio and hear what they like. What some genres have as compensation is adult contemporary, classic rock, etc. Hip-hop doesn't have that (and why would it? Outside of the DJ occasionally taking it back during a set, nobody's fiending to randomly hear old Big Daddy Kane tracks. It sucks but it's true.)
As for Breezy and Trey Songz, they rap just as much as they sing, literally. Now Bobby would spit a 16 every now and then on his songs, but it was mostly R&B. You got Trey Songz with his #Lemmeholdatbeat mixtapes, Chris Brown with his Fan of a Fan and Boy In Detention stuff, they're pretty much part time R&B guys at this point.
meh, as a hip-hop fan that doesn't watch TV or listen to the radio, I have a hard time sympathizing with this thread
seems like you're depending on commercial outlets to create a non-commercial outlet
RescueRonny
Rookie
meh, as a hip-hop fan that doesn't watch TV or listen to the radio, I have a hard time sympathizing with this thread
seems like you're depending on commercial outlets to create a non-commercial outlet
Same
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
youre still missing the point.
the same could be said about r&b. yet, i can turn to certain stations & hear r&b without hearing rihanna "singing" and if i hear usher, its not one of his pop songs.
all these radio & television stations for r&b, yet rap is way bigger and has not one channel? i shouldnt have to pay for satelite radio. that chit aint even worth paying for.
1. im not struggling with anything. once i hit middle school, i realized that radio wasnt geared for me. thats not the point.
2. no every genre doesnt have to deal with this. there are stations for geared towards every rock audience that you just mentioned. i used the multiple r&b stations as a prime example. thats the point of the thread man.
3. theres a market for everything, yet, youre trying to tell me that theres no market for the most popular form of music outside of overly-commercial radio?
4. and i wasnt even really talking about an old school channel. but since you mentioned, yes an old school rap channel would indeed do great. theres a large audience of rap fans in their late '50s that look at big daddy kane as a young boy. you dont think theres a market for that? we gonna act like big daddy kane doesnt get mad spins on adult urban radio already? come on fellas. lets think outside of the box here. i mean, theres stations for doo-wop. hell, theres stations that spin beethoven. but theres no market for hip-hop?
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
we talk about lines being blurred for hip-hop. why arent they blurred on these r&b stations?
lets stop making excuses for these people f**kin us over. its like being molested and not telling anybody because the molester "loves us".
lets stop making excuses for these people f**kin us over. its like being molested and not telling anybody because the molester "loves us".
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
and look at what it did to our youth.
look at the threads that are being made these days and the idiotic arguments.
look at the threads that are being made these days and the idiotic arguments.
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
There is this outlet called the Internet you might not have heard of. It is this place where anyone can put up their own website, make their own sound cloud page, or start a Twitter account to post music. If they are good, word catches on, and then people start paying attention because they are interested (Joey Badass is a good example of this recently) Also, it is not 'regulated' or 'restricted' to a small style of music or opinions. You can go anywhere you want.
You can google an upcoming underground show in your home town, attend the show, find an underground rapper you like to follow on twitter and then get music from that person on a regular basis with very little effort.
If you are looking for new artists to check out you may not know about these is this real cool place called The Coli where people discuss new music and share it all the time. The topics are not controlled by anyone really, except the fans themselves.
You can google an upcoming underground show in your home town, attend the show, find an underground rapper you like to follow on twitter and then get music from that person on a regular basis with very little effort.
If you are looking for new artists to check out you may not know about these is this real cool place called The Coli where people discuss new music and share it all the time. The topics are not controlled by anyone really, except the fans themselves.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
you completely missed the point of this thread. then again, i never expect you to properly comprehend anything anyway.
thanks for uppin.
thanks for uppin.