Rap Is The Only Major Genre That Doesnt Have Any Non-Commercialized Outlets

[OnlyInCalifornia]

you completely missed the point of this thread. then again, i never expect you to properly comprehend anything anyway.

thanks for uppin.

This Wacky D alias is played out. If people miss the point of what you are saying, you are wording it wrong. Also, if people disagree with what you are saying they are not 'missing the point' you can get someones point of view and still disagree. Just throwing that out there.

The Internet is an outlet. You are asking why can't we have variety and control...WE DO. It does radio, it does video, it does information, and you can control it. As it stands the Internet cannot be controlled and it gives you the ability to learn about the music you want, at any time, 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

 

[Screwface Exchange]

Well one of the issues with hiphop I see now is its sort of become this big umbrella term for basically music that black artists do. I might have worded this wrong so let me explain. Its like Chris Brown and Trey Songs sing and are R&B but most people would still categorize them as hiphop artist. Then on the other end of the spectrum take trap music of a Waka Flocka and thats hiphop. Deep instrospective shyt that Nas does and thats hiphop. Some soulful Maxwell and some may consider that hiphop. So it seems like hiphop has just become the term for "commercialized" music that black people do. Therefore it would seem like an oxymoron to have a Non-commercialized hiphop statiom when hiphop (as it is now seems to be inherently commercial). Idk if what I just said makes sense but I think y'all may understand the gist of what Im trying to make. In the defense of hiphop, its kind of its oen doing that its come to this point because hiphop was directly derived from other genres (sampling of soul, funk, disco records)

I understand wha ur trying to say, the way I explain it to ppl is that Hip Hop is a culture. Rap music is 1 part of the culture. just like rnb is a type of music of the culture. B Boying, spray n tagging are all parts of the culture. spoken word like the def poets thing are all parts of the culture. Then under rap you have diff genres of rap.

When white ppl say Rock n roll, theres so many diff genres under it, altnative, punk, skaa, shoe gaze etc..... Just like House music, diff genres in it, electronica, drum n bass, dubstep.

 

[Non Sequitur]

When it really comes down to it, it's 2012. Expecting radio or TV to be your outlets for music is silly.

This.


What a Wacky thread

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

go to other genres of music forums, and youll see the same exact threads....

 

[LucaBrasi]

The real question should be, Isn't it about damn time to start separating Rap music into different categories? so that dumb nikkas can stop putting somebody like Future or Chief Keef in the same sentence as a Jay-Z or Nas. Because now it's all Rap music. To me somebody like Future or Gunplay are very good at what they do, but is labeling them Rappers really doing justice to let's say a Kendrick Lamar that puts a lot of thought behind what he writes. Or label Chief Keef as the new wave in Rap and putting him on the shoulders of rap giants/legends like Nas/Scarface/Rakim or whoever you wanna put there.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

The real question should be, Isn't it about damn time to start separating Rap music into different categories? so that dumb nikkas can stop putting somebody like Future or Chief Keef in the same sentence as a Jay-Z or Nas. Because now it's all Rap music. To me somebody like Future or Gunplay are very good at what they do, but is labeling them Rappers really doing justice to let's say a Kendrick Lamar that puts a lot of thought behind what he writes. Or label Chief Keef as the new wave in Rap and putting him on the shoulders of rap giants/legends like Nas/Scarface/Rakim or whoever you wanna put there.

we've already done this


Putting Cinderella into the same category as Slayer cause they're both rock is no different....despite one clearly being Hair Metal, and the other being Heavy Metal

each sub genre of rap is clearly defined... but the fact that people feel a certain kind of way that Rapper X is put in the same group as an established legend off the fact they're all rappers is some elitist shyt.

it's the elitists who forgot how to enjoy music that care so much about trivial things like that.

 

[criminology]

Rap became about the money, and pretty much only the money. The art was stripped out of it. Practically no one even wants to be an artist anymore or respects the true hip hop artist. It's all I'm a Hustler, Mayne bullshyt. Go look at O.C.'s "Times Up" lyrics. Can you imagine someone writing that today? No and that's just sad.

I'd rather be broke and have a whole lot of respect
It's the principal of it, I get a rush when I bust
some dope lines oral, that maybe somebody'll quote
That's what I consider real, in this field of music

Music changes, genres change, things became commercialized, but you get the vibrant subgenres and musical alternatives when people value the art. Almost no one values the art of hip hop anymore and thats why it's like that. Hip hop became pop music.

 

[LucaBrasi]

we've already done this


Putting Cinderella into the same category as Slayer cause they're both rock is no different....despite one clearly being Hair Metal, and the other being Heavy Metal

each sub genre of rap is clearly defined... but the fact that people feel a certain kind of way that Rapper X is put in the same group as an established legend off the fact they're all rappers is some elitist shyt.

it's the elitists who forgot how to enjoy music that care so much about trivial things like that.

No it's not, Clearly there is still a lot of confusion specially with mainstream rap fans, there not even no clear line as of what is Real Hip-Hop or Rap, That's why you have cats saying Rap is dead, when they just don't know where to look for it anymore, cuz back in the day you had dope Hip-Hop playing on TV, Radio or whatever your favorite outlet was

 

[WhiteDawg3000]

subs

 

[Enzo]

You have to care about the culture to invest back into it. But the culture is all about get what you can and get out so who would invest back into it?

 

[BAMBINO]

Subs

Which one of you fakkits 1 starred this thread?

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

No it's not, Clearly there is still a lot of confusion specially with mainstream rap fans, there not even no clear line as of what is Real Hip-Hop or Rap, That's why you have cats saying Rap is dead, when they just don't know where to look for it anymore, cuz back in the day you had dope Hip-Hop playing on TV, Radio or whatever your favorite outlet was

there is no confusion... just mainstream rap fans are the most casual, they don't care about rhyme schemes, cadence, wordplay..they just wanna hear something that sounds good and dont care about the ins n outs of the industry/culture itself.

there has always existed a dynamic of between what's real and what's not... and it's usually been predicated by NYC cats or people who were fans of the east coast sound....what's real is subjective, and is only validated by what a person believes makes it real.

West Coast Gangsta rap wasn't real hip hop..cause it wasn't positive or message driven,was hedonistic, misogynistic and full of violence


Southern Rap wasn't real hip hop, cause it wasn't lyrically driven and was "simple"

only people kicking that rap is dead is people who's favorite music aint popular anymore...and stuck in nostalgia mode.


this is the internet age, relying on a TV or Radio to feed you things you like is backwards. These days, it's far easier to find shyt you think is dope...it's literally just a click away.

 

[Bean]

it just seems to me like ya'll are more upset at commercial outlets than hiphop itself but ya'll choose to take out your anger on the whole genre.

instead of bytchin bout rap is dead, ya'll should say radio/tv is dead. but ya'll won't do that because this is a rap/hiphop forum and ya'll just wanna argue.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

^^i dont know if you intended on agreeing or disagreeing with me via that comment but that is indeed the point that im trying to get across.

these outlets have basically killed off the culture.

and the other point is, why are people getting mad at me because im simply not sitting back with my arms-folded while this culture gets raped? all these dudes in here should be complaining too. i mean, why doesnt any other genre get this treatment? the same channels that serve as homebase for mainstream hip-hop, give the exact opposite treatment to r&b. its like they give that genre the utmost respect, providing shows that are dedicated to more authentic artists.

why cant we have a show for the more respectable rap artists? those little 25,000 hits on youtubes amount to absolutely nothing. then yall want to turn around and complain about the state of hip-hop but never even attempt to get to the core of the problem.

i cant believe i even caught flack for this thread. maybe i should do a thread about amber rose and that iggy girl. i'd get propped up for days on here, right? what a f*ckin joke.

This Wacky D alias is played out. If people miss the point of what you are saying, you are wording it wrong. Also, if people disagree with what you are saying they are not 'missing the point' you can get someones point of view and still disagree. Just throwing that out there.

The Internet is an outlet. You are asking why can't we have variety and control...WE DO. It does radio, it does video, it does information, and you can control it. As it stands the Internet cannot be controlled and it gives you the ability to learn about the music you want, at any time, 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

i made my points very clear, jim.

and theres plenty in here who understood what im saying. if simpletons like yourself cant keep up, thats not my problem.

[These days, it's far easier to find shyt you think is dope...it's literally just a click away.


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the internet is full of bullchit and nobody rappers falsely hyping themselves up. this whole "its just a click away" stuff is just plain wrong.

also, your average person is not all into the internet like most of us on here. this isnt normal my dude. this is like a secret hobby for me. a secret world.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

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