Rap Is The Only Major Genre That Doesnt Have Any Non-Commercialized Outlets

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

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and you believe that bullchit?

 

[JasonSJackson]

Turn off your radio and stop watching BET until they play what u feel they should. If everyone followed this simple forumula imagine the changes that would occur.

stop supporting the bullshyt.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Turn off your radio and stop watching BET until they play what u feel they should. If everyone followed this simple forumula imagine the changes that would occur.

stop supporting the bullshyt.

do some of you people actually read before you post?

 

[Piff Perkins]

A lot of it is due to us not centralizing. Indie heads got Pitchfork and a host of other similar hang outs, podcasts, etc. Hip hop tends to be scattered, so you have small areas that are very organized/well done but overall nationally the thing is a mess. Look at NY: it has a great "underground" scene right now. Same with LA. But we need a better platform for these cats to get their message out.

That's why I champion the Combat Jack show so much. Them dudes fukk around a lot but they love hip hop. They do a lot of great interviews with new dudes, but imo the show needs more support. If this hip hop scene was more centralized, we could big up shows like that - and other ones.

I'm not worried about TV tbh; hip hop has proven it doesn't really need TV. But I definitely think we need more late night hip hop radio shows playing real shyt. I get it, Clear Channel dominates during the day. But lots of nikkas ride around at night...

When I'm in the D ain't nobody playing Dilla on the radio, unless it's his birthday. shyt like that needs to stop.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

proof positive that hip-hop is the most powerful & influential form of entertainment.

this is the music that has been infiltrated, purposely water-down and used as an avenue to push agendas.

some of us know what time it is.

 

[DaveyDave]

Well one of the issues with hiphop I see now is its sort of become this big umbrella term for basically music that black artists do. I might have worded this wrong so let me explain. Its like Chris Brown and Trey Songs sing and are R&B but most people would still categorize them as hiphop artist. Then on the other end of the spectrum take trap music of a Waka Flocka and thats hiphop. Deep instrospective shyt that Nas does and thats hiphop. Some soulful Maxwell and some may consider that hiphop. So it seems like hiphop has just become the term for "commercialized" music that black people do. Therefore it would seem like an oxymoron to have a Non-commercialized hiphop statiom when hiphop (as it is now seems to be inherently commercial). Idk if what I just said makes sense but I think y'all may understand the gist of what Im trying to make. In the defense of hiphop, its kind of its oen doing that its come to this point because hiphop was directly derived from other genres (sampling of soul, funk, disco records)

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shyt isn't labelled as Hip Hop anymore, everything is "urban" so you get RnB & Hip Hop and everything in between. you go into a cd shop these days and there's Chris Brown, Game, Nas, Tyga, Lil Wayne, Beyonce and all kinds of shyt all in the same section. i haven't bought much stuff off itunes but a lot of RnB shyt seems to get put under the same Rap/Hip-Hop label.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

your're on one now...

 

[The Ruler 09]

We should figure out a way to collectively do it or influence someone who can.

 

[Art Barr]

People still dont look at hiphop as an actual artform - white & black included - mainly because it was spearheaded by rebellious black and brown street youth and based off of previously made music. It's also still in its infancy as opposed to jazz or blues. I remember my dad telling my brother when hiphop first came out, that it wouldnt last. Outsiders dont respect the culture and musicality in it. Check how Wynton Marsalis is always talking sideways about it.

It's seen solely as a cash cow - even by those who who perform the art. "I'm not a rapper - I"m a HUSTLA!" We dont respect the music - just the doe. The big issue is, we lost control over what defines hiphop and where it's headed as a result. It's suits & ties in control now. None of the people with big paper, like Will, Jay, Dre, Puff, 50, etc are going to come together and do deals together to distribute the culture to the masses, because they stay going at each other's neck (thanks to the competitive nature of rap).

Plus (and I think this is the biggie), the forefathers of hiphop arent respected. You tell me what artform, not just music, disrepects, doesnt pay homage or overlook the creators of said artform. Not one. Ask the Stones where they got they're name from. Ask Eric Clapton or Bowie, they'll tell you if it wasnt for Howlin Wolf or Robert Johnson, they wouldnt be who they are. When Nelly dissed Krs, that's when I knew this sh!t was done. There's a disconnect in the culture that I think prevents us from taking it to that NEXT level.

prolific posting...!!!


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

Rap became about the money, and pretty much only the money. The art was stripped out of it. Practically no one even wants to be an artist anymore or respects the true hip hop artist. It's all I'm a Hustler, Mayne bullshyt. Go look at O.C.'s "Times Up" lyrics. Can you imagine someone writing that today? No and that's just sad.

I'd rather be broke and have a whole lot of respect
It's the principal of it, I get a rush when I bust
some dope lines oral, that maybe somebody'll quote
That's what I consider real, in this field of music

Music changes, genres change, things became commercialized, but you get the vibrant subgenres and musical alternatives when people value the art. Almost no one values the art of hip hop anymore and thats why it's like that. Hip hop became pop music.

prolific posting..!!!


art barr