Rappers are the Most Respected, Admired, Imitated and Worshipped People in the Black Community. And it has DESTROYED US.

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Micky Mikey said:
OP prepare to receive some negs for this thread. You're dealing with people unable to fathom a reality for black people outside the lenses of hiphop culture. I want to add this.

Rap overall has been a negative influence on the black community. When gangsta first came on the scene it painted a grim reality of street life and it still does. The problem is that, over time the art went from imitating reality to reality imitating the art. Street life, gangs, drugs, hoes, etc have ALWAYS been around. But it was a small subculture and it didn't have the pervasive cultural influence it does in our community as it has today. Now the glorification of street life IS THE CULTURE. And I can't emphasize this enough. There are NO MAJOR alternative outlets for young black people to express themselves these days (none that we can distinctly claim as our own).

The Black Church is Dead. Black Revolutionary Culture is Dead. The Black family is Dead. All a lot of us have left is but to form our identities around but the caricatures defined within hip hop culture. And that's it. Anything outside of that and you're pretty much a social outcast. An anomaly.
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I literally said HipHop has been a detriment to Black ppl and got negged.

This is a Hiphop forum, so I get it.

But hiphop was the worst thing to happen to Black ppl.
 
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The people in here disagreeing with OP are the very people the rest of us are talking about who lack accountability and make excuses for the damage hip hop does/has done to our community. These are the people with pitchforks the moment you say something bad about hip hop, and they are the people who will ultimately keep us on this proverbial hamster wheel of self destruction, if they have it their way.
 
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Gloxina said:
I literally said HipHop has been a detriment to Black ppl and got negged.

This is a Hiphop forum, so I get it.

But hiphop was the worst thing to happen to Black ppl.
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hiphop is the best thing to happen to black ppl..

imagine a world with no Lil Durk, Drake or Future... sounds like hell
 
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Hiphop/Rap is really the number one religion amongst Black American. We absolutely praise and worship rappers. We know more songs and lyrics than Bible scriptures. You live by a lot of these rap lines and even get them tatted on us. And the rap lyrics for most part have been almost pure poison. These rap artists have poisoned our minds, relationships and our youth.

We as Black people have always looked for a leader to guide us. We had MLK and Malcolm X. Then Farrakhan, Jesse and Sharpton somewhat. All of these men stated the importance of family and being a solid man. Hardworking and an example to your family and community. So for most part a hard working solid man with a decent job had a lot of respect in our community.

In 80s and 90s Gangstar Rap hit the Black Community harder than crack. Because you didn't have to go to the ghetto and slums to ingest it. You could smoke it in the suburbs. Rappers use to have a lot of positive messages in their music. As the years passed by the message changed. I think Tupac was the Beacon of this change. He made being a hypocrite cool. Today it's Keep Ya Head Up and Dear Mama, Tomorrow is Hit Em Up. He promoted Thug Life to the fullest and pretty much told our women and children, if he aint a thug he's lame and corny. That is still the rule in the Black Community for most part. They were popular gangstar rappers before, but not like 2pac. Pac was in movies, always in the news and he was a sexy symbol that women still love. All of the women wanted him and all the men were acting like him. Never once did I hear Pac rap about the importance of family or being a great father. Being from a single mother home, it was always about Mama. In the Black Community we worship our moms and undervalue dads and it still hurting us. Fathers teach honor, Moms don't. We've lost our honor.

I'd say every rapper has some Pac influence, but as time went on the message go worse. These rappers glorified drinking, smoking, pills, womanizing, robbing, killing, etc. And our youth followed them. And our women followed them and the guys like them. Sadly these types of men don't make good husbands for many reason I'd say most of the babies born in the Black communities are for these type of men. Thugs, Players, Scammers, Dealers, Hustlers the same type of men glorified in our music.

Reality Tv and Social Media really has been the nail in Black Love's coffin. The music was toxic enough, add in the visual of disfunction and we're now screwed. We have a generation of women and men who have gotten most of their relationship and life goals from TV and Social Media.

We have poisoned our own women with this Religion of Hiphop. They've always looked to us for what's cool and they should be. They've seen us praising and imitating rapper, so how we get mad that they're in love with them now. Now our women fighting and being masculine and overaggressing. Our women are now rappers glorifying drugs, prostitutiong, robbing and finessing. Now we have young girls saying they only date scammers and wouldn't date a working class man. It's over.


Sadly I don't see this changing. All you can do is try to find a woman that's not too poison and raise a family far away from this chaos.
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When I was growing up Nas, Cube, KRS, Rakim, Chuck D, etc. were righteous heroes in my eyes. Somewhere along the way, the machine suppressed those type of emcees in favor of much more destructive ones.
 
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Micky Mikey said:
OP prepare to receive some negs for this thread. You're dealing with people unable to fathom a reality for black people outside the lenses of hiphop culture. I want to add this.

Rap overall has been a negative influence on the black community. When gangsta first came on the scene it painted a grim reality of street life and it still does. The problem is that, over time the art went from imitating reality to reality imitating the art. Street life, gangs, drugs, hoes, etc have ALWAYS been around. But it was a small subculture and it didn't have the pervasive cultural influence it does in our community as it has today. Now the glorification of street life IS THE CULTURE. And I can't emphasize this enough. There are NO MAJOR alternative outlets for young black people to express themselves these days (none that we can distinctly claim as our own).

The Black Church is Dead. Black Revolutionary Culture is Dead. The Black family is Dead. All a lot of us have left is but to form our identities around but the caricatures defined within hip hop culture. And that's it. Anything outside of that and you're pretty much a social outcast. An anomaly.
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This is correct. And the reactions of a lot of people here just solidify it. I've said it before, I grew up loving hip hop. I've performed it, had a little rap group in college that did shows at local pubs and on campus. I have an encycolopedia's worth of hip hop memorized in my head. However, once it started to go the direction of gangsta rap, it became a poison to the community because the VARIETY was killed, at least mainstream wise. You had De La, Tribe, Rakim, BDK, PE, EMPD, and on and on then it as record companies began to see that the shock value of gangsta rap sold like hotcakes to little Tommy in the suburbs, it became all they wanted to sign. Additionally, you had rappers that were maybe streeet adjacent ala Nas, Snoop, etc. move into hardened criminals and murderers ala King Von, Young Thug and on and on. You compare the amount of rappers murdered in modern times to back then and it's just no comparison at all. This is what happens when you allow criminals to run an enterprise.

These guys that grew up with nothing else, can't even begin to conceive of a hip hop that isn't like this because it's all they've ever known. Hearing I shot that n over and over and over is like breathing to them. It's what everyone around them listens to, and so even if they're not involved in the streets, they just give it "it's just entertainment" and move on without actually analyzing what being the only group that exports genocide music globally has done to mentalities.

Sadly, I don't see this changing. I've been waiting a long time for the pendulum to swing, ala Nirvanna coming in and crushing the Glam Metal buildings but instead it just gets more and more pointless and nihilistic.
 
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MasterThought said:
It's a HISTORICAL FACT that "entertainment" has been used throughout history to destroy the image of blacks and breh really quoted me with the laughing hysterically smiley.


We're done y'all :mjcry:
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I laughed because everyone is always talking about the problems but never offer any solutions.
"Rap music destroyed the black community " argument has been going on 30 plus years, but yet here we are discussing the same shyt.
 
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