Rappers dont fall off.. Listeners mature

[360dagod]

nelly has always been garbage to me.. he never fell off because he was never hot.. if you listened to that BS back in the day and dont like it now.. its because you found out you used to be a lil bytch..

CAM Clearly is not as good as he used to be.. anyone who is a fan and has been a fan can tell the difference between SDE CAM and lazy cam of today...

I think he still as good...you even added to the point with him being lazy

I just think the fire is gone...

Being lazy dosent mean the skillset is gone,it just means your bored and go with the motions...

 

[Mike Statik]

i still dont understand how people say HOV fell off.... how.. he just dropped a great album..hes been in the game for 20 years.. what more do you want from dude..

look at the other people who have been in the game that long

lol what great album are u referring too?

the blueprint 4: cant think of anything new to say and ran outa shyt to talk about

 

[Patriarch]

i still dont understand how people say HOV fell off.... how.. he just dropped a great album..hes been in the game for 20 years.. what more do you want from dude..

look at the other people who have been in the game that long

Now I see.. My bad for even debating with you.

 

[360dagod]

there's a difference between putting out bad albums, and losing your technical skill. most rappers, after a few albums, usually just don't care anymore. you can always tell someone who takes awhile to write their rhymes, vs the abc rhymers that could do a whole song in like 5 mins. back in the day, you would put all of your time into a debut, cause you knew it was the only chance that you may get. now, they just don't care. you can put out music anyway possible and not even have to have talent.

Exactly

 

[BastardChild]

lol what great album are u referring too?

the blueprint 4: cant think of anything new to say and ran outa shyt to talk about

Now I see.. My bad for even debating with you.

MCHG is a top 5 album of the year .. and yall are saying HOV fell off.. how old are yall 19.. gtfo.. go listen to some keef.. pop a molly.. do the dougie whatever yall do

 

[Mike Statik]

MCHG is a top 5 album of the year .. and yall are saying HOV fell off.. how old are yall 19.. gtfo.. go listen to some keef.. pop a molly.. do the dougie whatever yall do

actually im 26.... and MCHG was fukkin terrible

and even if it was a top 5 album of the year... wtf is that sayin??? hip hop fukkin sucks for the most part now...if I dropped an album it could potentially be top 20 of the year lol

 

[BastardChild]

actually im 26.... and MCHG was fukkin terrible

and even if it was a top 5 album of the year... wtf is that sayin??? hip hop fukkin sucks for the most part now...if I dropped an album it could potentially be top 20 of the year lol

to you... alot of people would disagree..

i would say the overall consensus is hovs album wasnt that bad...

 

[Mike Statik]

to you... alot of people would disagree..

i would say the overall consensus is hovs album wasnt that bad...

yeah Camel Stans would agree with u...but most actual fans of hip hop are prob disgusted

Prodigy and Alchemists Einstein album was 10x better

 

[BastardChild]

yeah Camel Stans would agree with u...but most actual fans of hip hop are prob disgusted

Prodigy and Alchemists Einstein album was 10x better

10x better.. nah and i love that album... but hearing prodigy rap about the same shyt hes been rapping about for the past 12 years is not better than the shyt hov was talking about on Oceans or somewhereinamerica..

 

[BastardChild]

I think he still as good...you even added to the point with him being lazy

I just think the fire is gone...

Being lazy dosent mean the skillset is gone,it just means your bored and go with the motions...

fire is gone / lazy.. all the same shyt to me.. because in the end you still are not putting out quality music

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Yea DMX didnt fall off, his fans just matured, if you think about it Undisputed is just as good as Its Dark and Hell is Hot.. the crack kicking in had nothing to do with it !
Eminem didnt fall off, I could picture Berzerk being on the original MMLP and I could see him collabing with pop stars 13 years ago
Cam didnt fall off lyrically but his overall music ive heard in the past year just sounds lazy and poorly mixed with wack beats..
Even though a lot of rapers fall off lyrically, its more than just lyrics.. its their ear for beats, its their voice, how in touch they are with shyt today.. a lot of shyt goes into rappers falling off

If your logic stood true, since listeners are so mature now they wouldnt still listen to those old albums and feel that they are classic, plus its not like any of the popular rappers of today are spitting any more advanced shyt than nikkas were spitting 10 years ago

 

[360dagod]

Yea DMX didnt fall off, his fans just matured, if you think about it Undisputed is just as good as Its Dark and Hell is Hot.. the crack kicking in had nothing to do with it !
Eminem didnt fall off, I could picture Berzerk being on the original MMLP and I could see him collabing with pop stars 13 years ago
Cam didnt fall off lyrically but his overall music ive heard in the past year just sounds lazy and poorly mixed with wack beats..
Even though a lot of rapers fall off lyrically, its more than just lyrics.. its their ear for beats, its their voice, how in touch they are with shyt today.. a lot of shyt goes into rappers falling off

If your logic stood true, since listeners are so mature now they wouldnt still listen to those old albums and feel that they are classic, plus its not like any of the popular rappers of today are spitting any more advanced shyt than nikkas were spitting 10 years ago

Exactly...

I think when Jimmy and Elz went on stage with 50,that was a big blow to cam because with all the other shyt that was going on,he loooked vulnerable...

I believe that Killa is still bitter about the Jay-z thing{which he has a right to be} and the dipset fall out...

A nikka could make heat and be on tracks with mariah carey,but a nikka with power and influence who feels threatened by you can literally blackball your career...

I do believe it will take nikkas to come at cam sideways for him to really get going again musically...

Because then the fire and edge will come together with the skillset

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Exactly...

I think when Jimmy and Elz went on stage with 50,that was a big blow to cam because with all the other shyt that was going on,he loooked vulnerable...

I believe that Killa is still bitter about the Jay-z thing{which he has a right to be} and the dipset fall out...

A nikka could make heat and be on tracks with mariah carey,but a nikka with power and influence who feels threatened by you can literally blackball your career...

I do believe it will take nikkas to come at cam sideways for him to really get going again musically...

Because then the fire and edge will come together with the skillset

You can tell Cam still doesnt fukk with Juelz and Jim like that, even after the "reunion" u never see them together unless its a concert or a club appearance theyre getting paid to show up at..

I personally enjoyed Cams run with Vado from 09-11, he had songs buzzing in the tri-state area on the radio and the mixtapes were popping but then Vado failed to blow up and then they just stopped working together and Vado signed to Khaled I think that played a part in him falling back and losing motivation too, after putting so much effort into something and getting nothing in return

Hopefully Ghetto Heaven is good otherwise its official that hes

 

[360dagod]

You can tell Cam still doesnt fukk with Juelz and Jim like that, even after the "reunion" u never see them together unless its a concert or a club appearance theyre getting paid to show up at..

I personally enjoyed Cams run with Vado from 09-11, he had songs buzzing in the tri-state area on the radio and the mixtapes were popping but then Vado failed to blow up and then they just stopped working together and Vado signed to Khaled I think that played a part in him falling back and losing motivation too, after putting so much effort into something and getting nothing in return

Hopefully Ghetto Heaven is good otherwise its official that hes

I listened to Gunz and Butta and Cam was spitting some shyt on there...

He killed the feature with wiz and the joint with nicki,,also some mac miller song..

He still got it

I dont know who Cam hangs around when he is in the studio,but there is no way I would co-sign some of the joints he been coming out with lately...

A-Mafia has had more bangers imo in the last year than Cam..

Its crazy because he can be put in the Larry Holmes gardens and then show up on someone else's record and literally put them to shame

 

[Zebruh]

It's a mix of both.

Eminem clearly has fallen off the wagon, and while he still has a high/sharp level of skill, his overall package isn't the same as it used to be. Sometimes you look at Em performances from the last couple years where he performs his older stuff, and he can barely even get the flow he used on the song right. Sometimes rappers just get . Maybe they don't have the same creative minds around them anymore. Who knows?

Of course with some changes and more styles coming and going, I think fans can mature, but also in some instances, their main interests just shift as rappers fall off. 10 years ago I could care less about Rick Ross...now? He just be cranking out bangers fam...I Wonder Why....I WONDER WHY?!?!