Rappers going from WACK to DOPE? Which rappers improved the most?

[beenz]

all I know is kanye was straight on the mic when he first came out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tITG08wtIvc#t=2m27s

 

[mobbinfms]

jay-z..and im talkin bout the early, "skippity-be-bop" fast rappin jay..shyt was wack to me

"you say never you run if eva you u come its neva u run so fast in ya life to neva have won" dude was trash

Thats an ill line you quoted and I liked Fu Schnickens Jay a lot.

Of course, RD Jay > Buh-Buh-Buh Bam Jay

But Fu Schnickens Jay wasn't wack so he doesn't fit this category.

 

[mobbinfms]

Ross improved. Wayne improved then turned trash after a while. Del improved over time. Mobb Deep's debut was then they dropped classics.

Juvenile Hell wasn't wack - but the increase in quality with Infamous was dramatic.

 

[mobbinfms]

I might catch heat from the other old nikkas, but....

Sean Price. Not saying Sean was wack.. nah, Sean Price never been wack.... but....

I literally used to listen to Heltah Skeltah for Rock's verses and Sean's sense of humor when I was younger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBK3a4bkHZo

Sean went to jail and came back......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvSLmmpTaZ4

They was both dope on Nocturnal. That album is a personal classic for me. Picked it up the same day I did Reasonable Doubt, It Was Written, Stakes is High and the AIDS compilation. I hold the first HS album in as high regard as the other three listed.

 

[Cynic]

Ace Hood

 

[malbaker86]

Camron from Confessions of Fire to S.D.E. was a big change from wack to dope.


COF was while SDE/CHWM/PH was . Cam was sounding like Drag-On on COF

Cam = most improved rapper in history.

From unlistenable clarity, offkey flows and the worst mic presence of the nee rappers from his gen.
to the highest skill executing emcee in every category of rap since 2000.

I actually prefer the Confessions of Fire Cam'Ron "lyrically" even though his flow was terrible in retrospect

 

[mobbinfms]

Cam = most improved rapper in history.

From unlistenable clarity, offkey flows and the worst mic presence of the nee rappers from his gen.
to the highest skill executing emcee in every category of rap since 2000.

I think Cam was the best in the COC days. His verse on 8 is Enough was nice.

 

[mobbinfms]

all I know is kanye was straight on the mic when he first came out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tITG08wtIvc#t=2m27s

Lyrically I liked Kanye best on CD and LR. He fell off after that - picking up again with MBDTF.

 

[Big Blue]

Future

 

[CrimsonTider]

Drake: I'm glad he's starting to realize that singing/harmonizing sh!t is for the birds

Jeezy: HATED him w/a passion when he first came out, but when "Can't Ban The Snowman" dropped, he started improving A LOT album by album and mixtape by mixtape. Even TM101 has "aged" damn good.

Rocko has gotten better over time.

Drake still sings and that is what makes his music so unique.

The harmonizing on Started from the bottom Is the best part of the song

What you described is not Jeezy getting better, but you stopped disliking his music

 

[CrimsonTider]

The #1 answer is Ross

When POM came out... No one would have expected they rapper to be able to make a song like Pirates.

 

[malbaker86]

Drake still sings and that is what makes his music so unique.

The harmonizing on Started from the bottom Is the best part of the song

What you described is not Jeezy getting better, but you stopped disliking his music

No Jeezy has gotten better from album to album. Improved/changed up his flow and somewhat changed up his style once his voice got messed up. He's improved. Every album he's dropped was better than the previous album imo (except 103 wasn't better than The Recession).

I know Drake still sings/harmonzies every now and then, but it isn't as "prominent" as it once was. Even from an artist standpoint, he's gotten better too.

 

[Big Blue]

Drake still sings and that is what makes his music so unique.

The harmonizing on Started from the bottom Is the best part of the song

What you described is not Jeezy getting better, but you stopped disliking his music

There is no harmony on started from the bottom breh. The bridge is unison. Otherwise I agree with you

 

[CrimsonTider]

No Jeezy has gotten better from album to album. Improved/changed up his flow and somewhat changed up his style once his voice got messed up. He's improved. Every album he's dropped was better than the previous album imo (except 103 wasn't better than The Recession).

I know Drake still sings/harmonzies every now and then, but it isn't as "prominent" as it once was. Even from an artist standpoint, he's gotten better too.

102 is Jeezy worse album

And his bars were at their best on Recession

 

[malbaker86]

102 is Jeezy worse album

And his bars were at their best on Recession

Funny cause I really liked 102. I thought that was his 2nd best behind Recession. Actually no, it's his 3rd best behind 101. It's all subjective though