Rappers who came out during the wrong time periods

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Nobody these days lasts long. Most nikkas who blow today are novelty acts, FWIW.

true :ld:
compare hip hop in 2014 to 2009 , not much changed.

The same artists are dominating the Charts, with a few acts that are hot at the moment but you know nobody will talk about them in a year or two.
 
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Her issue is that after her debut she's never aligned herself with the right producers/writers who have her as a priority. If she rocked with the right people - she could've been Aaliyah.

She came out the gate with the correct sound for the time. But could never do that again.


ciara had a bigger run than aaliyah.

but yea, i said it BACK THEN that she shouldnt have parted ways with jazze pha. and then, i was proven right soon after.

i didnt expect her to last longer than she did anyway, unless she sold out and went pop.


I been saying this. Them and Lupe were ahead of their times.
EDIT: But I doubt they would've lasted long. The Cool Kidz were basically novelty act. Even though I thought they were gonna be the next big thing back in High School


if they were actually pushed, the cool kids couldve blew up then, and they still can blow up now in 2015. they fit in well with both time periods and the best thing about them is that they effortlessly cover so many different grounds while simply sticking to their own little script. those guys were money together. trust.

i dont know why people keep listing lupe fiasco. he came out at the absolute perfect time.


Troy ave, dude woulda thrived in the beef DVD Kay slay/clue/envy mixtape era 2001-2005
Nipsey hussle, he would've caught on to a wider audience if he dropped in ~2011, there wasn't momentum in LA back in 09


i kinda like troy ave but he wouldnt have been chit in that era. he doesnt have the talent to compete with those guys. and he probably was indeed running around new york trying to get on back then. right now is the PERFECT time for him.

no offense but there isnt much momentum for LA now either. nippsey hustle has what it takes to blow tho. i said it in '09, and it still rings true to '15. dude can spark an ACTUAL rebirth for LA hip-hop if he were to get on a major and have the right producers. hes the type of guy that outsiders want to hear when they think of the west. not this forced rebirth, im talking bout a LEGIT rebirth. he has IT.

Max came out at the perfect time
in the 90's his non rapping ass would've got no shine
now he'd be overshadowed by all the better singing rappers like Future, Drake, French

smh @ this.

max b is way better than those corny niccas.
 
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Canibus was and still is too complex to this day

his later more conscious minded work goes over so many peoples heads that eventually he just doesn't make sense anymore. It takes too much mental work and countless replays to piece all the metaphors together
 

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Canibus was and still is too complex to this day

his later more conscious minded work goes over so many peoples heads that eventually he just doesn't make sense anymore. It takes too much mental work and countless replays to piece all the metaphors together
I feel like Lupe is kind of the same way

Dumbed down Lupe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thot 97 :dj2:
 

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:heh:

She's had all types of producers who have their names all over big songs... Jazze Pha,Polow Da Don,Pharrell,Dallas Austin,Rodney Jerkins,Dr. Luke,Tricky Stewart etc.... yet she fails to produce big songs.


she shouldve just stuck with jazze pha.

singers that arent strong vocally need to just stick to producers that know their strengths & weaknesses.

its always the same results whenever they stray away. ALWAYS.

Canibus was and still is too complex to this day

his later more conscious minded work goes over so many peoples heads that eventually he just doesn't make sense anymore. It takes too much mental work and countless replays to piece all the metaphors together


cannibus is my man, and arguably a top 10 lyricist ever, but he has no regard for music.

2000 bc is prolly his best album, and i like it, but even with that joint, its like eating a big meaty ass burger with nothing to drink.
 

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lupe came out at the perfect time. i think yall just expect more out of him than what hes worth.

max b getting his props in here. alot of lesser talents running with his chit. but how about another guy that was poppin at that time?
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YUNG LA. dude shouldve blew but grand hustle pretty much low-balled him like they did young dro. tons of rappers have been riding his wave ever since.


ciara had a bigger run than aaliyah.


with that said, and since we're on the topic of r&b singers, i think aaliyah was before her time.

she couldve come closer to the success that noobs think that she had, if she came out 10 years later. cuz it was too much competition in her lane in the '90s, and she laid the over-achievement blueprint down for chicks like ciara.

Nipsey dropped at the right time IMO, but For some reason he just hasn't been able to get over the hump.


its cuz hes indie.
 
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GREAT THREAD.

1 more before i break:

O.B.H. the whole team. ar-ab, lik moss & them.

they would be better off coming out as a crew in the mid-2000s.
 

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cannibus is my man, and arguably a top 10 lyricist ever, but he has no regard for music.

2000 bc is prolly his best album, but even with that joint, its like eating a big meaty ass burger with nothing to drink.
2000 bc is a banger but I think his later work is even better. The more conscious ones like RTJ, FWTBT, Melatonin Magik and C of tranquility are on a whole nother level when it comes to intellectual food
 
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If Q-Tip release Renaissance in 1998 and Amplified in 2008, his career would have a much different trajectory.

Hip-Hop "Fans" selfishness didn't allow him to try a future sound and go big with Amplified, even though it was a pre-cursor to the Neptunes era. When Q-Tip gave those same "fans" what they wanted in the Renaissance, they all no showed.

Damn, this is a good one. The Renaissance was nominated for a Grammy and is sort of a cult classic, though, so I wouldn't say they ALL no showed. I agree with your overall point though.
 

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Lot of rappers in the game had the right product but the wrong timing.... here are some I can think of

Saigon- he had a little wave with his GSNT unreleased album, but he is a classic mid 90s NYC jail nikka who came out during the ATL ringtone era. Back in the 90s when being in and out of prison was cool he probably would have been a legend on the level of Capone N Noreaga or whatever. Plus he wouldn't have been exposed as a confused simp like he was on that reality show he did

Max B- another NYC prison product with more range. I think he could have been the Harlem equivalent to Big Pun, making big hits that a wide range of people could appreciate, along with being able to hold his own with pretty much anybody of those times. "Dey be thinkin Im a Fabio... but Im the type a nikka let the Tommy go :biggapls:"

Camp Lo- I think these brehs were way ahead of their time. I fukks with Camp Lo HEAVY. Uptown Saturday Night is a top 3 rap disc for me. Still sounds relatively fresh today. These brehs had a sharply cultivated image and sound that I think would really have worked in today's 'everything has to be prepackaged and image based' times, but with the added bonus of the brehs actually having the ability to spit and evolve their sound. I could see them keeping NYC more alive than NYC's current crop of young cats

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saigon was the first rapper in mind. to be honest though I dont think he necessarily needed to come out in the 90s.

He was literally a year or two too late. If he coulda dropped during the G-Unit, DBlock, Dipset era he'd be fine but Just Blaze dropped the ball with them label politics. Smh at signing to atlantic.

Another...Freddie Gibbs in my opinion
 
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