Reading up on Wilt, he was that nikka :wow:

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The first post, you came trolling at me. I called you out. You replaced my quote with :troll: and I negged you for trolling. End of story, stop replying to me about this shyt.

No, keep making an ass of yourself, this is entertaining
 

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:russ: It wasnt like he was doing all these feats among elite thoroughbreds. We have different techniques for physical conditioning, diet, dribbling and shooting that make todays superstars Gods compared to that trash in the 60's. Please knock it off and quit.

Bill Russel is overrated as fukk. You clowns bringing him up as an example of stellar athletics is disgusting. You cant use a clown who had shytty offensive to big up wilt. If Bill was around today hed be no better than Rodman but back then, among genetic nobodies he was a God. :skip: Basketball as a game was still in its infancy. They didnt do then what we do today, which is BETTER!

Wilt was a fukkin Giant among ants genetically. Them cacs in the 50s' and 60s were NOT getting rebounds on wilt because he was towering over everyone and had better genes. Today, hed proably put up 30 points. :skip:

Breh, it's on fukking tape. This ain't no folktales like PeeWee Kirkland at Rucker Park. Stop it. That's why I am telling you to quit it. This isn't no well, it happened in the 60's and they couldn't be as good for XnX reason.

Dawg, if a decade or two makes that much of a difference, shouldn't we have PG's today that's better athletes than Jordan? No, you know why, because MJ got God given ability that makes him on another tier than most players in NBA History. That's not going to change because of technique. Besides, Wilt post skill, passing skills out of the post, and repatiore is superior to ANY NBA player in today's NBA. So stop saying well, he played in the 60's. He would have be better than everybody in every era because no one has his skill, size, athletic ability, and BBIQ as a package in sports. The only one that's close is LeBron who is much shorter and no where near as long as Wilt.

The and 60's and 70's wasn't just cacs. Stop underrating the great cacs as well. A lot of them in those eras who were elite would be elite in any era. Remember the saying that Brent and Jon could combine their talent and still would be inferior to Rick Basketball wise. Jerry West was freakishly long and he was a very good athlete who could score at will. You doing too much and don't know what you are talking about. Like I said, don't take it as disrespect because you are my nikka for real but this is out of bounds breh.
 

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what is wrong with my statement that manu will get in the hall of fame over jojo white? lol @ taking that shyt all out of context. manus hall of fame resume >>> jojo whites hall of fame resume. dude retired before i was born, is he in the hall yet? will manu be? discussion over
 

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You do realize that you are talking to a person who rates Wilt higher than most I hope. When you are the biggest and best you are held up to a different standard than most. Right or wrong Wilt had the talent and the numbers to suggest that he should have won more titles. Injuries or not a person sees him and a Jerry West matched up and assume that they should won a title every year. But they don't take into account that he faced a great Celtics team and two great Knicks team. Just look at Shaq. He won 4 titles people still say he didn't win enough. So just imagine the criticism Wilt took for going 2-4 in the finals. No matter the situations perception usually triumphs reality most times.
I'm not discussing perception. I look up facts and I personally couldn't care less what mass-perception is, I'm all about accuracy. If you have questions about Wilt's seasons he played that you assume he should have won based on w/e you've heard, you can discuss it with me, and I'll show you newspapers, excerpts from books/articles or w/e to give you the events that are often never told or known by your typical fan in our modern bball reference era that just like to glance at rosters, listen to the simple popular/journalist narratives, and make broad sweeping generalizations. Like I said I could care less if joe blow thinks Wilt was "surrounded" by talent that "should" have won or w/e it may be. Such narratives are no different than the news stories you typicall hear from Fox. They are told in such a way that leaves out many relevant facts and over-emphasizes others to fit an agenda
 

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The Best Big Man On Each Team In 1962....The Year Wilt Averaged 50.4 ppg

Cincinnati Royals Center......6'8 240lbs Wayne Embry


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Boston Celtics Center....6'10 215lbs Bill Russell


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Syracuse Nationals Center....6'9 230lbs Red Kerr


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St. Louis Hawks Power Forward....6'9 205lbs Bob Pettit



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Los Angeles Lakers Power Forward....6'7 220lbs Rudy LaRusso



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Detroit Pistons Power Forward....6'8 230lbs Bob Ferry


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New York Knicks Power Foward....6'5 200lbs Johnny Green



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Chicago Packers Center....6'11 225lbs Walt Bellamy



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Philadelphia Warriors Center....7'2 300lbs, "50 inch vertical, Superman strength, Ran a 4.6 40-yard dash in dress pants and no shoes" Wilt Chamberlain



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Wilt like :yeshrug: in his picture
 

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Pettit was better than any PF in the NBA today outside of Duncan. Stop disrespecting Pettit and the 60's @Newzz
 
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:snoop: @ this guy that's too bytchmade to ever quote anybody. Playin' the semantics card, Ginobili does NOT have a better resume'/ is not more deservin' for the Hall than JoJo White. If ur gonna say this, back it up w/ facts, prove ur case :ufdup:
 

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what is wrong with my statement that manu will get in the hall of fame over jojo white? lol @ taking that shyt all out of context. manus hall of fame resume >>> jojo whites hall of fame resume. dude retired before i was born, is he in the hall yet? will manu be? discussion over

:rudy: :rudy: :rudy: :rudy: :rudy:

What the fukk did I just quote?

You really think Manu is better than JoJo White?
 

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The Best Big Man On Each Team In 1962....The Year Wilt Averaged 50.4 ppg

Cincinnati Royals Center......6'8 240lbs Wayne Embry


mTX--rHDWdEJGfltaV3-r0w.jpg




Boston Celtics Center....6'10 215lbs Bill Russell


Bill-Russell.jpg




Syracuse Nationals Center....6'9 230lbs Red Kerr


index.php




St. Louis Hawks Power Forward....6'9 205lbs Bob Pettit



bob_pettit_200.jpg





Los Angeles Lakers Power Forward....6'7 220lbs Rudy LaRusso



larusso1pg-vertical.jpg




Detroit Pistons Power Forward....6'8 230lbs Bob Ferry


Hawks_Playoffs_3.jpg




New York Knicks Power Foward....6'5 200lbs Johnny Green



86.%20Johnny%20Green.jpg




Chicago Packers Center....6'11 225lbs Walt Bellamy



waltbellamy_display_image.jpg





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Wayne Embry played as heavy as 280lbs, Bill Russell 240lbs, Walt Bellamy 265lbs, Bob Pettit 240lbs... do you want me to cite all of these? Because I can.

I haven't bothered to look up the other players - but the trend will be the same. You really need to stop looking at bball reference and assuming that's how big those guys were. That's their draft data you fool. And their heights were actually measured accurately back then, unlike today where u have agents penciling in modern players at 1 to 2 inches greater than reality and often times fudging their weight too.

Let's go apples to apples with your sources, Draft data to Draft data shall we? Kobe is only 178lbs and Kevin Garnet is only 217lbs. Tyson Chandler is only 224lbs, Joakim Noah is only 223lbs, and even David "The Admiral" Robinson was a pathetic 226lb 7 footer. That's those players draft weights. You keep pullin this sh* you gonna be the first loser in Coli-History to earn a spot on my ignore list. Coli has a lot of smart basketball fans and I love the discussions here. But clowns like you are messin up a good thing. :ufdup:
 

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I'm not discussing perception. I look up facts and I personally couldn't care less what mass-perception is, I'm all about accuracy. If you have questions about Wilt's seasons he played that you assume he should have won based on w/e you've heard, you can discuss it with me, and I'll show you newspapers, excerpts from books/articles or w/e to give you the events that are often never told or known by your typical fan in our modern bball reference era that just like to glance at rosters, listen to the simple popular/journalist narratives, and make broad sweeping generalizations. Like I said I could care less if joe blow thinks Wilt was "surrounded" by talent that "should" have won or w/e it may be. Such narratives are no different than the news stories you typicall hear from Fox. They are told in such a way that leaves out many relevant facts and over-emphasizes others to fit an agenda

You can look up all he articles you want and do all the research you choose it still doesn't change the fact that Wilt should have won more. I'm a huge advocate for Wilt and I have no problem with saying he should have won at least a couple more titles. Just like if Bron finishes with only two (unless he suffers a major injury) I will say that he should have won more than two. Just because Wilt's numbers are dominant and just because I think he would excel in any era it doesn't exclude him from criticism when it comes to saying he should have won more titles. Just like if Kareem wouldn't have went to LA and if he only won the one title with the Bucks he wouldn't be considered as great as he is. Actually having multiple titles and a winning record in the finals trumps any newspaper or magazine article you can show me.
 
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