Breh even the WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE AND STORYLINES was treated like it was important back then. That should say something. Now it's automatic piss break time.
Real talk: Attitude Era wasn't that good
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Breh even the WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE AND STORYLINES was treated like it was important back then. That should say something. Now it's automatic piss break time.
towards the end it did, but as a whole the women's championship was rather important. but during the ruthless aggression era women's championship was the shyt
JoogJoint
In my own league.
I didn't say there weren't any good matches, that's not my point. My point is that if you wanted to see quality wrestling, the WWE is the wrong place for that. You gotta go to Mexico or Japan for that. That's where the art of wrestling is.
Don't sit there and act like Hogan and the rest of the people you've named were some awesome technical wrestlers. Except of Bret, Shawn Michaels, and Pre-Neck Injury Stone Cold, you have a point.
You also missed one of the best if not THE BEST Macho Man Randy Savage before we even had an Attitude Era.
find me a technical match that created the atmosphere Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior created in Wrestlemania 6 or the magnitude of the storytelling in it
Kevin_Nash
2x WWE Hall of Famer
* Pours 4th glass of red wine *
I was talking about the end of the nWo with Scott and Kid during Wrestlemania weekend, and how fukked up it was in hindsight to have Wolfpac and Hollywood stables. Looking back here's how I would have ended things had I gotten the book a year earlier:
* Starcade 97: Sting beats Hulk clean. No restarting the match, no Bret Hart, nothing.
* Souled Out 98: Hulk gets his rematch but loses to Sting again. Scott and I come out and try to interfere but it backfires
* Superbrawl: Sting beats Scott (who got the title shot via winning WW3). Hulk comes out to interfere but he hits Scott with the belt instead of Sting
* Uncensored: Sting beats Savage in the Main Event with botched Hogan interference again. Myself and Hogan have a confrontation in the ring but Scott and Savage break it up
* Nitro immediately after Uncensored: Battle Royal to determine #1 contender. Last four are Hogan, myself, Dallas, and Bret Hart. Hogan's taking on Hart while I take on Page. I eliminate Page and Hart whips Hogan into me. I get knocked down which leads to me and Hogan brawling. I eliminate Hart and Hogan and become #1 contender
* Following Nitro: Hogan cuts a promo saying the heat of the moment got to him. He's glad a member of the nWo got the title shot and he's eager for me to bring his title back to the nWo. I cut a tweener promo saying it'd be my belt that I'd be bringing to the group I founded with Scott. We get in each others faces with Scott breaking it up. Next couple weeks tension increases between Hogan and myself with Scott as the middleman. He gets us on the same page at the go-home Nitro before the PPV.
* Spring Stampede: Myself and Sting in the Main Event with Scott at ringside. Ref gets bumped, Scott takes a bump from Sting. Hogan comes out, takes Sting's bat and hits me with it. Sting sees Hogan in the ring and takes him out. Sting gets the win.
* Following Night on Nitro: I come out demanding a rematch. Hogan comes out and cuts a promo saying we cost him the belt months ago and feels he deserves a shot. Match is made for me vs. Hogan that night with the nWo surrounding the ring. During the match, ref gets bumped, I'm on the ground, Hogan calls for everyone to come in and beat me down. Everyone gets on the ring apron, but then steps down and walks out on Hulk. He's yelling and disgusted in the ring. I jacknife him and get the win.
* Next Thunder: Scott, Kid and I are in the ring. We cut a promo saying we told other nWo members that to make it in this business, they need to make their own impacts and not be a Hogan lackey.
And Coli members, that's how Big Sexy would have booked the end of the nWo.
* Finishes glass of red wine and places it on table*
* Dislocates elbow, out for 3 weeks *
Kill Dat Noize
Banned
The WWE started it's collision course with the iceberg the moment it became a publicly traded company. Because of that we now have wrestling decisions being made by non wrestling people and it's compromised the product.
Not only that but the bigger emphasis on weekly episodic narrative keeps the current era from ever really fukkin wit the older ones. Yea the Hogan era was more fantasy based but the fed was more billed and presented like it was a real sport.
No....the proper way to have ended the NWO was for a Hogan face turn at some point...it would have had the bigger impact because it actually would have just ended the NWO angle instead of the split off and then finger poke of death
Pinyapplesuckas
He's A Good Man
i love 95, but we all know that was some epic bullshyt hahahah War Games 95 pure hilarity. Any WWF ppv that year pure fukkery. its like watching a really shytty campy movie that doenst realize its not able to be taken serious
@ the thought that any corny 80s it's still real to me dammit shyt being better than the goat ATTITUDE era
Miracle Violence
Animal Instinct
That match is an anomaly though. @BlackBrainChild is right that WWF/E historically isn't a very good wrestling promotion. If you're sifting through old PPVs on the network looking for workrate, you're doing something wrong.
The tail end of Attitude, Ruthless Aggression. and the current era are exceptions to the rule. So really, the last decade and a half of in-ring has overall been much better for WWE than the 80s or 90s ever were.
Lanny Piffo
Pro
All i know is that the attitude era/monday night wars were must see tv. The current product is background noise most of the time.
lets see the record for the highest rated and most watched wrestling program of all time was a saturday night main event some time in the 80's ...you have no idea how engaged the whole country was towards the golden era and the power of Hulkamania
you can have your cheap middle finger pops catch phrases and cursing to get ratings breh...it was a cool time too but to shyt on the 80's your showing your ass has no recollection of it what so ever...
what the fukk is workrate a bunch of fukking rest holds that put people to sleep ...to be honest that style of wrestling was probably at its peak in the cruiser division of WCW and it was excellent wrestling though
and in reality the japanese probably have the best technical matches that mimic shoot fighting
Sincere Noble
Pro
Even the lower card had storylines back then. The lower card belts meant something too, no matter who had them. The belt could go from a guy like the Godfather to Chris Jericho and back and not lose a step. Undertaker was the Hardcore champ at one point. And the AE wasn't that good? Okay.
Thats def. the biggest difference then and now. The Mid-card and lower card atleast got to have storylines, good or bad, atleast they were giving something to do to try and entertain us. Now a days you'll have 2, if we're lucky, storylines going on and thats it. They have like 8 hours of wrestling they can fill each week and we barely get shyt.
I remember there was a time the intercontinental belt meant something it was a stepping stone to the heavyweight title...Razor and Shawn feuds were pushed to mean something with culmination at wrestlemania in a ladder match. Warrior against Rick Rude meant something for that title
Wrestling is a victim of its own success there is just too much of it every week to slow build good feuds they did a great job with D-Bry though ...its why people have tired of a character like Cena's as well
but yeah they need to actually give good storylines to the lower and mid card to have people care about them