Real talk: looking back, most of that def jux/anticon/rhymesayers indie nerd rap was fukking garbage

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From 2000-2003 an epic onslaught of nerdy pretentious elitist white rappers came out of the woodwork and managed to take hip-hop into some of it's worst years ever...

I'm talking about
Sage Francis
Dose One
Anticon
Deep Puddle Dynamics
clouddead
Aesop Rock
MC Paul Barman
Hot Karl

And many others.

I tried listening to their stuff again a couple of weeks ago and just could not do it....

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Anmd Def Jex fell off after 2003...

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right around the time this dropped.
 

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Sage francis has a great discography that I still visit from time to time

One of the most underrated wordsmiths in hip-hop


Who the fukk is hot Karl?
Hot Karl was a 00s era indie white rapper that never got on.

Had some hot tracks produced by 9th Wonder. I thought he was black til I saw his picture...
 

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Some for sure ok, example, for cold vein its worth enduring the above list.
I came to the conclusion EL-P and Cannibal Ox and Cage were the highlights of Def Jex in the 00s.

Fantastic Damage is still one of my favorite albums of all time. Anything El-P produced is fire.
 

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Copywrite ok know him from my brother he only fukk with underground rap,can't call it about the rest of those cats
 

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I don't know if i'd class Copywrite with those guys. He was more of a traditional punchline rapper. Aesop really grew on me over time but yeah, I can easily see why some hate him. I agree with the TS on the rest of those cats being absolute trash though. :scust:Indie heads would really argue with you that Sage Francis is better than Jay-Z with a straight face. The struggle voices:scust:The struggle flows :scust:. As much as we complain about Future/Drate stans etc, those guys are nowhere near as insufferable as the element of underground rap fans who hyped these wack nerd rappers up at that time. Same annoying fans who used to whine about any freestyle not being of the top of the head and hated any gun bars in battles (while themselves hyping the most cliche "you look like" rhymes). I don't know if that sort is still around on other boards, or if they stopped listening to rap altogether, but i'm glad I don't encounter them here.
 
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