Red pill myths debunked

[KidJSoul]

Man red pill not even bout female nature and getting hoes. It’s about purpose, self respect and self improvement in all facets of life. For the YouTube personalities, they’ve seen that their audience doesn’t want to improve, they just want the ability to point fingers…content creators make applicable content.

This Too. This is why I've said that any man who spends too much time watching this redpill stuff (like say, watching it frequently for more than a couple of months) is probably a loser whose looking for like-minded losers to spread misery with.

Any useful advice the redpill offers can be understood in short time. That's why any dude who has actually improved their life with it... rarely goes on the forum.

 

[semicko82]

And there in lies the ignorance, actual red pill isn't about guaranteeing success with women, it's about minimizing failure/wasting time, and bettering/focusing on yourself. If you do those things eventually you can be a lady killer. People joke on AMS, but having a goal/passion/hustle/grind you are dedicated to gives you purpose and makes you more sure of yourself. Most people are terrible with options, because most aren't critical thinkers, therefore having a few things (career, gym, hobby) you dedicate yourself to keeps you occupied and grounded and you worry less about women. Might even meet women who find your career, physique, or hobby interesting or the passion you have for the aforementioned interesting/attractive. Since you actually have better things to be doing, you'll stand firmer with women and be seen as independent man with sense of self as opposed to a man who defines himself by how many broads he gets, which ironically leads to women giving more interest because you aren't vying for your attention.

The entire last paragraph may seem like common sense to some, but common sense ain't that common, and average dudes that grew up without dads, or raised primarily by moms are susceptible to not knowing any of the shyt. So they go out and get finessed/played/etc because they listened to what their mom and society says when you a young/adolescent boy about being sweet to girls and how girls are the fairer sex etc. Redpill doesn't make anyone bitter the bolded does, if anyhting true redpill is supposed to prevent the bolded or help dudes stuck in the bolded get out and reset. But once some experience the bolded then figure out how to actually deal with women they can never trust/believe in women as people because they'll always remember the bolded. That's just human nature more than anything. People don't naturally forgive, that's why the shyt has to be taught via religion, books, tv shows, etc. If people buried the hatchet naturally we'd have very little conflict in society

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[Bossino]

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Ain't nothing gets some tighter than being blamed after people smiled in their face, lied to them and set them up to take an L. Usually people gets hands and feet put on them for that, but when in this sense since its not one person who played you but society, broads, etc, you can't "get them back" so that resentment doesn't get let out and it converts to bitterness/jadedness or on the lighter side of things cynicism.

 

[semicko82]

Agree with most of the post outside of 4, yes women who are attractive date down, but that's usually for resources/security, it ain't about duke. It's about her knowing he'll see her as a prize to be treasured, or knowing there's are lower chance of him cheating vs. her dating a man as attractive or more attractive then her, financial security, etc. But these women often don't desire these men the way they did the more attractive men they fukked previously, but as women age they realize holding on to these in the top 20% is an uphill battle so they choose a sure bet. Though there's a growing amount of women who would just rather be alone than settle

Yup
A majority of average/ugly looking guys can get married, but more than likely they're not even their wife's first pick

 

[Bossino]

Yup
A majority of average/ugly looking guys can get married, but more than likely they're not even their wife's first pick

The truth of the matter is most men can get a relationship, but also most men were't the ideal man for their woman, their woman had to "evolve their requirements" to paraphrase Barry O. For me fukk all that, call it pride, hubris or what have you but I'm not committing to or being with a woman who didn't always have a thing for men of my ilk, or doesn't fukk with me in a vacuum so to speak. She might like my car, the way I live and the jokes I make, but if we don't share world views, if she wouldn't hang out with me just to talk it's a waste of time. Most men don't acknowledge this because they don't want to be alone, and it's a substantial slight to their ego.

To the bolded many aren't their wives 10th pick. The best indicator of what a woman really wants is her past choices is men, but that's why women try to bury the past and tell men their insecure for asking about it. If I'm dealing with a woman and her exes were nothing like me, the relationship is either on borrowed time, or she's come up something serious.

I've ALWAYS wanted a wife, not in the literal legal definition, but a woman who carries herself respectfully, has a level head, down to earth, independent with out constantly patting herself on the back for it, smart. Looks wise not ugly was really my only thing. As I've aged I've gotten into better shape so looks wise I'd need a 6+ but I still feel that's not crazy to ask.

Meanwhile a lot of broads assume they'll end up with tall, dark, handsome, cool, well off, in good shape, good at sex. And they come across those dudes (sex/fwb/flings), but they can't KEEP THEM, because they aren't on that level, and despite asking too much when they eventually scale it back to something more realistic that persisting feeling of "this isn't even what I really want" hence settling remains whether it's active and out-front, or deep seeded and dormant.

The bolded explains a large chunk of divorces in contemporary society, and is why I've always believe most should just die alone, because they refuse to be honest with themselves early enough to not be permanently damaged goods/lost causes

 

[Bossino]

Yea, the issue is that too many "redpill" dudes are weirdos with bad intentions/antisocial traits.

The sad thing is that redpill stuff does technically have value on the surface, but it's presented In a way that can encourage antisocial behavior if the person reading has bad social skills or is antisocial themselves.

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[semicko82]

The truth of the matter is most men can get a relationship, but also most men were't the ideal man for their woman, their woman had to "evolve their requirements" to paraphrase Barry O. For me fukk all that, call it pride, hubris or what have you but I'm not committing to or being with a woman who didn't always have a thing for men of my ilk, or doesn't fukk with me in a vacuum so to speak. She might like my car, the way I live and the jokes I make, but if we don't share world views, if she wouldn't hang out with me just to talk it's a waste of time. Most men don't acknowledge this because they don't want to be alone, and it's a substantial slight to their ego.

To the bolded many aren't their wives 10th pick. The best indicator of what a woman really wants is her past choices is men, but that's why women try to bury the past and tell men their insecure for asking about it. If I'm dealing with a woman and her exes were nothing like me, the relationship is either on borrowed time, or she's come up something serious.

I've ALWAYS wanted a wife, not in the literal legal definition, but a woman who carries herself respectfully, has a level head, down to earth, independent with out constantly patting herself on the back for it, smart. Looks wise not ugly was really my only thing. As I've aged I've gotten into better shape so looks wise I'd need a 6+ but I still feel that's not crazy to ask.

Meanwhile a lot of broads assume they'll end up with tall, dark, handsome, cool, well off, in good shape, good at sex. An they come across those dudes (sex/fwb/flings), but they can't KEEP THEM, because they aren't on that level, and despite asking too much when they eventually scale it back to something more realistic that persisting feeling of "this isn't even what I really want" hence settling remains whether it's active and out-front, or deep seed and dormant.

The bolded explains a large chunk of divorces in contemporary society, and is why I've always believe most should just die alone, because they refuse to be honest with themselves early enough to not be permanently damaged goods/lost causes

 

[semicko82]

Interesting article
The Twisted, Stolen Legacy of the ‘Matrix’ Red Pill

 

[Macallik86]

The ironic thing is that when white people say some crazy shyt like black people are inherently violent we can all see it's racist and stupid, but when these cats say women are inherently <insert negative trait here>, they all nod their heads in agreement.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of toxicity in the avenues that men seek out for advice on dating. I blame it on capitalism more than anything else. Hopefully everyone finds a way that allows them to see the partners they date not as whores and not as princesses but as their equals.

 

[The_Truth]

The truth of the matter is most men can get a relationship, but also most men were't the ideal man for their woman, their woman had to "evolve their requirements" to paraphrase Barry O. For me fukk all that, call it pride, hubris or what have you but I'm not committing to or being with a woman who didn't always have a thing for men of my ilk, or doesn't fukk with me in a vacuum so to speak. She might like my car, the way I live and the jokes I make, but if we don't share world views, if she wouldn't hang out with me just to talk it's a waste of time. Most men don't acknowledge this because they don't want to be alone, and it's a substantial slight to their ego.

To the bolded many aren't their wives 10th pick. The best indicator of what a woman really wants is her past choices is men, but that's why women try to bury the past and tell men their insecure for asking about it. If I'm dealing with a woman and her exes were nothing like me, the relationship is either on borrowed time, or she's come up something serious.

I've ALWAYS wanted a wife, not in the literal legal definition, but a woman who carries herself respectfully, has a level head, down to earth, independent with out constantly patting herself on the back for it, smart. Looks wise not ugly was really my only thing. As I've aged I've gotten into better shape so looks wise I'd need a 6+ but I still feel that's not crazy to ask.

Meanwhile a lot of broads assume they'll end up with tall, dark, handsome, cool, well off, in good shape, good at sex. And they come across those dudes (sex/fwb/flings), but they can't KEEP THEM, because they aren't on that level, and despite asking too much when they eventually scale it back to something more realistic that persisting feeling of "this isn't even what I really want" hence settling remains whether it's active and out-front, or deep seeded and dormant.

The bolded explains a large chunk of divorces in contemporary society, and is why I've always believe most should just die alone, because they refuse to be honest with themselves early enough to not be permanently damaged goods/lost causes

A lot of wives weren't their husbands' first choice either, though. Life is about compromise.

 

[theoretic]

The ironic thing is that when white people say some crazy shyt like black people are inherently violent we can all see it's racist and stupid, but when these cats say women are inherently <insert negative trait here>, they all nod their heads in agreement.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of toxicity in the avenues that men seek out for advice on dating. I blame it on capitalism more than anything else. Hopefully everyone finds a way that allows them to see the partners they date not as whores and not as princesses but as their equals.

I disagree with your conflation of race and sex. Race is mostly a social construct, while there are obvious biological differences between male and female. It isn't necessarily illogical or misogynist/misandrist to state that women/men are inherently more or less X relative to men/women.

That comparison is essentially tacit approval for other groups to attach themselves and their struggles to the Black Agenda©.

 

[Bossino]

A lot of wives weren't their husbands' first choice either, though. Life is about compromise.

I'm aware, the point is realizing if you get something realistic/on your level you didn't settle you reached a good compromise, men particularly in the west seem to recognize and be more comfortable with this than woman, when they do opt for long term monogamy.

 

[semicko82]

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[Macallik86]

I disagree with your conflation of race and sex. Race is mostly a social construct, while there are obvious biological differences between male and female. It isn't necessarily illogical or misogynist/misandrist to state that women/men are inherently more or less X relative to men/women.

That comparison is essentially tacit approval for other groups to attach themselves and their struggles to the Black Agenda©.

Attempting to sound smart doesn't make your point any more correct.


Maybe you'd be less bitter if you weren't a red piller and got laid more

 

[semicko82]

Attempting to sound smart doesn't make your point any more correct.


Maybe you'd be less bitter if you weren't a red piller and got laid more

I think red pill guys get laid more than you think