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Remember when Nas pushed Memphis Bleek shyt in on wax
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Yagirlcheatinonus
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The truth was Nas took you the crown from Jay with Stillmatic by the time God
Son dropped and Nas was touring nonstop and the death of his moms dude just took some time which he needed. He didn’t destroy Rocafella with Ether
. Nas just released that track to Jay he won’t even trying to go at the rest of them. He got the one he wanted which was Jay.
Nas played chess with Jay dude let takeover come out in September and Ether didn’t come out until December. Jay only gave him a verse Nas have him an entire song.
Son dropped and Nas was touring nonstop and the death of his moms dude just took some time which he needed. He didn’t destroy Rocafella with Ether
. Nas just released that track to Jay he won’t even trying to go at the rest of them. He got the one he wanted which was Jay. Nas played chess with Jay dude let takeover come out in September and Ether didn’t come out until December. Jay only gave him a verse Nas have him an entire song.
AnonymityX1000
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It was the beginning of the end.
- Freeway came out went platinum, then what happened? He had to go indie. That's weird having to take an indie deal after going platinum.
- YGz had a couple of good singles. Did their album even come out? Even if it did it was to little to no fanfare
- The album directly after the dis was BP 2 and Jay had to release two versions of it cause he was a bit unsure about the first, second guessing, not confident. Sounds like a change in Jay Z.
- Okay, Beanie dropped a good album, then what happened? After the split between Dame and Jay he wanted to leave.
- Cam blew up around the same time as the beef. Come Home w/ Me was a few months after Ether. Cam and Dame poked their chests out, trying to takeover the ROC around this time because Dame lost faith in Jay and wanted to champion someone else.
- Kanye is the beginning of the new ROC regime after Nas killed the old one. You see Yeezy, he couldn't wait to get Nas on his album. And they worked together a lot during Kanye's rise. Jay eventually followed suit.
"I heard Beanie Siegel say he has guns for me, what Beanie needs is a hug and a stern look in the eye."
that shyt is still hilarious till this day
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What you think of that what you think of that 
P my favorite MC ever but having revisited Da Bridge 2001 recently, holy fukk his verse is ass. Seemed to put zero energy and effort into it.
That QB's Finest project is a perfect example of something being way better in theory than practice.
That QB's Finest project is a perfect example of something being way better in theory than practice.
Wallychamp
Kings Lose Crowns, Teachers Stay Intelligent
Rip the freeway
Shoot thru Mephis with moneybags
Stop in Philly order cheesesteaks and eat beans fast
And bring it back up top, remove the fake king of new york
AnonymityX1000
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Oh no, I love his verse on there it's actually kind of innovative. He slows his flow to a crawl.
Move
Me and my dogs coming through
He killed on Power Rap and Self Conscience though
Move
Me and my dogs coming through
He killed on Power Rap and Self Conscience though
Agreed. Self Conscience probably a top 5 Prodigy joint IMO.
Different strokes for different folks breh but
"we like that snowball going downhill.... we get large"
newworldafro
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It was the beginning of the end.
So you are right, they didn't fall off immediately but the downward trajectory started immediately after. Dame and Jay were inseparable until Ether. Dame lost faith Jay noticed they began to go their separate ways and the rest is history. Ether it burns slow not fast.
- Freeway came out went platinum, then what happened? He had to go indie. That's weird having to take an indie deal after going platinum.
- YGz had a couple of good singles. Did their album even come out? Even if it did it was to little to no fanfare
- The album directly after the dis was BP 2 and Jay had to release two versions of it cause he was a bit unsure about the first, second guessing, not confident. Sounds like a change in Jay Z.
- Okay, Beanie dropped a good album, then what happened? After the split between Dame and Jay he wanted to leave.
- Cam blew up around the same time as the beef. Come Home w/ Me was a few months after Ether. Cam and Dame poked their chests out, trying to takeover the ROC around this time because Dame lost faith in Jay and wanted to champion someone else.
- Kanye is the beginning of the new ROC regime after Nas killed the old one. You see Yeezy, he couldn't wait to get Nas on his album. And they worked together a lot during Kanye's rise. Jay eventually followed suit.
Revisionist history. Roc A Fella was scorching after Ether. Freeway, State Prop Chain Gang, Cam, Dipset, Black Album even the Paid In Full Sdtk got alot of burn 02-03. It was the best run they had as label outside of Jay Z releases.
Different strokes for different folks breh but
"we like that snowball going downhill.... we get large"
Prodigy had a really bad run in that 1999 2001 phase, not every verse, a lot of it worked, but the transition from "Quiet Storm" P, which was all I first knew, to the kind of spoken word thing he had going on by 2001, when he was going at Jay was bizarre, in real time. He just stopped rhyming altogether in some tracks. "Losing Weight" was were I first heard that new style.
"we ain't the Roc, we ain't them fa-----got ass n----"
The Roc lost several steps after Ether, whether that was the main factor or not. Everything started feeling bloated and over the top. A lot of albums were delayed, or never released. Sigel's career derailed, and he didn't release The B. Coming for years after, when the Roc was essentially over. Dip Set pretty much held it down, amid bright spots like State Prop Vol. 2.
Exactly
2001-2003 roc was the most fun I ever had with music.
dudes be making up shyt like a mofo