Remember when the Coli thought Jabari Parker > Julius Randle?

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NBA Real Plus-Minus - National Basketball Association - ESPN is up and running now and this is what @Malta and @Gil Scott-Heroin did NOT want you to see

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Sort it however you want and tell me where Jabari is above Julius



So according to these stats, Julius is better at offense, defense and more helpful when it comes to winning. What a great "5th option" we have here. :mjgrin:

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Except @CantStop was the one to bring that stat up in this thread. You taking shots at @CantStop now? :mjgrin:

Trouble in paradise? :mjgrin:

How can I take a L from a "bullshyt statistic" as you say? :mjgrin:

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Everyone else on the forum be bringing it up, so we can too.


And it's not just real plus/minus that favors Randle, it's every statistic, so we good. What is Parker supposed to have over Randle again? Oh ya he's a 2nd option on a team losing to teams like the Pelicans and the Heat. :mjgrin:
 
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Everyone else on the forum be bringing it up, so we can too.
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You can't disparage a stat and then say it's alright to use when it suits your agenda.
And it's not just real plus/minus that favors Randle, it's every statistic, so we good. What is Parker supposed to have over Randle again? Oh ya he's a 2nd option on a team losing to teams like the Pelicans and the Heat. :mjgrin:
Except it's not. And not only that, but you don't use team-related metrics/stats to compare players who don't have similar roles/workloads on their respective teams. :mjgrin:
 

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You can't disparage a stat and then say it's alright to use when it suits your agenda.

I actually never used it nor brought it up in this thread.

But it says a lot when even the bullshyt stats favor Randle, don't it? As all of them do.


Except it's not. And not only that, but you don't use team-related metrics/stats to compare players who don't have similar roles/workloads on their respective teams. :mjgrin:

What does Parker have left over Randle? Shot attempts? Points per game on a worse efficiency?

If Randle had the same workload as Parker he would be averaging 20/12/6. :wow:

Oh wait that's not true? Oh wait we don't know what each player would be averaging if the situations were switched? Oh ya don't say, well then stop bringing it up as if it's an actual point and not a made up hypothetical on your end. We can judge them from what they're doing now and based on what they're doing now Randle is hands down the better player. :mjpls:
 
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I actually never used it nor brought it up in this thread.

But it says a lot when even the bullshyt stats favor Randle, don't it? As all of them do.
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This doesn't even make one bit of sense. You're drowning.
What does Parker have left over Randle? Shot attempts? Points per game on a worse efficiency?

If Randle had the same workload as Parker he would be averaging 20/12/6. :wow:

Oh wait that's not true? Oh wait we don't know what each player would be averaging if the situations were switched? Oh ya don't say, well then stop bringing it up as if it's an actual point and not a made up hypothetical on your end. We can judge them from what they're doing now and based on what they're doing now Randle is hands down the better player. :mjpls:
This is what happens when you can't break down a player's skillset properly. You judge them on their roles on their respective teams and provide the right context from what they're capable of doing and what they are doing within a team setting. Randle is not the better player. It's as simple as that.

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This doesn't even make one bit of sense. You're drowning.

Motherfukker I'm drowning when Randle's season is better than Parker's. How you continue to deny this is beyond me. Being a shytty 2nd option does not mean you're the better player.

Bucks would be, 100% factually better fukking off if Parker was NOT their 2nd option. If he was their THIRD option, BEHIND Middleton. So keep harping on about Parker being a 2nd option and how that requires more responsibilities as Parker continues to not be a very good 2nd option for his team and they continue to lose games because the mismatches he brings offensively continue to fail to outweigh the consequences of his defense as a 4.
This is what happens when you can't break down a player's skillset properly. You judge them on their roles on their respective teams and provide the right context from what they're capable of doing and what they are doing within a team setting. Randle is not the better player. It's as simple as that.

:manny:

Randle is a better glass crasher, better passer and playmaker, better roll man, and the more efficient scorer.

What is Parker better as? Being the better one on one scorer? That it? Congrats.
 
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Motherfukker I'm drowning when Randle's season is better than Parker's.
Regardless on whether or not he's having a better season, 11-12 games doesn't mean shyt, especially since I can point to this weak ass argument of using surface stats last season when Jabari outperformed Randle (if you look at the box score). How hard is this for you to comprehend? So suddenly just because you think the box score favors Randle now that he's the better player after a dozen games?

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Bucks would be, 100% factually better fukking off if Parker was NOT their 2nd option. If he was their THIRD option, BEHIND Middleton.
Whether this is true or not, still doesn't take away from the fact that Parker has a better skillset to be a 2nd option than Randle does. Fact. This argument doesn't revolve around Middleton and Parker.
So keep harping on about Parker being a 2nd option and how that requires more responsibilities as Parker continues to not be a very good 2nd option for his team and they continue to lose games because the mismatches he brings offensively continue to fail to outweigh the consequences of his defense as a 4.
He's been a good 2nd option for them this season, as he was post-All Star break last season. I suspect that you didn't watch them last season either. The problems this season have stemmed from the offensive production after Giannis/Parker. Again, if you had watched their games you'd see this. Stop trying to force this narrative of him being the cause of losing games because he's the 2nd option when the problem has been the inconsistent supporting cast.
Randle is a better glass crasher, better passer and playmaker, better roll man, and the more efficient scorer.
Again, you're failing to i) use the proper context behind these aspects of play ii) weigh up the impact they have on play. Randle wouldn't average the same amount of rebounds he does now if he played Parker's role on the Bucks. Randle wouldn't be able to handle the ball to show his passing/playmaking as he does now, if he was on the Bucks. You wouldn't be able to say this bullshyt about him being the more efficient scorer if he was on the Bucks either.

How disingenuous do you have to be to say Randle is the more efficent scorer when they don't even take the same type and amount of shots against the same defensive plans/schemes? Randle can be more selective in picking his shots because he's not asked to go out there and be a go-to scorer for the Lakers.

I can tell :umad: just by that post of yours too.
 

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Randle wouldn't average the same amount of rebounds he does now if he played Parker's role on the Bucks.


This is when you know a post isn't worth responding to. Just completely blind hatred of Randle. :wow:
 
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