Remember when they said, Spoelstra is only as good as Lebron makes him?

[Draje]

Can it be Spo has got better?

Are we forgetting how clueless Spo was that first year?

Did we forget Doc Rivers and even Indy's coach giving it to Spo in 2012. It taking LeBron going beast mode to save that team's ass?

Spo has got a helluva lot better though. Great to see a coach improve.

That wasn't bad coaching. That was a freak injury to one of the best players on the Heat and the only actual big man they had plus a crippled Wade who was getting his knee drained after games.

The Heat lost their best big man, against two teams who had a large size advantage and rebounding advantage over them plus had their second best player hobbled around In Wade.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Oh please, stop with the revisionist shyt. I've never seen this guy being called "a great coach"
He wasn't exactly successful before Lebron got there.
Dude was getting clowned in the media (and sohh) and people suggested that maybe Miami should get a new coach when Lebron signed. He was seen as the weak link and there were rumors of Pat Riley coming back again (especially after their terrible start).
His reputation was just of a lucky dude who had 3 stars fall on his lap

This.

Doc Rivers would destroy Spo. Rivers had them out of timeout set plays, while Miami would simply give it to LeBron or Wade and tell em go.

During the regular season Thibs would give Spo major problems.

Indy competed with Miami far more than they should have. fukking Vogel was doing some great coaching in 2012 and 2013 against Miami.

This doesnt mean Spo is not good. But he had a ways to go. Good for him improving.

 

[pimpineasy]

have fun playing that eurotrash Maccabi offense, LeBron

Filipino Jackson >>>>>>>>> israeli Jeff Bzdelik

bring up race to justify your arguments and then be outraged when you are pulled over breh

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

That wasn't bad coaching. That was a freak injury to one of the best players on the Heat and the only actual big man they had plus a crippled Wade who was getting his knee drained after games.

The Heat lost their best big man, against two teams who had a large size advantage and rebounding advantage over them plus had their second best player hobbled around In Wade.

Breh they were facing a Celtics team that went 7 games with the Sixers.

That Indy in 2012 didnt even have Lance and Paul George wasnt as much of a threat as he is today (when healthy obviously)
No doubt Bosh being gone hurt. But Spo had no idea what to do with Bosh those first couple of years anyway. He relied on Shane Battier way too much that series.

He started Dexter fukking Pittman that series.

At the end of the day it was LeBron/Wade not being denied that turned that series around.

I just cant believe people are going to forget Spoelstra's wide eyed look when shyt was going wrong.

Are we going to forget how robotic Spo's coaching style was those first few years of the big 3 era? The lack of creativity, etc.


I admit by 2013 he became a damn good coach.

 

[intruder]

I wish mofos would STOP with this sh!t, already. It's still early in the season at this point. We dont even know how much more of this Wade can give us. We still struggle against big lineups. Lebron and the Cavs were bound to struggle at first until they figure each other out. Hell the Heat started 9-8 in 2010.

As for Spo; As much as some Heat fans hate the guy Ive always been a supporter of the cat. One thing i'll give Spoelstra is he is not affraid to tear down his own system and start over. We've seen him do it when Lebron came in 2010. He did it again after we lost to Dallas in the finals. And he is doing it again this year. Not many coaches are that flexible. I know some Heat fans still on him about weedhead Beasley and some of his substitution patterns but the guys is a good young coach.

 

[boskey]

Spo is the second longest tenured coach in the league to Popovich. His team wasn't gonna just fall apart. If Bron was still on the team but injured for the first 2 weeks of the season would we really be surprised if the Heat still looked pretty good?

 

[ReggieFlare]

BTW Lebron is probably realizing now how underrated Bosh & Wade were (especially on D) during his time in Miami. More importantly they were winners who complimented Lebron perfectly.

Disagree. The reason they are doing so well now is because when LeBron was there they decided to accommodate his style of play, which reduced their effectiveness.

People forget how similar Bron and Wade were before the big 3 formed. Wade took a backseat to Bron and abandoned his natural game for the sake of the team. Bosh was reduced to a stretch 4 to give Bron room to operate.

The real question is, what if Bron decided to adjust his game to the other two?

 

[fifth column]

have fun playing that eurotrash Maccabi offense, LeBron

Filipino Jackson >>>>>>>>> israeli Jeff Bzdelik

I usually dont but

 

[fifth column]

That's what the title says, sure, but this is more a thread about how the grass isn't greener on the other side when clearly we haven't had time to see how green that other-side grass can get. #ReactionaryThread Besides, LBJ's decision wasn't rooted squarely in who had the best team and would give him the best chance to win a championship; it was about him wanting to return home. LBJ leading the Cavs to a chip is >>> him winning 3 more with Miami. Deal with it, nikkas, Bron ain't coming back.

I'm not buying this shyt that Lebron is shoveling. The Spurs got in that ass something serious and Bron felt some type of way.

 

[G-Zeus]

not sure why the heat wouldnt move the ball the same.. its the way they play..

i am just happy they remain a play off team.. never could have predicted shawn william finding a fit with the heat. with mcbob they are a strong squad.

 

[FTBS]

Disagree. The reason they are doing so well now is because when LeBron was there they decided to accommodate his style of play, which reduced their effectiveness.

People forget how similar Bron and Wade were before the big 3 formed. Wade took a backseat to Bron and abandoned his natural game for the sake of the team. Bosh was reduced to a stretch 4 to give Bron room to operate.

The real question is, what if Bron decided to adjust his game to the other two?

Then he'd be called a soft shook bytch...see 2011 Finals. Both dudes had more than enough room to operate while Bron was playing hot potato and he was still giving 18, 7,7. We can't question dude's heart and will to take over AND say dude took over and reduced others to ineffective roles. Fact is injury and straight up ness had more to do with those guys reduced roles that Bron. When Wade was healthy he and Bron gave teams fits on both ends and Bosh wasn't just camped out shooting 3s the whole time.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Spo underachieved when he coached the big 3. They reached half their potential with only winnign 2 titles in 4 tries.

 

[Primetime21]

Spo underachieved when he coached the big 3. They reached half their potential with only winning 2 titles in 4 tries.

It's only so much the coach can do, the players still got to play. Heat ran up on a juggernaut in San Antonio last year, and we all know what happened in 2011.

 

[Jplaya2023]

It's only so much the coach can do, the players still got to play. Heat ran up on a juggernaut in San Antonio last year, and we all know what happened in 2011.

I been killing Spo since SOHH, i always thought he was a product of his players so maybe i'm bias just a bit.

We know Lebron choked in 2011, Spo should've put the ball more in wade's hands since he was still top 3 then. In the 2014 finals he played the same defense that gave up open 3 after open 3 and never made any adjustment at all.

 

[Primetime21]

I been killing Spo since SOHH, i always thought he was a product of his players so maybe i'm bias just a bit.

We know Lebron choked in 2011, Spo should've put the ball more in wade's hands since he was still top 3 then. In the 2014 finals he played the same defense that gave up open 3 after open 3 and never made any adjustment at all.

What adjustment to be made was going to stop the Spurs from winning?