Rep. Omar: Trump's stimulus did more for Americans than Democrats' slimmed-down package

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but if she was critiquing republicans it’d be all good ?

lol y’all want politicians to keep it 100 but they can’t criticize their own party ?

soon as the house lost seats last year they blame the progressives & their snappy slogans .

now that the house is able to actually put in work , you got like idiots like manchin and sinema wanting to fukk around , they should just keep their mouth shut
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Dem leaders warn liberal rhetoric could blow Georgia races
Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her top lieutenants had a stark warning for Democrats on Thursday: Swing too far left and they’re all but certain to blow their chances in the Georgia runoff that will determine which party controls the Senate.

Congressional Democrats are collectively pinning their hopes on a pair of Senate races in January in one of the most competitive states in the nation — an outcome that could determine whether Democrats hold all levers of power in Washington next year, despite a disappointing night on Tuesday. While Joe Biden is looking likely to win the presidency, Democrats were shut out of key Senate races, dashing their hopes of reclaiming control of the chamber, and lost ground in the House despite being expected to significantly expand their majority.

When the next Congress convenes in January, Republicans look favored to carry a narrow majority into the Georgia runoff, with undeclared races in Alaska and North Carolina leaning in their favor. But if Democrats were able to win both Georgia Senate seats — a long shot, to say the least — they would secure control of the chamber with a Biden White House as the tie-breaker.

If “we are going to run on Medicare for All, defund the police, socialized medicine, we're not going to win," House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) warned on the caucus call, according to three people listening.

The Democrats' warning comes as lawmakers try to assign blame over their election night losses, with progressives' ambitions beginning to emerge as a top target that could hinder left-leaning policies from advancing in the House.

Pelosi also had her own message to House Democrats, telling them to focus on an "agenda of lowering health care, better paychecks, building infrastructure.” While she didn’t explicitly say it, those ideas are more likely to be appealing to moderate Georgia voters who will decide the fate of the Senate in January.

The next two months leading up to the Jan. 5 runoff will be “fraught with meaning” Pelosi added.

“This has been a life or death fight for the very fate of our democracy. We did not win every battle, but we did win the war,” Pelosi said on the call. “We held the House. Joe Biden is on a clear path to be the next president of the United States.”

In the hotly contested Georgia races, GOP Sen. David Perdue is expected to face off against Democratic challenger Jon Ossoff and GOP Sen. Kelly Loeffler will take on Democratic candidate Raphael Warnock.


Democrats and Republicans in Congress will likely spend those two months battling over a massive coronavirus stimulus package — which has already divided both parties for months — as well as the presidential transition and a potentially seismic Supreme Court decision on the fate of Obamacare.

The comments from Pelosi and Clyburn echo many private conversations that have taken place among members and top aides in the past 48 hours, with moderate Democrats and even some left-leaning members arguing that GOP attacks on “socialism” and “law and order” cost their party support in Trump country.

The call grew emotional at times as some members who lost their races spoke up, including Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell of Florida, who started crying while urging Democrats to remain unified and not “tweet” attacks at one another. Others were clearly not appeased by Pelosi touting the wins for Democrats on Tuesday night — including Biden’s potential victory — saying that didn’t make up for the disappointment of missing a shot at taking over the Senate and losing at least half a dozen Democratic centrists in the House.

Rep. Abigail Spanberger of Virginia, a Blue Dog whose race remains uncalled though she declared victory this week, grew angry as she warned her party against some of the rhetoric she argued hurt moderate Democrats like herself, saying the election results were a “failure.”

“No one should say ‘defund the police’ ever again,” Spanberger said on the call, according to two sources. “Nobody should be talking about socialism."

Spanberger also warned that if Democrats kept up their tactics in 2022: "We will get f------ torn apart."

Spanberger was one of several battleground Democrats who faced a barrage of GOP attack ads accusing her of attempting to “defund the police” after she voted for a policing reform bill this summer amid a national reckoning over police brutality and systemic racism.




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Pelosi pushed back on Spanberger’s comments, saying Tuesday night wasn’t a failure for Democrats because they kept the House and are likely to oust Donald Trump from the White House.

The California Democrat also instructed members to raise any complaints directly with her.

"I hope any of you who have something to report or feedback will come to me," Pelosi said, before giving out her personal cellphone number.

House Democrats lost seven seats in battleground districts, including in South Carolina, New Mexico and Iowa. Democrats also lost two seats in South Florida, including one that was hardly on their radar, which some Democrats blame on the potency of “socialism” attacks in a Cuban American stronghold.

Rep. Donna Shalala of Florida, who unexpectedly lost her race in Miami, said on the call that she did not blame top Democrats or the campaign arm: “Leadership has been excellent and I have no complaints.”

But Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington, co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, jumped on the call to defend liberal ideas, saying that’s what keeps the Democratic base motivated to turn out and vote.

“If we don't keep these folks engaged … we will lose again in 2024, and we may lose again in the next midterm,” Jayapal told Democrats on the call, according to two people who dialed in.

Jayapal conceded that Democrats need to have “conversations about language” as several members on the call complained about charged terms like “defund the police” repeatedly weaponized against them during the campaign. But, Jayapal said, blaming fellow Democrats isn’t the answer, either.

“I ask my colleagues to quickly jump to not quickly blaming certain people, who incidentally play a part in energizing young people,” she said.


Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan also spoke up, saying fellow Democrats shouldn’t “blame myself and others” for pushing issues that matter to their districts.

Thursday’s more than hourlong call also marked the first time Democrats heard from their campaigns chief, Rep. Cheri Bustos, since House Democrats dropped a net five seats in a cycle in which they expected to flip as many as a dozen.

“I’m furious. Something went wrong here across the entire political world,” Bustos told her colleagues, pointing to polls, turnout models and “prognosticators," according to several sources on the call.

“The voters who turned out look a lot more like 2016 than to what was projected,” Bustos said, adding: “We will do a post mortem."

The Illinois Democrat has come under intense heat from her colleagues after Tuesday night’s results, which left members and their top candidates once again feeling blindsided by the GOP’s strong showing.

It’s still unclear whether Bustos will make a bid to run the caucus’ campaign arm for the next cycle, which several Democrats said she hadn’t necessarily wanted to do even before Tuesday’s election. The name of at least one Democrat, Rep. Tony Cárdenas of California, has so far been floated to run for the post.

Bustos spent much of her time on the caucus call defending the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s decision to try to expand the battlefield, even in a year when they were defending dozens of Trump district seats. She said Democrats had forced GOP campaigns to spend tens of millions of dollars “playing defense,” arguing that the cash diversion helped protect Democratic incumbents by ensuring the money couldn't be spent against them.

Bustos — whose own race was so close that it was not called until Thursday morning — also said her campaign team never gave a specific number of seats it expected to pick up.

“We never called our shot,” Bustos said, adding that Democrats believe they will pick up at least one more seat, with Carolyn Bourdeaux expected to succeed Rep. Rob Woodall in Georgia’s 7th District. Democrats also picked up two seats in North Carolina, which went their way after the most recent round of redistricting.

"We built a massive battlefield that could put the candidates you help us recruit in position to ride a wave. At the same time, it could shelter our most vulnerable members during a storm," Bustos said, according to sources on the call.
 

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You keep trying to make it about being scared or bytchmade but its not a smart move to begin with. Its a very simple equation. If 75million people are voting for party X, then you will need the same level of voting for party Y if you want to beat them. Politics isn’t a game for meat heads. You have to use your brain.

You’re acting like losing elections doesn’t have drastic consequences. Nobody is even paying attention to what is going on right now in state legislatures across the country:

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It is about being bytchmade because people have become resigned to the fact that it's either a two party system with no other options out there.

I understand what you're saying, but if you aren't a Democrat or Republican then you have no shot whatsoever of winning a meaningful election. You can mention the word progressive, moderate or any other name. The only thing that matters is the D or the R that you have next to your name for party affiliation.
 

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Okay,.....
Now we have the presidency.
Why is every politician not put under surveillance afyer trump to authenicate they are not apart of s coup. That would straighten out all this failure in government. to help american people under rral duress.


This country is broke and needs to be reauthenicated and reoriented.

All this act like everything is normal shyt needs to be dead. Put every politician under the microscope.


Art Barr
 

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The fact that the $2000 check is even an arguing point is case and point of Democratic in-fighting.

HAVE. ONE. MESSAGE.

Because Joe literally NEVER said he'd be down for blanket $2k checks. That was Bernie, Schumer and others. But what Congressional Dems shoulda did (including Joe Mancin) was shut the fukk up and pass the stimmy. No arguments, no rhetoric, no nothing...pass it.

To be honest, the entire discourse around stimmys was muddied up by the far left. And I'm a supporter of more leftist policies in America. But its bad POLITICS.
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Her logic isn't bad, and she has increased minimum wage as a governor.


All this does is echo the alleged GOP concerns and the concern of most American small biz owners...
But you have dems all over the internet saying fukk small biz and they shouldn't have a biz if they cant pay it

So which one is it?
 

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cant believe yall are arguing about 2k ... blaming people .... crying and saying it was trumps idea

when the entire world has been getting those checks for over a year now .... America really aint shyt logically

remember they got discord agents on these websites to maintain the chaos
if you pay attention, its easy to see exactly when that infiltration and disinformation began :mjpls:
nikkas really trying to convince you to love a party that hung black people last year, threw paper towels at dead puerto ricans, told you black lives were a communist plot and in the way of a "functioning society" laundered more money than we are talking about losing in here....over an incomplete wall. Say a global pandemic aint real, while getting half a million killed... then doing a press conference when they get it... rush to the hospital and use your tax dollars on the top of the line hospitalization. Fumble all relations, lift the ban from Iran nuclear protcol...daring them to do something. Murdering the general with a drone then saying "They wouldnt let me kill the president" :sas1: Promote white supremacy and let conspiracy theory people fill their ranks, ones that think the earth is flat and JFK jr speaks through Donald Trump :bryan:give the signal to white trash civilians to unleash hell on whoever asap just because they arent getting their way. All to murder black people like slaves again in the street with absolutely no justice



but we got c00ns and people who should be shot in the head on site, in here like
"but 400$ ... I dont understand the allocation of money or budget and I dont understand that we can always increase or extend payment if need be"

I 100% wish this website didnt make black people look as stupid as they treat us
 
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cant believe yall are arguing about 2k ... blaming people .... crying and saying it was trumps idea

when the entire world has been getting those checks for over a year now .... America really aint shyt logically

remember they got discord agents on these websites to maintain the chaos

That's likely what happened to @G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman as he disappeared after Biden won the election.
 

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and that’s the main difference between Republicans and Democrats. You have nikkas in here on some “blame republicans,atleast we tried :mjcry:“ shyt ..

nikka no

When Republicans didn’t get shyt done their voters don’t be on some woe is me blame the other side shyt . They vote them nikkas out and put people in power that’s gonna do all the crazy shyt they want. shyt got so hot for John Boehner he resigned :dead: and that was before Trump .We would NEVER hold Pelosi’s feet to the fire like that and that’s the problem . We soft as hell out here
Like they voted Mitch McConnell out for not doing shyt for them? And Lindsay Graham? Oh wait....
 
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I get her point but the circumstances is bit different. In March we wanted no one to work so you had to pay people over their current pay to stay home, right now most on both sides would like to get back to normal with job growth. I think 400 a week would have been fine.
 

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The average voter isn't nuanced in their thinking enough to see this. And that's why Dems fumbling on this is so dangerous. American voters (esp. Democratic leaning voters) are fickle as hell and need to be inspired to get off their ass and vote. Besides voting out Trump, 2k checks and the $15 minimum wage increase was a major inspiration for many people to come out and vote. I honestly don't see how this wont translate into Democrats getting completely destroyed in 2022.
So this week we get a Stimulus bill passed which will give checks and extend enhanced unemployment benefits, and also the vaccine rollout has been moved up to May. That to coli republicans = Dems will get washed in 2022. :russ:
 
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