Discussion in 'The Locker Room' started by Da King, Mar 5, 2021.
Dems really about to fumble having the house and the senate and presidency AGAIN
He’s still not considered a Republican according to members of his own party. There a 4+ parties in the current political system. Unfortunately, you have to be labeled as a Democrat or Republican to even have a fair chance of winning an election race.
Because it’s members of the Democratic bill are holding up the tie breaker. You can bytch and complain about Manchin and other Democrats, but their votes are still need in order for Harris vote to be in play.
I'll have to respectfully disagree again with the black and white assertion due the letter behind his name because there are obvious nuances to this situation given his voting history and how he campaigns to win over voters in west virginia. Again, Dems are not a monolith because if they were he'd be like elizabeth warren and we would not have to worry about him stonewalling the bill and appeasing him to get something passed.
As for trump, he may not have been the typical republican politician but he he absolutely the typical republican low info voter.
Moderate "Democrats" wouldn't even be an issue if this bill had even a little Republican support. It has ZERO. Right now she should be publicly calling Republicans out and deal with those moderates in her party after the bill is passed. Dems can't stay on code and that's one of the main reasons they ass be getting kicked by a party that's usually on the wrong side of issues.
At the end of the day, if you’re not labeled as a Democrat or Republican then you have no chance of winning any election. That’s just how it us. There are other parties in the political climate, but they have no other choice but to be labeled as Democrat or Republicans.
Democrats don't know how and/or don't want to use their power. Mixture of both.
Everybody knew that Republicans weren’t going to vote yes on the bill beforehand. That’s where the 50-50 tie breaker was supposed to come into play.
People made the false assumption that Manchin would be the only Democrat problem and now you see that’s not the case.
I agree. I have zero idea what the disagreement is about. $600 in early January after months of bullshyt doesn't mean shyt in the middle of March. Nobody was waiting to combine that $600 from January with $1400 in March. That shyt is not logical in this country. $2000 is $2000. $2000 isn't $600 here and $1400 hear after talking about $2000 checks.
shyts a game. Smoke and mirrors.
Every Dem should be roasting Republicans at every chance they can right now for unanimously not supporting this bill. For the last few days there's basically been Republicans saying to Americans face that they shouldn't be getting shyt. And of course instead of using that against Republicans we have Dems publicly blaming Dems. shyt is crazy how they operate.
Bro, is your overall argument against the two party system? If so we are in agreement and I think the dumbass electoral college keeps us in a 2 party system on a national level.
But that is really outside the scope of the conversation of why the bill was changed. This is the current situation that we're in and the explanation for why this happened can be attributed to one person, joe manchin.
Who is the other Democrat problem?
I think it's about people seeing bullshyt the thugs be on and wondering why Dems don't smack them around when they have power.
nikka this ain't fight club. Dude is a blue dog democrat, voted in by dumb ass West Virgians. Blame them, not the fukking democrats.
Which again Joe Manchin is labeled as a Democrat even with his Republican-like tendencies. If Democrats go after him, then they’d essentially be going against and putting a future seat that they need at play.
The only thing people will care about Manchin is which of the two party systems letter is next to his name on the ballot.