Republicans out here taking ya'lls overtime pay.

[Pressure]

actually that is NOT true at all.
Many people choose the time rather than pay
They don't get taxed more on the time off, and they get the time equivalent to OT (1.5X)

I don't see how this is a big deal. Anyone that works in a place that currently does this has no problems with that type of flexibility.

Because in current scenarios it's up to the employee to decide not the employer. Similarly, many times this is for workers who make a lot of money.

This is a death sentence for many low skilled, low pay wage workers who depend on overtime pay to make their ends meet while living paycheck to paycheck.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Because in current scenarios it's up to the employee to decide not the employer. Similarly, many times this is for workers who make a lot of money.

This is a death sentence for many low skilled, low pay wage workers who depend on overtime pay to make their ends meet while living paycheck to paycheck.

So what you are saying is that you DIDN'T read the bill and are only going off what some article said?



Text - H.R.1180 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Working Families Flexibility Act of 2017

“(2) CONDITIONS.—An employer may provide compensatory time to employees under paragraph (1) only if such time is provided in accordance with—
“(A) applicable provisions of a collective bargaining agreement between the employer and the labor organization that has been certified or recognized as the representative of the employees under applicable law; or



“(B) in the case of an employee who is not represented by a labor organization that has been certified or recognized as the representative of such employee under applicable law, an agreement arrived at between the employer and employee before the performance of the work and affirmed by a written or otherwise verifiable record maintained in accordance with section 11(c)—
“(i) in which the employer has offered and the employee has chosen to receive compensatory time in lieu of monetary overtime compensation; and
“(ii) entered into knowingly and voluntarily by such employee and not as a condition of employment.



“(4) PRIVATE EMPLOYER ACTIONS.—An employer that provides compensatory time under paragraph (1) to an employee shall not directly or indirectly intimidate, threaten, or coerce or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any employee for the purpose of—
“(A) interfering with such employee’s rights under this subsection to request or not request compensatory time off in lieu of payment of monetary overtime compensation for overtime hours; or
“(B) requiring any employee to use such compensatory time.




I wish for once you dudes would take the time to actually read up on the shyt you complain about before ranting and raving just because you hate the party that presents something.

grow up.

 

[Pressure]

So what you are saying is that you DIDN'T read the bill and are only going off what some article said?



Text - H.R.1180 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Working Families Flexibility Act of 2017

“(2) CONDITIONS.—An employer may provide compensatory time to employees under paragraph (1) only if such time is provided in accordance with—
“(A) applicable provisions of a collective bargaining agreement between the employer and the labor organization that has been certified or recognized as the representative of the employees under applicable law; or



“(B) in the case of an employee who is not represented by a labor organization that has been certified or recognized as the representative of such employee under applicable law, an agreement arrived at between the employer and employee before the performance of the work and affirmed by a written or otherwise verifiable record maintained in accordance with section 11(c)—
“(i) in which the employer has offered and the employee has chosen to receive compensatory time in lieu of monetary overtime compensation; and
“(ii) entered into knowingly and voluntarily by such employee and not as a condition of employment.



“(4) PRIVATE EMPLOYER ACTIONS.—An employer that provides compensatory time under paragraph (1) to an employee shall not directly or indirectly intimidate, threaten, or coerce or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any employee for the purpose of—
“(A) interfering with such employee’s rights under this subsection to request or not request compensatory time off in lieu of payment of monetary overtime compensation for overtime hours; or
“(B) requiring any employee to use such compensatory time.




I wish for once you dudes would take the time to actually read up on the shyt you complain about before ranting and raving just because you hate the party that presents something.

grow up.

You either

A.) Didn't read the entire bill
B.) Have trouble comprehending the language
C.) failed to apply A and B to applicable situations.
D.) wanted to prove you were right so bad you didn't address what you quoted.
E.) All of the above.


You've completely ignored the time lines for disbursement. Which highly effects low wage workers and said, well see, they'll get paid so it doesn't matter.

You've ignored what happens when a business goes out as a result of those timelines.

You've ignored that paying workers the money upfront they can take off the same amount of time, but with more money on hand.

You've failed to answer how this helps people living paycheck to paycheck have money RIGHT NOW.

stop trying to be a contrarian at all times.

 

[Serious]

if the republicans hit the paychecks of their voters, and fukk their tax returns next year, then the dems should sweep the midterms

not that i want to underestimate the racism and willful ignorance of their base :scustrump:

Breh you live in a pretty "hateful" state, you should be able feel the settlement of how people around you feel and what direction they're leaning towards.

 

[Maschine_Man]

You either

A.) Didn't read the entire bill
B.) Have trouble comprehending the language
C.) failed to apply A and B to applicable situations.
D.) wanted to prove you were right so bad you didn't address what you quoted.
E.) All of the above.


You've completely ignored the time lines for disbursement. Which highly effects low wage workers and said, well see, they'll get paid so it doesn't matter.

You've ignored what happens when a business goes out as a result of those timelines.

You've ignored that paying workers the money upfront they can take off the same amount of time, but with more money on hand.

You've failed to answer how this helps people living paycheck to paycheck have money RIGHT NOW.

stop trying to be a contrarian at all times.

LOL, you serious bruh?

I'M the contrarian?

go read the bill and come back here...it isn't that long, and I actually posted the link.

First off, the employee HAS to agree to it, and they can be in NO WAY punished for their decision.

So tell me in what way will this hurt anyone that doesn't want it?


1. Time off work, to MANY people is just as important if not more important than getting that extra pay.
2. People that rely on OT pay still have that option as well. NO employer can force an employee to take the time in lieu.
3. go read the fukking bill and come back when you want to start thinking objectively about things and not just want to complain about things because of who put out the bill.

like bruh, I posted HALF the fukking bill in my post. and you didn't even bother to read it or address it.

stop shilling and start thinking for yourself.

 

[Serious]

You either

A.) Didn't read the entire bill
B.) Have trouble comprehending the language
C.) failed to apply A and B to applicable situations.
D.) wanted to prove you were right so bad you didn't address what you quoted.
E.) All of the above.


You've completely ignored the time lines for disbursement. Which highly effects low wage workers and said, well see, they'll get paid so it doesn't matter.

You've ignored what happens when a business goes out as a result of those timelines.

You've ignored that paying workers the money upfront they can take off the same amount of time, but with more money on hand.

You've failed to answer how this helps people living paycheck to paycheck have money RIGHT NOW.

stop trying to be a contrarian at all times.

you must be talking to someone I have on ignore again.

 

[Maschine_Man]

you must be talking to someone I have on ignore again.

the irony...

 

[the cac mamba]

Breh you live in a pretty "hateful" state, you should be able feel the settlement of how people around you feel and what direction they're leaning towards.

this state voted hillary

i know there's a lotta scum in boston, but its not exactly alabama up here

 

[Serious]

this state voted hillary

i know there's a lotta scum in boston, but its not exactly alabama up here

I thought you were in kentucky

 

[Pressure]

LOL, you serious bruh?


1. Time off work, to MANY people is just as important if not more important than getting that extra pay.
2. People that rely on OT pay still have that option as well. NO employer can force an employee to take the time in lieu.
3. go read the fukking bill and come back when you want to start thinking objectively about things and not just want to complain about things because of who put out the bill.

like bruh, I posted HALF the fukking bill in my post. and you didn't even bother to read it or address it.

stop shilling and start thinking for yourself.

Breh, Ive acknowledged reading the actual bill on one of my first posts.

No employee may receive or agree to receive compensatory time
off under this subsection unless the employee has worked at
least 1,000 hours for the employee's employer during a period
of continuous employment with the employer in the 12-month
period before the date of agreement or receipt of compensatory
time off.
``(3) Hour limit.--
``(A) Maximum hours.--An employee may accrue not more
than 160 hours of compensatory time.
``(B) Compensation date.--Not later than January 31
of each calendar year, the employee's employer shall
provide monetary compensation for any unused
compensatory time off accrued during the preceding
calendar year that was not used prior to December 31 of
the preceding year at the rate prescribed by paragraph
(6). An employer may designate and communicate to the
employer's employees a 12-month period other than the
calendar year, in which case such compensation shall be
provided not later than 31 days after the end of such
12-month period.
``(C) Excess of 80 hours.--The employer may provide
monetary compensation for an employee's unused
compensatory time in excess of 80 hours at any time
after giving the employee at least 30 days notice. Such
compensation shall be provided at the rate prescribed
by paragraph (6).
``(D) Policy.--Except where a collective bargaining
agreement provides otherwise, an employer that has
adopted a policy offering compensatory time to
employees may discontinue such policy upon giving
employees 30 days notice.
``(E) Written request.--An employee may withdraw an
agreement described in paragraph (2)(B) at any time. An
employee may also request in writing that monetary
compensation be provided, at any time, for all
compensatory time accrued that has not yet been used.
Within 30 days of receiving the written request, the
employer shall provide the employee the monetary
compensation due in accordance with paragraph (6).
``(4) Private employer actions.--An employer that provides
compensatory time under paragraph (1) to an employee shall not
directly or indirectly intimidate, threaten, or coerce or
attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any employee for the
purpose of--
``(A) interfering with such employee's rights under
this subsection to request or not request compensatory
time off in lieu of payment of monetary overtime
compensation for overtime hours; or
``(B) requiring any employee to use such compensatory
time.
``(5) Termination of employment.--An employee who has accrued
compensatory time off authorized to be provided under paragraph
(1) shall, upon the voluntary or involuntary termination of
employment, be paid for the unused compensatory time in
accordance with paragraph (6).
``(6) Rate of compensation.--
``(A) General rule.--If compensation is to be paid to
an employee for accrued compensatory time off, such
compensation shall be paid at a rate of compensation
not less than--
``(i) the regular rate earned by such
employee when the compensatory time was
accrued; or
``(ii) the regular rate earned by such
employee at the time such employee received
payment of such compensation,
whichever is higher.
``(B) Consideration of payment.--Any payment owed to
an employee under this subsection for unused
compensatory time shall be considered unpaid overtime
compensation.
``(7) Use of time.--An employee--
``(A) who has accrued compensatory time off
authorized to be provided under paragraph (1); and
``(B) who has requested the use of such compensatory
time,
shall be permitted by the employee's employer to use such time
within a reasonable period after making the request if the use
of the compensatory time does not unduly disrupt the operations
of the employer.
``(8) Definitions.--For purposes of this subsection--
``(A) the term `employee' does not include an
employee of a public agency; and
``(B) the terms `overtime compensation' and
`compensatory time' shall have the meanings given such
terms by subsection (o)(7).''

We've been complaining about the bolded. All of the things you chose not to quote is where we have said is detrimental to the employee.

 

[the cac mamba]

I thought you were in kentucky

shot in the dark but i think thats @Sensitive Blake Griffin :deadjay:

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

I thought you were in kentucky

Nah that's the other cac on this forum, me.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Breh, Ive acknowledged reading the actual bill on one of my first posts.



We've been complaining about the bolded. All of the things you chose not to quote is where we have said is detrimental to the employee.

you shouldn't be complaining about anything, cuz as you have surely read, the employee has to agree to any time in lieu. the employer CAN'T force the employee to take the time over the money. what is there to complain about? employees have the option. it's their choice. I thought you fukking liberals were all about pro-choice and shyt?

so again, stop wasting your time complaining about nothing and come with some real shyt. You looking a lot like ANTIFA out here, complaining about nothing, but just trying to get heard.

so just accept that this bill isn't as bad as you are making it out to be. get off your high horse and start being objective (yet again)

 

[Pressure]

Pink,

Think about it like this. Deborah opts to get paid time off knowing her husband will have surgery or that spring break is coming up. She submits her request a month ahead to make sure the company is aware. On the day before surgery, the employer tells Deborah her request has been denied because it would put undue strain on the company.

Deborah has a two choices. Go to work. Or get fired. If she gets fired, she won't see that accrued time for at least a month.

How is this benefiting her?

 

[el_oh_el]

Republicans introduce outrageous bills all the time. Do we really see this passing?